User talk:NaturalAbundance

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Hello, NaturalAbundance. Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions! I'm Paine Ellsworth, one of the other editors here, and I hope you decide to stay and help contribute to this amazing repository of knowledge. Alternatively, leave me a message at my talk page or type  here on your talk page, and someone will try to help. Remember to always sign your posts on talk pages. You can do this either by clicking on the button on the edit toolbar or by typing four tildes   at the end of your post. This will automatically insert your signature, a link to this (your talk) page, and a timestamp. The best way to learn about something is to experience it. Explore, learn, contribute, and don't forget to have some fun! To get some practice editing you can use a sandbox. You can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Mypage/sandbox&action=edit&preload=Template:User_Sandbox/preload create your own private sandbox] for use any time. Perfect for working on bigger projects. Then for easy access in the future, you can put  on your userpage.

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Redirects
While some of the redirects you have created appear to stand a reasonable chance of being useful to someone some time, several of them are not evidently likely to be very useful. I suggest thinking carefully before creating any redirect, and considering whether it is actually sufficiently likely to be used to really be worth having. Some of them are pretty certain never to be any use to anyone: for example, if anyone were to come to Wikipedia and start typing "Georges Mareschal, seigneur de Bièvre" into the search box, before they even finished typing the first two words the software would present them with a link to the the obvious article Georges Mareschal, so there is absoultely nothing gained by having a redirect from "Georges Mareschal, seigneur de Bièvre". The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:44, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

That is understandable, but many other pages have huge redirects that I didn't create. I have, many times, typed something and wasn't able to find it because it had a different name. I am just taking full names, title, spellings, and misspellings and turning them into redirects for everyone who may not type the right name. Thanks again for your suggestions JamesBWatson NaturalAbundance (talk) 16:54, 16 November 2016 (UTC)


 * You really don't need to do that. In fact, creating a redirect for every conceivable spelling or salutation (as you're doing with John Archibald Venn), has been seen in the past as disruptive. Typing those into the search box may not immediately bring up the article, but clicking Search surely will. Having too many redirects popping up when typing can actually confuse people even if they ultimately lead to the same place. Crow  Caw  17:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

I am in no way trying to be disruptive. I many times, have typed something in and never found it because of the way the particular article was worded. A redirect would've helped me immensely and I am just trying to do that for others. NaturalAbundance (talk) 18:19, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Just to add, please don't create double redirects like you did with this edit. I appreciate that non-English misspellings are a perennial problem but if you create the redirect lease point straight to the full article not a redirect that is the correct spelling. Nthep (talk) 19:03, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I go so fast that I may make a mistake or two. NaturalAbundance (talk) 19:04, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Spathaceum


The article Spathaceum has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Incorrectly identified. In the names listed, spathaceum is the name of the species, not the genus.  Unreferenced.

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A page you started (Spathaceum) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating Spathaceum, NaturalAbundance!

Wikipedia editor Animalparty just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

"Note that these entries are partial title matches, and are almost never referred to as simply 'spathaceum'. A better option might be a redirect to the Common species names list. See User:Oiyarbepsy/Species abbreviation for more."

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==Speedy deletion nomination of Malvern The Original English Natural Mineral Water. Naturally filtered through Pre-Cambrian granite and sourced from deep beneath the Malvern Hills==

A tag has been placed on Malvern The Original English Natural Mineral Water. Naturally filtered through Pre-Cambrian granite and sourced from deep beneath the Malvern Hills requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

pointless redirect page

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Redirects again
Hello, just another caution or 2 on redirects. You make a lot of them, some quite useful, and others less so. Redirects for every conceivable spelling/capitalization combo are not particularly useful as our search engine isn't case-sensitive, and the use of "nofollow" means it doesn't help google to locate the target. As a general rule, if the "What Links Here" link for any page is Zero, then a spelling/caps redirect probably isn't useful. Same sort of goes for Middle names, if the person isn't commonly referred to like that (c.f. Hillary Rodham Clinton, etc). And lastly, you need to keep in mind that we have a worldwide audience so links like $100 dollar bill pointing to the US note disregards other countries with similar notes. That one would better be a disambiguation, which you've also done many of, and which I find quite useful.

You mentioned above that you go so fast you make mistakes, well that should be an indication to slow down! There's no rush, honest! Thanks for your work! Crow Caw  22:31, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I will take your advice and try a new approach. I thank you again for you constructive words. NaturalAbundance (talk) 23:17, 29 November 2016 (UTC)


 * So... why this: Kodak black? Zero hits on "What Links Here", and as mentioned above the search here doesn't care about case. So what's the point? Crow  Caw  00:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Because usually, people wouldn't take the time to capitalize both names. Just the first one. NaturalAbundance (talk) 03:32, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Point is, it doesn't matter! Take today's featured article. If you type  in the search bar and hit enter, it takes you to the page. There's no redirect for that, it just works. Making a redirect to handle something that the software already handles is utterly pointless.  Crow  Caw  15:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)