User talk:Navnløs/Archive 13

Jeremiah 2:20: "a saeculo confregisti iugum meum  rupisti vincula mea et dixisti non serviam in omni enim colle  sublimi et sub omni ligno frondoso tu prosternebaris meretrix."  - Light-Bringer
 * I'm fed up with wikipedia's hypocrites always talking about POV while instituting their own.
 * User:Navnløs/Reply to accusations from User:Twsx
 * Hilariousness: #1 #2
 * Revert the Reverted Edit!
 * Kill the white rabbit before it kills you. - Morbid Saint

Haven't gotten on this account in forever. Not that anyone cares.
Mostly do some very very small edits on an anon every now and then. Mostly spelling/grammar errors and the such. I have new addictions. Working with some bands. Enjoying friends. Still working like crazy and doing school. Hanging out with my amazing gal. Not that anyone cares. I just wanted to give an update. At this point it looks like I may very well not come back. Ever. But you never know. I might go through some wiki-binges.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 17:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, and I saw Rotting Christ!
Beat that. They ruled. The guys from the band were hella laid back, too, and were going around talking to people and whatnot. They had super thick Greek accents.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 18:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Same to you, buddy!
Fart.



Alternative counter
I noticed on User talk:Interiot that you were experiencing the same problems with the edit counter as I was. I've located another edit counter that you may want to try. Best regards --Eustress (talk) 03:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about that!  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 16:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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Metal articles
... just aren't the same, knowing you're watchfull eye is absent. 86.46.214.214 (talk) 15:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure if that's sarcasm or not. I'll assume it isn't and, if that is the case, thank you very much.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 16:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sarcasm, man. Will you ever edit wikipedia again, like as much as you used to?86.46.214.195 (talk) 17:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the late response, but I don't ever really get on anymore. I use anons, though, every now and then and edit through those. To answer your question, though, I don't believe I will. Even if wikipedia or the users on it never upset me again, I still have way too much to deal with in my life. Trying to come up with rent evert month is a big thing right now. But I have a school and work and all manner of projects to deal with. Not to mention when I did tons and tons of editing during that one period in the past, I didn't have a girlfriend. I'm curious to know, though, if I know you or not. Are you just some user I've never talked to before or not?  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 04:58, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You might remember me. I left to edit pages anonymously as well though, after causing a shitstorm with another user.  But yeah, this place get's worse every day with shitty users with their own agendas.  You were seriously one of the few users who I believe spoke their mind and didn't bullshit others, even if you were a bit abrasive, I'd rather that than some idiot user/mod repeating rules verbatim like one of the damnable bots. I don't suppose you edit Metal Archives at all?86.46.197.149 (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Wow, well I really appreciate your kind words. I think I was more abrasive in the beginning. I tried harder to work with others more over time. I agree with what you're saying about the rules. I mean, they're obviously there for a good reason and I do believe they work a good deal of the time, but some amount of flexibility and ammending from time to time should be allowed. Discussion is important. Although a lot of times you end up trying to have an intelligent conversation with someone who is a complete idiot. No I don't really edit metal archives. I use that site (among others) from time to time as a research tool to discover new bands or look up an album, etc. I've edited it a few times when I saw an error or something, but that's it.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 17:52, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Adding a new article.
I'm not back. I don't think I ever truly will be. But I'm gonna add some new articles in the near future of things that aren't on wikipedia and I might make some other edits. We'll see.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 16:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Elysian Blaze
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 * OMF. Dicks! I just made that article earlier today and I specifically said I would add more info in the edit summary at some point soon! Goddamn. Impatient sons of bitches.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 04:17, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sweet joyous vindication
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Wiki_libs/Archive

Smells like success.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 08:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh geez
Guess who? Yeah, that's right. Rory. Look who left. Rory  Re  loaded  10:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Howdy
Here is some news: I have been the lawyer for my former Floridian client's Estate (including the catalogues of both of his former bands) since September. This deceased genre innovator's sister/mother contacted me to make it happen, in a sort of karmic whirlwind. I am floating on air, it is so cool. Anyway, hope you've been OK and that the health is on track. ;) A Sniper (talk) 11:35, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess someone needs to say that you are quite the intelligent young guy. I appreciate your support and will do the same.


 * Yes, all of the stuff I'm doing lately (in the real world) is quite exciting for me. Just this morning, The master disc & artwork for The Sound of Perseverance arrived at my door, sent from Germany via FedEx. I have to pinch myself. Talk to you soon... A Sniper (talk) 03:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

What Judaism is
Navnlos, Judaism is not exactly a religion. See, for example, Humanistic Judaism which is nontheistic. "A system of beliefs and practices," as was in the article before, is probably a better description of what Judaism is. In my country, a plurality of Jews are agnostic or atheist. Many are still involved in the practices of Judaism and go to synagogue, where they acknowledge the Jewish beliefs and pray. Judaism isn't quite the same as Christianity or Islam in that respect. --AFriedman (talk) 02:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand what you are getting at. But what you are talking about is Judaism as an ethnicity, which is a different article. The Judaism article we are editing is about the religion. The evidence is on the Judaism talk page. I'm really not changing a single thing about the article.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 02:42, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Judaism
I saw on another user's page you wrote, "I get their argument that Judaism is a religion AND ethnicity." If you genuinely believe this, I just have to say that this was not clear. But also, I think it is missing the point. I really hope you know when you read these words that I am taking you at good faith, I do not ant there to be any argument between us and I do not want to frustrate you. Is it possible for the two of us to communicate without rubbing each other the wrong way? I hope so! And I am trying. If you think I am not trying explain why to me and I promise to try harder.

There are two reasons why I did not think you were making the "this AND that" argument, or that you were acknowledging this argument. The first is that the other article is on "Jews." Jews refer to people, Judaism refers to something abstract. In other words, I do not see as you seem to, two articles Judaism (religion) and Judaism (ethnicity) - this would be two articles on two aspects of the same thing. I see two articles on two different things - Judaism and Jews. I think there is sense to this, since there are Jews who disavow Judaism.

The second reason is that I think that something very important would be lost if we had two articles (Judaism - religion and Judaism - ethnicity). What we would lose is the various ways in which national and religious aspects of Judaism cannot easily be separated, that they are from the start intertwined. Somewhere you commented on your desire to call Judaism a religion because Christianity and Islam are called religions. But Christianity and Islam are not nations. Christianity in fact claims to be a religion all people can belong to. Jews on the other hand consider it impossible to practice the Jewish religion unless you are also a member of the Jewish nation (Judaism = both). In this Judaism is very much unlike Christianity and Islam. I think calling Judaism a religion minimizes or obscures this crucial difference.

Be that as it may, I have added some reliable sources that inform my view. But I wanted to make it clear to you that I see that you made your change in good faith, and that I am disagreeing with you for reasons I have thought over a good deal - they are not capricious or trivial and I did not restore the earlier version because it gave me some pleasure to revert you, it was because I thought the previous version is more consistent with the sources. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 01:22, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I understand what you are saying but you are missing some crucial points. First consensus was ALREADY gained on the Judaism article. You are the only one who keeps changing the article. Everyone else agrees with the edit I made. Second, you keep talking about what YOU believe and your OPINIONS. Here on wikipedia, opinions do not matter. I'm sorry, it's just that simple. It clearly says on the Judaism article, "For consideration of ethnic, historic, and cultural aspects of the Jewish identity, see Jew." It doesn't matter if you think the Jew article is about the people and not about the ethnicity or culture. According to wikipedia it is. Which makes your argument completely pointless. Please comply with consensus.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I tried being reasonable. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 17:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

We have concensus on the lede in Judaism?
Can you point to anywhere on the talk page that doesn't have at least two people arguing the other way? Please, for the time being, revert your own change (as suggested by others on the talk page to avoid a new protect due to edit warring). We don't want to change the lede until there is clear consensus, and I'm not seeing a clear one yet. As my own entries on the talk page indicate, I don't particularly care about the outcome, but we're well past the point at which WP:BRD is appropriate. &mdash;ShadowRanger (talk 21:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Consensus was already achieved before. If the issue is being brought up again we can discuss it. However, I don't think I need to change it back as I changed it to "religion" before and it was agreed it would be left that way while we are discussing it anyways.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

The discussion's been reopened. In fact, after you left the edit war on this issue became so intense that User:Abecedare protected the page from further edits until people could agree not to change the lede before consensus was reached. There's still a heated discussion about the subject happening on the article's Talk page, if you'd like to see it or join in. --AFriedman (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Already did. A while ago.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 23:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey
It's been a long while, and sometimes I wonder if anything changes at all. When thinking about this, what the fuck kind of genre is NWOAHM? I've NEVER heard a band that wasn't something else. And as an aside, I'm sick of the fucking Lucifugum page being deleted. I think I'll try to recreate it, but the lovely people here probably salted it after last time. See you around?

P.S. Thanks for getting me kickstarted here; although when looking over the diffs you warned me about (for old time's sake), you misread the first one as OR (you misread the red text as what I had written, but I had just merged two paragraphs together, so the second one showed up red), so I feel a bit vindicated ;) Mønster av Arktisk Vinter Kvelden (talk) 02:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I still edit wikipedia, but I just never get on this account at all. I just decided to do so today because I needed to create a new article/page and you can't do that w/o an account. I can definitely understand your frustration. All I can say is that wikipedia is far from perfect. It's good if you know what you're looking for and you know to take everything with a grain of salt. There is some shit on here that is total bullshit but is put up as legitimate and seemingly can't be taken down, like the NWOAHM page. I've still never seen anyone use the term outside of that article and that one reviewer, although people will probably start using the term BECAUSE the article exists, which is total crap and is totally breaking WP:Neologism, but nothing can be done apparently. They're using that article to legitimize a term that shouldn't be used as it is NOT real.


 * No problem. I'm glad I helped or had any positive affects on you or anyone else at all. I never felt like a big deal here, but after I've left I still get email and stuff from users asking me to come back. I never thought I'd be missed. As for me calling OR, we all make mistakes. I probably said that because I didn't see any sources attached to what you said, even though it was true. See ya around!  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 18:39, 16 September 2010 (UTC)