User talk:NawlinWiki/Archive 16

'''

Bold text
'''This talk page is archived every month (if I remember). The older pages are indexed at User talk:NawlinWiki/Archives.

Wondering why your article was speedily deleted? Check this list first.

Please add all comments at the bottom of the page (or I may not be able to find them).

Re: PUNK-OUT! wiki page To: Nawlin

I just noted the 'Punk-Out!' page deleted here. I wonder if you might reconsider with a re-write. Several people involved with the program have gone on to success.

Joshua Fried - Is now with Radio Wonderland, a NYC music/art project. His father is Gerald Fried, the noted television and film composer responsible for music in the original 'Star Trek' program.

Jon Reis - Is a nationally successful photographer, based in Ithaca, New York. He documented the shows in black-and-white photos.

Richard Hell - Submitted an autographed copy of his book to Rod Ice, program host, in recognition of his work.

Robert Gordon - Had band members visit the show in 1979.

Andy Hilfiger - Brother of Tommy, worked with members of the crew in a band called 'Absolute Zero.'

The Ramones - Were featured in a 1979 report about their concert in the area. The group now has legendary status.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodswindle (talk • contribs) 20:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Just came here to check a link to info on the New Zealand writer Jamie Waugh, found it strange that it had been deleted even though there is a 2 page article in this weeks listener (one of new zealands largest circulation magazines) all about him and his work, probably be prudent to put it back up if possible... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamespoltroon (talk • contribs) 04:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Tremendosaur Deletion
Hi NawlinWiki, I was just about to start a wikipedia page for the Sketch Comedy group called Tremendosaur and I saw that a previous entry had been deleted by you. I was wondering why you deleted the previous page, so that I do not start a new one that will also be deleted.

Thanks!

AHurlburt 01:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Ecademy Deletion
The Ecademy article was allowed to stay after a long deletion discussion. Why has it now been deleted? I put a lot of effort into verifying all the information and ensuring it was accurate. It is a notable website with a 10-year history. Maybe not so much in the US, but in the UK certainly. Wikipedia isn't US-centric is it?

Ste 16:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

More Vandalism
A user you warned id vandalizing again! Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poem_8

Daniel Musto 03:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
__________________ 15:33, 31 October 2007 NawlinWiki (Talk | contribs) deleted "Exmoor Singers of London Chamber Choir" ‎ (g12 copyvio content was: ' The choir, eventually to be known as Exmoo...')

This was deleted owing to concerns about copyright. The copyright is owned by me as I wrote the Exmoor Singers of London Chamber Choir website. For verification please email me via chairman@exmoorsingers.org.

Sorry this was my first wiki page and I was not fully aware of procedures. I produced it because I noted that another page was independently making reference to the choir. Please can you resurrect the page if possible.

The same I think applies to a page on Tallis Festival.

Thanks

Stephen Hall, UK


 * Hey NawlinWiki, I just refactored this comment, it was appearing in CAT:CSD. Hope you don't mind. James086 Talk &#124;  Email 09:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

History of the Linux deletion
Deleting this page has vaped the article history. This was a messed-up page move. Please restore this page and then move it (including its history) over the copy-paste job at History of Linux. Chris Cunningham 08:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I have histmerged the deleted article to History of Linux. Kusma (talk) 12:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just want to run this submition of my schools radio station for article (just a way to link to it so theres a point of reference I really have no connection to the station except through a friend but I did list sources that it is a student supported station and is a neutral site (I hope I haven't gotten the station in trouble). I didn't really know how to get in touch with you so i figured this was the way to do it. sorry if ive offend or annoyed you guys in any way.

"This is my following possible submission"

Wolf Pack Radio
About the Station: Wolf Pack Radio is designed to serve the entire student body at the University of Nevada, Reno. It exists by not only the dedicated undergraduate staff, but more importantly by the support of its listeners. Wolf Pack Radio caters to a variety of musical and personal tastes including alternative, indie, rock, hip-hop, and loud rock, other programming. The programming that is heard attempts to reach the maximum amount of listeners while introducing new music to the college community. Most of the music & programming heard on Wolf Pack Radio isn't usually heard on commercial stations due to the niche` nature of many of its programming subjects and music. Although at times it may play mainstream or other popular items on air due to the pure popularity and appeal of the music or programming. Wolf Pack Radio passionately encourages listener feedback from its listeners and staff and prides its self on being an accessible medium to the campus community, as well as ensuring that every concern that will benefit the students and the University.

Brief Bio: Wolf Pack Radio is the only official undergraduate radio station for the University of Nevada. Initiated in 1999 by a group of student radio entrepreneurs, Wolf Pack Radio is gaining steam on the university scene. The first of its kind in the entire state of Nevada, Wolf Pack Radio is an entirely student run station simulcasting via the internet and on the AM dial. In an ongoing pursuit of reaching more students, Wolf Pack Radio is pioneering the way for this independent radio station to move from AM to FM in the future. The first of its kind in the state of Nevada.

The Station has also been the springboard for many young and bright careers.

External Links:
'wolfpackradio station website' 'wolfpackradio's myspace page'

Gabrielle Roth
I was the creator of this page, and I guess I neglected to put it on my watch list. I strongly disagree with the deletion of this article and your eveluation that it is a vanity page. I have absolutely no connection to this artist, but she is very well known as a performer, workshop facilitator, recording artist (both audio and video), and to a lesser but growing extent as an author. I don't know how to retrieve my work, and I was not left a notice on my talk page that this action was being considered. I would like to have a chance to work on it and improve it. Can you tell me how to retrieve the original text?Rosencomet 19:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

SOMOS UNOS
Hi.

I have some articles in the Washington Post about us. That will help? I will to get you all the stuff we have.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by SOMOS1 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Zthezombie
I noticed that on the article for Metallica there are a lot of articles in the singles section of songs that weren't released as singles. I'm not sure how to fix this error myself, so I thought I'd report it to you. You can find a list of actual singles metallica has released on their website. www.metallica.com/discography, click on the album and it will give you a list of singles released from that album.

Thanks, -Z —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zthezombie (talk • contribs) 18:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Emperor Darius

Why did ya delete my page

Poor guy just doesn't get it, does he?
'Rolling-eyes smiley' and all that. HalfShadow 23:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Zeitgeist (video)
Hi NawlinWiki,

I would like to have the chance to add a hang on tag to the article. It was speedily deleted quite more speedily than usual. :) The article had been rewritten to be verifiable, reliably sourced and assert it's notability.  Please undelete it and state, without referencing previous deletion nominations why this version of the article should have been deleted.  Thank you. Pdelongchamp 23:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Zeitgeist (video) DRV
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Zeitgeist (video). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Pdelongchamp 23:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Beesker
Dear NawlinWiki,

Thank you for your email explaining that you have speedily deleted my Beesker page because it has not been shown to be notable. This was my first effort at putting up a Wikipedia page, and it may be that I do not fully understand the requirements.

I would like to suggest two reasons why Beesker might reasonably be regarded as notable:

a. Beesker (at www.beesker.com) is, so far as I am aware (and I have searched pretty thoroughly) the world's first and only directory of 'best on topic' websites. There are many directories of recommended websites, but Beesker is I believe unique in selecting the world's best website on each topic.

b. The British Libary (the UK's national library) regards Beesker as being sufficiently notable to justify having selected it for preservation in its permanent archive.

I hope you will feel that these are grounds for regarding Beesker as notable, and I look forward to hearing from you further.

With best wishes, Yours, Alex Reid Cambridge UK —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexreid2 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

No content in Category:Songs written by Milton De Lugg
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Category:Songs written by Milton De Lugg, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Category:Songs written by Milton De Lugg has been empty for at least four days, and its only content has been links to parent categories. (CSD C1). To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Category:Songs written by Milton De Lugg, please affix the template to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. CSDWarnBot 21:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

More Eden Montana "content"
There's another sockpuppet of Nede - Edenmonte - and another bogus page - The Eden Montana Show - which was edited by repeat offender 121.209.208.93. Thanks! Ttwaring 13:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Gaurav Pundir
Dear NawlinWiki,

I understand that you deleted the Gaurav Pundir page on 29 October, and am struggling to understand the reason for the deletion. As far as I recall, the material was completely factual, with relevant links/ citations and completely avoided any sort of subjective remarks. Request you to please undelete/ reinstate the said article. Thank you very much.

Warm regards, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.129.194 (talk) 23:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Zeitgeist (video)
Can you restore the article to my userspace? I would like to work on it and present it to DRV. Pdelongchamp 05:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * A draft userspace article has been created. Please see Deletion review/Log/2007 November 8. Pdelongchamp 20:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

NetAlert
Hi Nawlin, I posted about this on your user page last month but you missed it.

I created an article for NetAlert -- even though it was only a couple of sentences. You then deleted it within a couple of days. If you think the subject was not notable, you are wrong. A Google search for NetAlert reveals over 400,000 pages. Let me know if I can create the article again, or if you can "undelete" it. In Australia NetAlert is a huge thing often quoted in the press daily. link2

Regards --Wikipeter777 05:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sam Hawkins
An article that you have been involved in editing, Sam Hawkins, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you. --B. Wolterding 10:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

"Crystal (software synthesizer)" deletion
Hi -

Would you consider undeleting "Crystal (software synthesizer)" ? Considering its importance in the music world as the most widely used software synthesizer (the yahoo discussion group has over 7000 members http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/crystal-users/) it would be a shame to lose the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Viscoelastik (talk • contribs) 03:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[[File:Brazil template.png]]
Hello, I see you deleted this image as i1, I was wondering if you could tell me the name of the image that it is redundant to. Thanks. Jackaranga 03:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Jackaranga 05:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Steel article
Greetings. I am writing to discuss with you the re-creation of an article on the musical artist Dr. Steel. I understand that, in the past, many articles have been made that were of questionable veracity and I assure you that what I have planned will be well within the guidelines of Wikipedia. I have drafts drawn up for Dr. Steel himself and for his two released albums, if you would like to see these I will gladly send them to you. Any assistance that you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Msr iaidoka 04:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * As per your request I have made a test copy at User:Msr iaidoka/Dr. Steel. Msr iaidoka 04:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Fearscape
I noticed that you have deleted the Wikipedia article of Fearscape, I made two paragraphs of this before but the person above said the stuff about Dr. Steel =(, so i'll give a few points why I belive they should have an article.


 * 1) They have released two LPs (full length albums) on Rowe Records (Mortification, Mortification has released some albums on Rowe Productions, Mortification is the biggest and one of the first Christian extreme metal bands, this is a quote from their wiki; "Mortification is probably both the most successful extreme metal band to come from Australia and the most successful Christian extreme metal group in the World", you should read their article to see how significant they are and how they contribute to rowe productions status. read 5. in WP:MUSIC) and an EP. (short album)
 * 2) They were the 2nd main metal band at the Black Stump Festival (black stump is a huge christain music festival) Fearscapes Page On The Black Stump Website <<< "Currently regarded by many as the premier Christian Metal band in Australia". The main band being Mortification, you can see how significant they are in their wiki and how they contribute to the status of the Black Stump Festival and Fearscape attended the same time Mortification did (07 Black Stump Festival).
 * 3) They're big in the Australian metal scene. <<< don't have any sources as of yet but will get some soon.

Jerry teps 08:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Patentcafe
An article that you have been involved in editing, Patentcafe, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you. Edcolins 10:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You previously nominated it for speedy deletion. --Edcolins 10:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

KSI (Clan)
Contrary to your response, I'm not the one who put the info on; I'm only the one who put it into its own page separate from Ksi (Cyrillic letter). (Check the latter page's history.) Georgia guy 22:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

NyLon
Hi! See also. I didn't make up this term. There is such a thing as a "NyLon commuter" to give you just one example. BTW I live in London so I know this term is widespread. Don't rush and delete this article just because. Can't you see it is used in the prestigious FT ? If they gave it a greenlight why erase it? The term already exists, we cannot do anything about it! Please! Apostolos Margaritis 13:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

You've got NO RIGHT to decide on your own what to delete or not just because it happens that you dislike an article. And it is not used ONLY in ONE FT article. Why are so biased not to say plainly incorrect as to this issue of the so called "one" refference? There're more than that. One, two..three...Learn how to count. It's arithmetics. Let me be clear: I'm gonna mobilise wiki users who are gonna defend the right of this article to exist.Apostolos Margaritis 15:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Nawlin, listen carefully will you?
I will just let know OTHER wiki-users (and not clones of myself or "puppets") that you want to delete a legitimate article which is backed by references WITHOUT giving any VALID, RATIONAL reason to doing so. It is their right to find yout that there are nasty censors lurking around here who ultimately are anti-wikipedia. I'll go that far and contact the founder of wikipedia and explain your self-tailored, private policy of deletion which ignores all the rules of the common sense INCLUDING the precepts of the policy of WIKIPEDIA themslelves. And many wiki users, I'm sure, will like to have a word with you as to your "original" way of bullying people around and threatening to wiping off their articles, again, with NO VALID reason given. You are not allowed to impose your own rules here, I'm afraid. Better create your own wikipedia and set out its rules according to your principles. But this is not your PRIVATE DOMAINE, is it really so difficult to understand? Apostolos Margaritis 18:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Which of the below mentioned place you live in Nawlin?
It's not my fault you haven't heard about NyLon in grim Grimsby or in Crapville, Idaho Apostolos Margaritis 18:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Here's another reference Nawlin
"World capital? Nylon, of course " in "The Observer" Sunday, March 25, 2007 So we'got the Financial Times, we've got The Observer what else on earth do you want more than that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apostolos Margaritis (talk • contribs) 18:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Foxy Shazam
Come on... I made this page for my love of the band. They are rising in popularity and even toured throughout North America for eighteen months straight. They just got a record deal and they are coming out with a new album in January with the management of the lead singer of The Number Twelve Looks Like You. They are a huge influence; especially in the Cincinnati area. The page I created was the beginning of a more extensive overview of the band as I would be adding to it in weeks to come as I hope some others would. Please undelete the page as it is a very good band just making there big break hopefully even with some radio time. I had just created the page and it was like two in the morning. I was planning on working on it for a while and making it better quality with better sources. Just give it a week or two. At least undelete it so i can copy my code and so I dont have to start all over again when I remake it. I just need to add more reliable/acceptable sources which I was overwhelmed to pause on because nature created a sense in me to sleep. Please just undelete it so I can make a copy of the code and work on it. Just so you know as of now their official website is under construction and will send you directly to their myspace for the time being.

I have made some updates to the foxy shazam page and I would like you to take a look at it for me to make sure it is up to standards. Please send me anything else i can do to improve it...but if it is good enough for the time being please tell me so i can post it as a true article under the name foxy shazam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanlammi (talk • contribs) 20:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Dear Nawlinwiki, You speedily deleted an article I started about the first organic winery in Western Australia's Swan Valley. This winery is notable I think because a. It is the first certified organic winery in the district and 2. It is using environmenally sustainable practices. I will have another look at it and try to make sure the references support notability - but I am quite confused as to why then is there an article about the Feral Brewing Compnay on Wikipedia that is just a blatant advertisement with no notable attributes at all. Also, a big wine corporation that is in the same region has an article about itself on Wikepedia (Houghton Winery). Can you see why I am confused as to why my article was deleted? What should I do to avoid being deleted again before I can finish the next attempt - write ((hang on))? Best Regards, Deborahlea —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deborahlea (talk • contribs) 01:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Maria Takagi
Hi, NawlinWiki. I've just noticed that another editor started an article on the AV idol Maria Takagi, and that you deleted it. I've been preoccupied with other articles, but I certainly believe Maria Takagi warrants an article. You can see a few sources and news articles on her at Chronology of adult videos in Japan, 2002 (the Mainichi links have now gone out of date, but can no doubt be located at Internet Archive, I'll do that later). I think that the little text I can see at Maria Takagi-- "Maria Takagi is a former Japanese teen pop idol, who is now Japan's highest paid porn star, and one of the top 5 highest paid porn stars ..."-- is certainly an assertion of notability, and would think that the article at least deserved an AfD, at which point, if it had come to my attention, I would have happily added sourcing and content. Anyway, if you don't feel the article as it stood (I never saw it, so cannot comment on it) deserves to be reinstated, I hope, at least, you won't object if I create it later. Regards. Dekkappai 20:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, Nawlin... Wish I'd noticed the article before it got deleted. I'll try to put together a decent article for her later though. Regards. Dekkappai 18:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

t1
Hey NawlinWiki, what does "t1" refer to in your edit summaries that you when you delete templates? Also where can I see the list of these codes? Thanks DenizTC 04:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Dias Juturna
Hi, I was wondering...this new development team is coming up with a game for PS2/PC, and I wasn't sure if I was allowed to place an article about it on WIkipedia if it wasn't released yet. If so, how do I make sure it doesn't get deleted? It's the article 'Bandit Hunters'.

Help concerning article : Jack Clift
Hi Nawlins,

I am not sure if you can help me with this. I noticed that you once deleted a page about the composer Jack Clift.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Jack+Clift

I have attempted to add content to this page twice, and it was subsequently deleted by another admin: "Number 57".

I have since provided this adminsitrator with links to third party sources, newspaper articles, music industry awards to verify the notability of the subject.

He refuses to even acknowledge me let alone answer my questions, which is odd, because I have been very cordial. At the least I have been asking to be supplied with the deleted text or for him to undelete the article, so I may add the new sources to the page.

I hope its not inappropriate to contact you regarding this matter, i have just become very discouraged by the lack of communication, especially since I have spent considerable effort to find sources that show notability. Do you have the ability to send me the deleted text?

thank you much, Mcgumbrie Mcgumbrie 19:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Sairam Iyer
'''Article 'Sairam Iyer'

Hi Nawlins,

You have speedily deleted the article I started. This is my first attempt. The article is about an established singer from India who has the unique ability to sing in male & female voices. He has performed all over the world and with artists like John Coltrane & Kavita Krishnamurthy (references available).

Since this is my first attempt to put contribute to Wikipedia, I would appreciate your advice regading how I may proceed to insert this article in Wikipedia.

Regards

Ninadthackare

Speedy deletion
Dear NawlinWiki, I just received your notice about speedy deletion but I didn't completely understand why. I put the article about GoBC, which supports many local nonprofit and volunteer organizations in BC, up because people asked me to put some information about our company up on Wikipedia to make it easily accessible. It can be argued that this article is promotion about our company but how could you write this article different in order to make it not appear promotional? Any suggestions would be more than welcome.

Thanks

wzilker —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wzilker (talk • contribs) 20:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Feral Brewing Company
Hi, I noticed you prodded this article... they are a notable brewery having won international brewing awards hosted by The Royal Agricultural Society of Victoria (and I am suprised they don't have an article). The awards are well covered in broad Australian press. I have de-proded, please if you afd the article I would appreciate being notified. Garrie 04:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I usually find that anyone who removes a prod without a message on the talk page of whoever put the prod there... doesn't do enough to warrant the prod being taken away. ie if someone takes a prod away with no comments then I usually go straight to afd... As the article was I could really see why you slapped it with a prod though!Garrie 13:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Tags on new pages
Hi Nawlin, just a note, some of the pages you have been tagging for cleanup and wikification, the tags have been formatted the wrong way. Use as opposed to. Otherwise the tag states "This November 2007 may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.". Spebi 21:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Andrew Hajinikitas
This was deleted due to concerns about copyright. The copyright is public domain and such a world record is quite funny.

Appologies as this was my first wiki page and I was not fully aware of procedures.

I produced it because for once in history a world record occured that was funny;

Ahajinikitas (talk) 03:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)ahajinikitas

Eric Yenz Pang
The page created for Eric Yenz Pang in no way falls within the category of speedy deletion. Eric is a very prominent figure in Australian politics, and, as President/Convenor of the NLC (http://www.nlc.edu.au/), is an important voice for international students in Australia, as well as being a major powerbroker in the National Union of Students, and has been often quoted and cited in the national media. Other participants in the National Union of Students have consistently been voted by Wiki editors to be worthy of having a page, for instance Mathew Chuk and Rose Jackson. Whilst it may be arguable that a delete tag was worthy, it in no way falls under the category of speedy delete. StuPol (talk) 10:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Darsh
uhh dude darsh is not an insult in emo culture, at least i dont think so. even if it is i am spreading the word about the new word darsh. It is in websters dictionary. also since you deleted my post on darsh I think it is funny that New Orleans was destroyed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darshdoshi (talk • contribs) 00:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Leola McConnell
She ran for governor of Nevada. Doesn't that make her notable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRealdeal (talk • contribs) 07:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Warning?
The vandalism was so extensive and persistent, I felt that a warning was a bit superflous. A bit of common sense may have been in order, perhaps? Sorry if this sounds a bit angry, but the vandalism by that IP was so clear that requiring a warning to block seemed a bit over-the-top. Mr Which??? 16:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I must have accidentally reported the wrong IP then. There were two vandalizing the article, and I must have reported the one which hadn't done as much harm to it. My apologies for the mistake. Mr Which??? 17:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Frameworth Sports Marketing
According to the rules to set up a page for a business it has to be noteable and not advertising. I set the page up in a way so it did not promote the business it just stated who the were and some of their prime athleats. They have been noted in many places including espn.com (dont have this on me right now but it can be found upon request) and an artical from the Pittsburgh TRIBUNE-REVIEW on Sunday, September 4, 2005 where it states facts about the company including Frameworth Sports Marketing, the Canadian high-end memorabilia company that fans can link to through Crosby's Web site, has for the last six months been out of stock of 50 percent of the Crosby items they offer, according to company president Brian Ehrenworth.

Sports representation agency IMG handles Crosby, and they first approached Frameworth about selling his memorabilia when he was just 16.

"It was the first time we've ever gotten involved with a player at that age," Ehrenworth said. "IMG wanted to work with someone who could plan the future of his memorabilia and merchandise. Even at that age, they were thinking about a game plan."

Among Frameworth's other clients are some of the best to ever play the game: Mario Lemieux, Wayne Gretzky, Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr, to name a few. A signed Lemieux Team Canada jersey sells on the Web site for $789.99. A signed Crosby Team Canada jersey sells for $639.99.

"(Crosby is) our No. 1 seller right now," Ehrenworth said. "Over the long haul, Gretzky and Orr have been our strongest movers. But certainly in the last three to four months, it's been Sidney." Please consider the deleation and let the Frameworth Sports Marketing page stay up. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travis0096 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I HATE ALL OF Y'ALL —Preceding unsigned comment added by MacTefron (talk • contribs) 15:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

its not just one artical i said that was just one here is another Sports cards can fetch up to $150 a pack and that game-worn jersey may end up costing $400, as sports collectibles fetch top dollar. BUSINESS MONDAY: Big hitters Jeffrey Reed Special to The London Free Press January 16, 2006

There are two trends highly visible in today's high-stakes memorabilia market. No longer are fans purchasing autographed jerseys, then only framing them and hanging them on the walls of the basement rec room. In fact, they're wearing them as everyday casual attire -- not appropriate for casual Friday at the office, but visible everywhere else.

'''And, no longer is an autographed 8x10 hung only on a wall at home. Memorabilia has left the basement, and has invaded the bedrooms and boardrooms of Canadians.

According to Brian Ehrenworth, president of Frameworth Sports Marketing, the sports memorabilia market "went mainstream" in the mid-1990s.

No longer do you need to search for a store like Smith's, which closed in the late-1980s. Visit any supermarket, flea market, big-box store, or the Internet and you'll discover an endless selection of everything from Wayne Gretzky dolls to miniature NFL helmets.

Formed in 1992 as a picture frame company, Toronto-based Frameworth is now the North American leader in framed memorabilia design, the largest distributor of NHL autographed memorabilia, and one of the largest distributors of sports collectibles.

Not counting cards, Ehrenworth estimates the sports collectibles industry in Canada is worth about $2 billion annually -- and that's just the legal buy and sell market.

Memorabilia with forged autographs floods the legitimate market with millions of dollars worth of sports items.

In the U.S., FBI investigations such as Operation Foul Ball, and Operation Bullpen, have turned up warehouses full of fake autographed collectibles worth millions.

It's estimated the forged memorabilia market is worth $100 million annually in the U.S., giving new life to the old joke that, "Mickey Mantle (who died in 1995) still has one arm out of the grave to sign autographs."

Smith says he is amazed by how many Mantle autographed bats show up during his travels. "Mantle didn't sign a lot of bats," says Smith, "yet more and more show up every year. There are a lot of phonies out there."

Certificates of authenticity and numbered holograms accompany legitimate pieces of memorabilia such as those available through Frameworth.

Both Ehrenworth and Smith caution that a simple certificate of authenticity can easily be duplicated with a laser printer.

"Where the certificate comes from is the key," says Ehrenworth.

Frameworth represents leagues, teams and individual players, and sells directly to on-line customers, but counts the corporate client sector as its biggest market.

"A corporation might purchase $100,000 worth of memorabilia to give away to clients. It might give away an autographed Gretzky sweater, and it might be hung on an office wall," says Ehrenworth.

Stefanie Turnbull, director of marketing for the London Knights, says the hockey club has been in discussions with Frameworth regarding sales of official Knights products, such as framed photographs.

Coming off a Memorial Cup-winning campaign, anything adorned with the Knights logo turns to gold. This season, new products include an insulated lunch bag in the shape of a puck stamped with the Knights logo.

Game-worn jerseys have been auctioned online, and have sold for $300 at the John Labatt Centre. Turnbull says the new storefront shop, London Knights Armouries, offers the club "an opportunity we didn't have in the past.

"We sold Knights products all summer long -- jerseys, T-shirts, and small souvenir items."

While the Canadian Hockey League retains some marketing rights with each Ontario Hockey League team, the Knights control most of their own sales.

Fans at the JLC last May had the opportunity to get up close and personal with hockey's newest superstar, Sidney Crosby, who skated with the Memorial Cup-finalist Rimouski Oceanic and now plays alongside Mario Lemieux with the Pittsburgh Penguins. Ehrenworth says Crosby is one of Frameworth's most sought-after clients.'''

or how about thus frameorth has partnered with many players like Sidney Crosby and even the most famous arena in all of sports

MSG Collectibles: Madison Square Garden Collectibles InsideHoops NewsWire | Nov. 15, 2006 Coinciding with the start of the 2006-07 New York Knicks and Rangers seasons, Madison Square Garden introduces Madison Square Garden Collectibles, a distinctive combination of team memorabilia available exclusively in-arena, it was announced today. Madison Square Garden Collectibles will be facilitated through Frameworth, innovators in the memorabilia business for over 15 years.

The all-encompassing Madison Square Garden Collectibles will feature an assortment of game-used jerseys and equipment from the Knicks, Rangers and Liberty, as well as from Garden boxing events, in addition to photographs, autographed items and limited edition historical pieces. As the Collectibles division expands, items from areas within the Garden will be available, allowing fans to own pieces of the legendary venue.

"Madison Square Garden, New York’s premier sports and entertainment company, is entering a new phase in its history -- we are aggressively pursuing opportunities that grow our business in new ways," said Hank J. Ratner, vice chairman, Madison Square Garden. "Whether we are developing a new business that takes advantage of the on-going history made in our arena each and every game, or developing new partnerships and platforms that extend our brands and expands our presence in sports and entertainment, Madison Square Garden is 'open for business,' and entering a period of unprecedented growth."

The collection, which ranges in price from $10 to $1,000 and higher, will showcase a constantly changing inventory of items. Fans will have ongoing access to blocks of the game-used Madison Square Garden basketball court, pieces of Rangers game-used nets and sticks, game pucks from goals scored by the Rangers on home ice, including, for example, the first puck scored by Jaromir Jagr as captain on Opening Night 2006. The Madison Square Garden Collectibles “He Shoots…He Scores” puck series will commemorate pucks scored during Rangers home games in a specially framed presentation.

"Madison Square Garden is the preeminent venue for sports," said Steve Mills, president and coo of MSG Sports. "We are pleased to provide our fans with the opportunity to take home one-of-a-kind memories created right here on the court, ice and in the boxing ring through Madison Square Garden Collectibles; we expect the diverse offerings, available at various price points, to be extremely popular."

Rangers fans will also have the opportunity to own the 50 Goal Club framed trio of photographs of Vic Hadfield, Jaromir Jagr and Adam Graves. To complete the sports Collectibles line, there will be special items that the Garden has saved for decades, such as autographed pieces of the Knicks championship team basketball courts and autographed framed photos of Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier from their historic bout in 1971.

“We are excited to be working with Madison Square Garden to explore and develop collectibles that capture the imagination in new ways,” said Brian Ehrenworth, president of Frameworth. “Working with the World’s Most Famous Arena allows us to take the memorabilia industry to a whole new level and offer items that have never before been available.”

Madison Square Garden Collectibles are available at the Garden’s Double Teamed store and in the Garden mall area merchandise stands. or how about how they hire sports stars to work there

Three months ago they were trotting on to the field at Frank Clair Stadium for the Grey Cup in front of more than 51,000 cheering fans. So, what are the Argonauts doing today?

Well, you could just walk into the Mississauga Rona Hardware store and see for yourself. Chances are Antonious Bonner knows the advantage of PVC piping and Bashir Levingston can point you to a dandy-looking new faucet.

Ordinary guys doing ordinary jobs. Such is the charm of the Canadian Football League. It remains one of the last bastions of pro sports still populated by people whose existence is not defined by the number of zeroes on the back end of their paycheque.

With the average CFL salary between $50,000 and $60,000 annually, many players hold down off-season jobs. Tony Miles and R. Jay Soward also work in Rona's Mississauga store. Running back John Williams is at the Hamilton outlet.

Kicker Noel Prefontaine works with Frameworth, a company that specializes in photo framing. "We're actually a client of our kicker," Argonauts' president Keith Pelley said. "We just bought some Grey Cup artwork from Noel."

Even the hockey Hall of Fame has chose Frameworth to partner with

Legends of Hockey Photographs Now Available Fans now have access to the largest and the most historically significant hockey photo collection in existence. The Hockey Hall of Fame is pleased to announce its partnership with Frameworth Sports Marketing, who will now reproduce and distribute the Hall of Fame's unrivaled photographic collection of nearly 1 million hockey images. These photographs are fully licensed by the Hockey Hall of Fame, the NHL and the players.

Visit www.frameworth.com to view our Legends of Hockey collection and learn more about our "Legends" starter packs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travis0096 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I dont understand why you would include market leaders in other industries like Nike on your site but a leader of the sports marketing industry is excluded from this site.

Nicole Wray Starring in InDepenDance Day, Vol.1 The Takeover
Please stop posting the mixtape for deletion. I trying to do everything i can. you need to allow me more time for this page.

Northern Lights and The Golden Compass
@NawlinWiki -- As you're an administrator, there's no way for me to fight you by re-adding this content. However, I feel that your removal of this discussion is biased in the opposite direction and borders on being anti-Catholic. What I wrote was a general statement of the Christian perspective of the book and Pullman's work in general, with some specific quotes from Pullman himself. I even modified my own entries on the The Golden Compass page to LIMIT discussion to the religious perspectives present in that work itself, while posting a note that religious perspectives of Pullman's other work were discussed at greater length on the main Philip Pullman page. Instead of just removing what I wrote, why don't you help me rephrase it so the discussion is still there, but it is referenced appropriately to be accepted. Please don't abuse your administrative authority. Cavalierex (talk) 18:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

DRV notice
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Shibby. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jreferee   t / c  20:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Last Warning
Whatever bitch! block me Soccermeko (talk) 04:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)soccermeko

Unblock Woggy
Hello, i was looking at User Woggys contributions, and found out that he has been blocked indefinitely. Has he been blocked from wikipedia for ever? i don't think its fair if he has. I think he has learned his lesson, and therefore should be unblocked. Leave a message on my talk page. I really do think it is a bit to hard if he has been blocked for ever. (Clawsofmidnight (talk))

Explanation
please. Faked ???? Pedro : Chat  22:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers buddy. Good catch on the fake comment. Pedro : Chat  22:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

He might have learned his lesson
I really beleive he has learnt his lesson been blocked for a month Nawlinwiki. Has he been blocked forever? i have had a look at some user accounts that you have blocked for a long time. Unblock him, see what he does, if he does anything bad again, block him for good. Simple. I just think that its not necessary to block a user forever. (Clawsofmidnight (talk) 07:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC))

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Rubinoos.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Rubinoos.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 21:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Dear Friend, thanks for reverting the vandalism on Rotavirus. Graham Colm Talk 22:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC) P.S. I thought that robot was only persecuting me!)

Thank you
Thank you for reverting vandalism on my userpage. The IPers keep you very busy!! Your wiki-work is much appreciated. LanceBarber (talk) 05:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Skyman123
Hey, thanks for helping me clear up all that pagemove vandalism! :) GlassCobra 18:43, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Workforce software deletion
It has just come to my attention that the article I wrote on WorkForce Software was speedily deleted back in April. You labeled it as spam and blatant advertising. I would like you to reconsider. This article was written using existing articles of other time and attendance organizations as a model, and it was done in the most objective manner possible. I don't believe I was given a fair shake here. I suggest that you take the time to re-read the article and then compare it to others in the same industry. And, I might mention, there were several white papers of considerable interest that were submitted along with this article.

Writing a marketing piece was not my intention. I strove to be objective and informative, and your deletion has does visitors to topics of this nature a great disservice.

Please respond...I want this information back on Wikipedia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Workforce (talk • contribs) 16:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Evayo
Dear NawlinWiki, The article written for Nonsurgical Breast Enlargement is based on information that is cited in scientific journals. Can you please identify the reason for tagging it as spam and blatant advertising? The information posted was in no way meant to be vandalism. I appreciate any information you can give on this subject so we may amend the definition. Thank you. Evayo (talk) 18:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Evayo
This is a scientifically backed alternative for breast enlargement recommended by doctors worldwide. I am simply trying to get the information about this alternative to breast enlargement available to individuals that searching for information. I have tried to be informative and not biased. This is not my company, nor am I trying to advertise the specific product. I am simply trying to define the category and make women such as myself aware of alternatives. Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evayo (talk • contribs) 18:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I tried to track down some of the citations in the deleted article and I can't seem to make the citations agree with the actual article titles. The individuals cited have written articles that appear in the journal, but the titles don't seem to match.  I think the actual articles are behind a paywall.  I strongly suspect that this is junk science with a thin veneer of peer-reviewed science on the surface; let's both keep an eye on further "developments", pardon the expression.  I'm keeping an open mind, but I've seen this sort of thing before, and I bet you have too.  Accounting4Taste: talk 19:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Evayo
Cited articles have all appeared in the prestigious peer reviewed journal, Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery. These publications are referenced on http://www.brava.com/professional-publications.asp. Here you will see a description on how to access a copy of the abstract via PubMed. The links for the articles are listed below, though you must be registered to access article in its entirety. As a medical provider, I can request hard copies and would be happy to send them to you.

Ingrid Schlenz, M.D. http://www.plasreconsurg.com/pt/re/prs/abstract.00006534-200711000-00035.htm;jsessionid=HNHGn2pL1TQhYXynWG6QTrJdgF1ny66nPhwDtGpTJSjY289GQ2cv!65375592!181195628!8091!-1

Richard J. Greco, M.D. http://www.plasreconsurg.com/pt/re/prs/searchplusresults.htm;jsessionid=HNLDNTkvlw5q7n1yPL8bDGnccyb2P412hf12pYXS3y9pbf2GKJDk!65375592!181195628!8091!-1?&index=1&results=1&searchid=2#cite1

Anthony Atala, M.D. http://www.plasreconsurg.com/pt/re/prs/searchplusresults.htm;jsessionid=HNLDNTkvlw5q7n1yPL8bDGnccyb2P412hf12pYXS3y9pbf2GKJDk!65375592!181195628!8091!-1?&index=1&results=1&searchid=3

Curran Smith, M.D. http://www.plasreconsurg.com/pt/re/prs/searchplusresults.htm;jsessionid=HNLDNTkvlw5q7n1yPL8bDGnccyb2P412hf12pYXS3y9pbf2GKJDk!65375592!181195628!8091!-1?&index=1&results=1&searchid=6

Doctors across the US and worldwide offer this device (During my research I have found Plastic Surgeons, OBGYNs and Family Practice MDs that have spoken of the device).

Is there a place that I can show you my edited version with limitations of the system, or can I post it without you blocking me? I am hesitant to post since the last message I received was about vandalism. Thank you for you time. Evayo (talk) 20:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Just Wondering
I just got my other account blocked indefinately because somebody from my school edited articles unconstructivly. Can I please have my old username back, I use it for everything —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbbindians (talk • contribs) 22:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

It was baseballnut8 --Sbbindians (talk) 22:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

They said something about that. It was like shn***** or something. oh well, thanks anyways --Sbbindians (talk) 22:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

RfD nomination of "Winslow Carlton"
I have nominated for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Ricky Smith 14:53, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Animi-3 Deletion
Hi, I am wondering about the deletion of the article on Animi-3.

14:19, 30 November 2007 NawlinWiki (Talk | contribs) deleted "Animi-3" ‎ (g11 ad content was: ' Launched in 2004, Animi-3 is available by prescription and contains DHA and EPA omega-3 fatty acids and a combination of essential B vitamins: prescription strength foli)

Would the article be accepted if the first sentence was re-worded to not sound like an ad? Thanks! BeachTeach007 16:01, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Fibromyalgia
Fibromyalgia guy has apparently found a sock account. I've done all I can, unleash the fury of your administrative powers upon him/her/it/them! I'll watch from the sidelines. WLU 19:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)