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Intermatic
This page was deleted while I was in the process of finishing it. This was my first page and was showing the information about the company, historic timelines, and their product lines. I was updating links to references and when I went to save it you had already deleted it. I advise you wait longer than 15 minutes after a page is created to delete it. This is one reason why I was reluctant to even participate in wikipedia since people like you can delete perfectly relevant information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Socialsitecore (talk • contribs) 22:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

AGAIN WITH THE DELETION!!! THIS is NOT an Advertising Page. If there is language you would like removed, THEN EDIT IT. You have deleted 191,000 pages yet edited less than that. I have taken this issue up with Wikipedia Directly from this point.--Socialsitecore (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

STOP DELETING PAGES THAT IS NOT YET DONE!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rassie90210 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

KevMattuary
I believe that the deletion of KevMattuary was unjust. for this reason no one like us. It was claimed that wikipedia is not for something you just made up one day but is this not how all ideas are started? Yes our calender is not yet in use but none of the other calender reforms are not either. I leave you with a thought:

You may take our lives but you will never take OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baninja (talk • contribs) 13:35, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Azantis
Dear NawlinWiki,

Very disappointed that you deleted my first page contribition to Wiki. The page name was Azantis. It's the second or third largest krill oil company in the world, and sells a product that has significant environmental discussion, in which Azantis is a leading voice. The two competitors' pages are perfectly accepted with not much or different information than I offered in the first draft for Azantis. I feel it's not wikipedia's role to give preferential treatment to some and not to others. My frustration is based on the outright inequality of your decision, and the fact that you did not consider precedent. Based on this information, please re-post the page, or at a minimum indicate which SPECIFIC content does not meet your personal judgement that it doesn't meet wiki standards. Waveone — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waveone (talk • contribs) 19:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The article didn't cite any sources (other than Azantis's own website, which is not independent - see [{WP:V]]) to indicate that the company met the notability standards of WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:19, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Diary of a Wimpy Kid:Rodrick Rules (film)
Dear NawlinWiki,

Why did you delete that page?!I was excited that the preview finally came out today,January 3rd,2011.It was Diary of a Wimpy Kid:Rodrick Rules the page.I want you to reput the page or your not meeting the good fact on wiki standards. WilliamFireFilms — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamFireFilms (talk  —Preceding undated comment added 04:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC).


 * The article had no content at all - just an infobox. You need to actually write the article.  NawlinWiki (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I did write on it until you deleted it,gosh!Everyone always delete my pages... WilliamFireFilms — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamFireFilms (talk  —  —Preceding undated comment added 18:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC).

Wikipedia ten
Hi.Why Wikipedia ten deleted?This Website is a Wikimedia project so What is proplem?--YOSHImitsu 13:38, 5 January 2011 (UTC)


 * It still has to meet the notability standards of WP:WEB, like any other page. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Dean Pallen
Hi NawlinWiki.. I just added the Canadian Jazz musician Dean Pallen to WIkipedia and linked to an existing article on Wikipedia. I guess I saved it before I added some sources. I went back to add a few sources and you had already deleted it. Dean Pallen is a well known Jazz / world musician in Ottawa Ontario and just released a new CD/LP. Feel free to consider undeleted it.

http://ottawajazzscene.ca/archives/1774-dean-pallen-cd-release-concert-at-the-living-room-gallery

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Einstraus (talk • contribs) 05:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I was trying to create a page about an artist and not to advertise him on wikipedia. wikipedia has artists' pages. the article was neutral. and I had a really hard time adding references. I will repost the article since I do believe that CanKoone is an artist well known in the New York area and can be on wikipedia along all the other public personas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oabrosimova (talk • contribs) 06:36, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

CanKoone
I was trying to create a page about an artist and not to advertise him on wikipedia. wikipedia has artists' pages. the article was neutral. and I had a really hard time adding references. I will repost the article since I do believe that CanKoone is an artist well known in the New York area and can be on wikipedia along all the other public personas. He has been featured in several publications as joonbug, xxl, source, and has a website and several youtube videos. Please check those out: http://joonbug.com/national/frequency/Who-is-CanKoone/Epo0KBvTQWS www.cankoonemusic.com

I was not even finished with that article and you already deleted it. It was my first time on wikipedia and I had a hard time figuring out all the details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oabrosimova (talk • contribs) 06:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Language like "one of the most well rounded performers of the new generation" and "he strives to bring rap to a new level" is indeed promotional. Please look at WP:NPOV and WP:SPAM.  NawlinWiki (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Exxset
I'm not clear on your reason for deleting the Exxset page I created. I cited as many sources available on the net. I'm a current member of Exxset and just thought it did no justice to not have info about Exxset on Wikipedia. Please advice on way forward. Thanks.
 * The article didn't cite reliable independent sources (see WP:V) to show that Exxset met the notability standards of WP:WEB. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Myself
I don't understand why Snooki gets to have her own wiki page and I can't... I certainly accomplished more than what she has. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmorgan777300 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * See WP:BIO and WP:V. Basically, she's been covered by reliable independent sources, and you haven't.  NawlinWiki (talk) 15:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Stootfc
Stootfc vandalised Albert, Prince Consort, after which s/he twice posted The Famous Class, which you deleted twice. Not to be held back, s/he posted it a third time, and I've deleted it again. What level of warning do you believe to be in order? Nyttend (talk) 02:20, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I gave an L3 warn. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 02:22, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

VikVikVik
Dear NawlinWiki,

Thanks to delete so fast my intent to create a new Band Page here on Wiki, seems that you Administrators are paying attention to what is wrong and not to what is new. There are many ways to solve "problems", but surely the way to delete so fast an intent to post something considerable new is not good. I was still refreshing pages, read the help guide for post in a correst way, but...i realize i was too slow. So MR.NawlinWiki, thanks your efficient on your job....only a question: Is this a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit or just another make up "free" web?

Vikvikvik (talk) 19:23, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * For possible likely reasons why the article was deleted, please see the band notability guidelines (which articles on bands must meet), the reliable source guidelines (which are necessary to show the band is notable), and this essay explaining why noone on Wikipedia really cares about 99% of the bands out there. If you can provide some reliable sources that demonstrate that the band is notable, then the page may be welcomed to the encyclopedia. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:39, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Jacta77
Dear NawlinWiki:

My entry page was in no way spam, self promotion etc... another reason is notability - this is very relative... my entry subject is notable in my native country & certain parts of Asia - it was stipulated that if adequate references were not established in a 10 day period the entry would be deleted... My entry was not given this grace period... (Jacta77 (talk) 03:01, 10 January 2011 (UTC))

Seems to me Wikipedia's flaw is the fact that "ordinary" people are supposedly not notable enough... this is not how it should be... everyone is notable in their own right... NawlinWiki - you may have just done the greatest favor... (Jacta77 (talk) 21:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC))

Wildheart natives
FYI, you just deleted Wildheart natives, and the user has just re-created it. JoeSperrazza (talk)
 * Delete now. Cheers, JoeSperrazza (talk) 03:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

$teven (Steven Campbell)
Hello. During NPP I stumbled on this page and it was quickly deleted. The user's talk page had 3 or 4 CSD notices. Now, another user has created $teven. Can you tell me who the original author of $teven (Steven Campbell) is so I can open an SPI case?--v/r - TP 03:22, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No need - I just blocked the second account, Niceorange17, as a sock of the original account, User:Sk8sickstevo. The second account was obviously created to avoid the level 4 warning on the original account.  Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 03:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Anne (film)
Look, Anne (film) was a joke, not a hoax. My history teacher made us create a W@ikipedia page on a WWII item that would never see the light of day. It could be anything we wanted and this is what I made. As soon as I get my grade I would've deleted the page but please, don't delete before then. Thank you.
 * Please ask your teacher not to assign students to post joke or hoax pages here. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

The Layover Mixtape
You deleted The Layover Mixtape under WP:CSD (non-notable recording where the artist's article does not exist). While I agree the recording may not have been notable, the artist (Evidence) apparently is. I would have thought that a redirect to the artist's page would have been more appropriate. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point - restored and redirected. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 13:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Rotax Aircraft Engines
Dear NawlinWiki, you deleted the page of a company division of Rotax. This page should give information about the company and engines. Which part is considered as advertising? Please, give me some details so that I can rewrite the page. Thank you, AndreasBRP2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndreasBRP2011 (talk • contribs) 14:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Question
I just started using wikipedia to edit/create today, probably the same as most of the people you deny pages to. I understand now why my article "Oscillator Z" is not acceptable. My brother, "Oscillator Z" IS currently signed with http://www.puremusiclabelgroup.com but not listed yet as he was signed recently. My question is, once his singles and releases are stated on that page, will that be a "reliable source"? I'm very interested in wikipedia editing and thought an article about him would be a good place to start. Just wondering. A lot of people here seem to think ANY website with info about something is "reliable" even though I can start a website for 1$ and write anything I please on it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fowlewb507 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * An artist's own label's page is not an *independent* source, which is what we need. A guide to our sourcing rules is WP:RS. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:29, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

G'day admin who read, yesterday I was contributed an article about a band named "Along with Hatred" for twice, but those all deleted slightly. I thought it bcs I typed the article too short, so people may think that truly basic info is just useless. Should I rewrite a full story of this band instead of keeping the article retained or it also will be deleted as before? thanks admin, hope I can contribute one of the world's screamo bands from Indonesia.

Btw, I'm trying to relate the band's name with the following http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Naruto_chapters_%28Part_I%29 look up -~146. "Along with Hatred...!!" (憎悪とともに...!!, "Zōo to tomo ni...!!")~- as its name inspired by that Naruto part. Many thanks for ur attention, best regards n_n

Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabukatman (talk • contribs) 08:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

TAG Sports Deletion
Hi there, I joined wikipiedia today and made an artical about TAG Sports which has been deleted because you decided that it was to promote the business and spam. Similar organisations have pages on wikipedia, could you please advise which parts of the artical are not acceptable?

Thanks --Ross1793 (talk) 16:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * "The company has grown from strength to strength". Apart from the advertising, the article doesn't indicate that the company is notable per WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:28, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

憎悪とともに / Along with Hatred (Indonesia)
G'day admin who read, yesterday I was contributed an article about a band named "Along with Hatred" for twice, but those all deleted slightly. I thought it bcs I typed the article too short, so people may think that truly basic info is just useless. Should I rewrite a full story of this band instead of keeping the article retained or it also will be deleted as before? thanks admin, hope I can contribute one of the world's screamo bands from Indonesia.

Btw, I'm trying to relate the band's name with the following http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Naruto_chapters_%28Part_I%29 look up -~146. "Along with Hatred...!!" (憎悪とともに...!!, "Zōo to tomo ni...!!")~- as its name inspired by that Naruto part. Many thanks for ur attention, best regards n_n

Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabukatman (talk • contribs) 08:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Knights Hockey
Hey man I'm not trying to be a problem. I just joined Wikipedia its seems really cool and great way to learn and add info for lots. I made the knights hockey page, and I'm trying to understand why its being called irrelevant. Its not promoting anything or doing anything bad at all. Its is about something that truly happened in the sports work. When i go and look up all kinda of articles to do with sports team, Ex. Alabama Crimson Tide Football, Or New York Knicks, Or a better example even London Knights, which is a hockey team which doesn't even play any more, they all have pages just about the team and team back ground. Thats all that was trying to be done here. I'm just trying to figure out why those are ok and the knights hockey page gets canned after like 18 minutes on here. Again, not mad, just confused and want to know how to get knights hockey page to stay like all the other sports ones get to and tell the story of this league, team, and events which really happened.


 * Amateur and youth teams aren't considered notable. See WP:ATHLETE. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Why is this allowed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_City_Hockey_League — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigsleeper (talk • contribs) 18:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * (1) It has a reliable independent source (2) It's about an entire league, not just one team. In general, though, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Patrol
Thanks for working so hard at deleting articles. Just today I have been in the process of tagging a article with the appropriate maintanance templates, and you sneak in underneath me and delete it. I shake my fist (mockingly) at you for being so expidient at deleting articles. I'll try not to let it happen, but sometimes you are just too fast for my taste. *winks* Thanks, Hasteur (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

knights hockey (continued)
what about this one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_amateur_football_team

and Could you please tell me how to make the knights hockey article notable?
 * You know, if you don't think there's a difference between a country's national amateur team and a team in a recreational roller hockey league in Searcy, Arkansas, there's not much I can do to help you. But in general, the subject has to be notable per WP:N, and you need to be able to support the article by citing reliable independent sources per WP:V.  NawlinWiki (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, yes I understand the difference, but when you say in your above post that amateur team aren't allowed to have articles, that has to include all amateur teams, would u not agree? It should not have exceptions. I understand that it needs to have sources cited and I appreciate your help. But the page keeps getting deleted before I have time to get my sources put up there. If I take the time to get sources and have the links there that back it up can it stay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigsleeper (talk • contribs) 18:48, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


 * No, you should not post the article before you have sources. If you like, you can work on it in your userspace, say, at User:Bigsleeper/Knights hockey. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:50, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, i wont load it til i have sources but if i get them added onto it, will it be allowed to stay on the encyclopedia? (Bigsleeper (talk) 19:22, 13 January 2011 (UTC))

Bed Bugs Bite
You have deleted my article about this company after I edited the title. The article had been up since november, why was it suddenly a target for speedy deletion? The company is an innovator in the technology it uses, which makes it notable. Did I follow the wrong process of renaming the article to correct the title? ThreeQuills (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Curtiz
Hi, Hope you have a good day, You recently deleted the article mentioned above, based on the fact tht it does nt point out why he is so important tht and why it should be on wikipedia, the article crearly state the position of the person as an artist, I don't understand why you guys delete articles that way, that is discouraging. Elianamwiha 23:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elianamwiha (talk • contribs)

Lords At War
Hello NawlinWiki,

You have informed me that the article I wrote about the hip hop band Lords At War "does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant." In addition to the fact that Lords At War is a published hip hop act that recorded and released a 12" single in 1992 that sells for up to $550.00 per copy today, there are over ten paragraphs worth of additional information that detail "why the subject is important or significant."

I ask that you please "hang on" a moment and review the content of the article - including those reference sources that confirm the authenticity of the band and the value of their recording (www.discogs.com and www.popsike.com). I'm sure you will find that this is not a "contrived" or "invented" entry at all but one that was carefully written after doing thorough research and conducting extensive interviews.

Thank you for your consideration.

T.Diva 00:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)Taina.diva

Maguire
The article I started on William Maguire was one I expected to expand. He had just died and was curatur in the Ulster Museum. I had hoped to seek and find further information. Osborne 09:48, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Mànran
I politely request that the article about the band Mànran be reinstated as they are of cultural significance to Gaelic Scotland due to their efforts to raise the language's profile.
 * It doesn't matter if you, or I, think the band is significant. What matters is if you can show that they are notable per the guidelines at WP:BAND, as established by reliable independent sources per WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:16, 14 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that, I'll add some substance to it when I have time later.

Please consider reinstating entry for The Really Good Book Shop
Hi, I respectfully request that you reconsider your deletion of the entry for The Really Good Book Shop. It is a work in progress and I had cited severaly sources for verification. It is included in the Independent Bookstore category for australia which includes only one other bookstore so far. It makes it look like Australia has no bookshops so I thought I would add this one as it is my awesome local store. Thanks for your time and consideration. Or if I have done something wrong, please let me know how to fix it. Smartbustard (talk) 12:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * This may be a wonderful bookshop, but the article didn't indicate that it met the notability standards of WP:CORP, as supported by reliable independent sources per WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I was still updating it when you deleted it and I had included a reference to a newspaper article and had intentions of including some more references that I was working on. Did you happen to see the updated reference. Please reconsider. I know it is my first article and I am a bit of a novice at this so please excuse me if I have stepped on any toes. I am trying to fulfil all of the requirements but I am a bit slow at all this computer stuff so please forgive me. Smartbustard (talk) 12:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi again NawlinWiki, are you able to please copy my page into 'Editing User:Smartbustard/The Really Good Book Shop' so that I can work on it there without having to start all over again. From there I will try to get it up to scratch so that it is acceptable. Thankyou for any help you can give me. Smartbustard (talk) 12:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Now in your userspace at User:Smartbustard/The Really Good Book Shop. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:35, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou, I really appreaciate your help Smartbustard (talk) 13:46, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi. You deleted cramptown spaces? We are a real band, look at our links. we will beplaying support soon to a band that won the ireland best youth band competition, and have opened a charity festival in portlaoise, our hometown. i dont see why you deleted this. please reply. thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommyboy2k10 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not enough to be a "real band". The article didn't indicate that this band met our notability standards (see WP:BAND). NawlinWiki (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

AbuseFilter cleanup
I'm noticing the percent of edits hitting the condition limit is very high, and there seem to be several false positives I've noticed recently. To avoiding tramping over you, could you please go through and remove everything from the 'long list of stuff' filters you use? A lot of that is very old, and I'm sure no longer needed. Otherwise we will have to start disabling useful filters (as opposed to the useless ones which I intend to disable now). Thanks, Prodego  talk  06:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Will do, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Cramptown Spaces
About my band again. We were on the radio, so it qualifies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommyboy2k10 (talk • contribs) 10:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC) NawlinWiki (talk) 13:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't. The guidelines from WP:BAND are:
 * Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
 * Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.

Uperesa Elisara Fakava
Look, WHY DID YOU EVEN DELETED the Reiza Rinah Ray page????? IT WAS ALL TRUE. I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF EDITING AND TRYING TO UPLOAD A PHOOTO OF HER WITH THE MISS ASWA, BUT YOU DELETED I? WHY WHY WHY? Sorry, I was just so pissed of by YOU! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.70.114.83 (talk) 14:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Pythonism
Why did you delete my page on Pythonism, I admit I over exaggerated but I was just about to edit it, when you deleted it. It is a real group that is trying to be recognised as a minor religion in the next UK census. Also as your from America, you are not acquinted with our country's minor religions and so cannot possibly comment on Pythonism, a UK based group that is relativly unknon to any NATION OUTSIDE THE UK. And so I ask you to reinstate the page.
 * It doesn't matter whether you or I know about it. What matters is whether you can find reliable independent sources to show that this "relativly unknon" group meets the notability standards of WP:ORG. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Stan Lebovic
Dear NawlinWiki, I see now you were quite correct with the way that the article "stan Lebovic" was written, it was Very promotional. I would very much like another go at it, cutting out All the promotional material. And just being Strictly Informative to wiki standards. Thanks Michael Dov (talk) 14:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Michael DovMichael Dov (talk) 14:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, but you need to cite reliable independent sources to show that Mr. Lebovic meets the notability standards of WP:BIO. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:13, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for deleting my article without any comment to my questions :-( --HendrikEbel (talk) 14:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It was an advertisement for software that you developed. See WP:SPAM and WP:COI. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

The Church of Hip Hop Deletion unjustified.
This is a page describing an organization important to Hip Hop Fans. It is a Church 'without walls' They dwell in the undergrounds of Hip Hop and have no political nor religious affiliations. The organization was formed in China by an African American Man out of New Orleans, La. He moved to China and I know him. But have no way I of giving solid verification of His Existence aside form the fact that he is from New Orleans an travels throughout Asia pulling in new members for the church. And give speeches at underground hip hop events in Asia, and Latin America. What type of verification wold I need to justify the relevance of these facts. He gave me a program with tenets as well as by laws, structure of belief as he has also created a religion from an out of body experience he had whilst growing up in NOLA. Please tell me what I need to give you as proof aside from this pamphlet that he gave to me in Thailand. It has an enormous following amongst certain travelers I think the world show no of this wonderful organization The Church of Hip Hop is. Who can I legally write about his organization? Thank you for your response. Peace Love and Soul........ KNOW5IO — Preceding unsigned comment added by KNOW5I0 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You would need to find reliable independent sources (see WP:V) that show that this organization is notable per the standards of WP:ORG. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:03, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Structeome
Yeah, NOR isn't true, but can I get the text I wrote back so I can figure out what I did so I can either provide reliable independent sources or work on it on a special page (which I agree is perhaps where it should've been---you can move it there if you'd like too) until I dig up the references.

Maja3141 (talk) 15:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

A question/Guidance
Hello there; I am Ani MSc student of computer science. Since my supervisor wanted us t o create a Wikipedia page, I have started a topic under name of ISLAB(Intelligence Systems Laboratory). And you deleted it by the criteria named "A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content))" and "‎ (A7 (web): Web content; doesn't indicate importance/significance)"... The content of page was referring to a brief introduction for this laboratory as it is directly by permission of my supervisor so we didn't have any copyright issues as well, but you had deleted it neither because of copyright access problem and/or the content type. Now I have a question Is creating this kind of pages really unimportance according to Wikipedia terms or did I missed something like reference or etc. for this purpose? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Animgr (talk • contribs) 09:51, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * See a note I left at User_talk:Tnxman307. Hey NawlinWiki, I was in Baton Rouge last week--they tell me y'all's Étouffée is mud compared to theirs. Cheers! Drmies (talk) 17:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Thomas "Tom" F. Courtney
You had deleted my page, and I was just wanted to get clarification on exactly what needed to be added. I have a couple of additional sources that I have come across from the Chicago Tribune and the Local Chicago ABC site that have information that verifies the content and shows notability. Would this information be sufficient to reinstate the article? Please let me know as soon as you can.

Thank you,

Improvechicago (talk) 03:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)ImproveChicago


 * Despite local news sources, I don't see how a not-yet-elected candidate for municipal office meets our notability standards, see WP:BIO. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Anderson Cooper
My edits to Anderson Cooper were not vandalism. They were fully cited. I will revert the edits, please do not warn me about things like this in the future. Thank you. Mr. Very Kool Guy (talk) 02:16, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Poke (about a speedy deletion)
Hi there, you speedily deleted a page something like a week ago; and yes, I did read User:NawlinWiki/List_of_things_that_will_get_speedily_deleted; and no, WP:Conflict (even if obvious) doesn't suffice here. Please give more than six characters of comments why the page sucked too much to exist, preferably at its WIP talk page to help the poor original writer to fix it into a publishable shape. Cheers! --109.108.18.196 (talk) 14:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * just wanted to add that the person who's been assigned to write the page obviously is a new 'pedian so if you have time to do a bit of preaching you might actually end up doing the good deed of the day. --109.108.18.196 (talk) 14:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Ricambi America
This article has been re-created I tagged it for speedy deletion but tag has been removed.  Teapot  george Talk  22:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Quick Question Re:username violation
Hi... I see that you've blocked milfpounder88 for username violation. I was about to put it on the noticeboard as you were doing it. I've not reported username violations before and I wonder if I should have simply reported it rather than bother with a warning on the user's talk page since it was obvious it was in violation. Is that correct? (plus the fact that the only edits were vandalism). Just wondering. Thanks for your help!  Wikipelli  Talk   15:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * For one that clear, yes, just report it. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 15:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Usually a bot will take care of names with "milf" and other watchwords, but it seems to be working sporadically lately.  — Soap  —  15:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Good job
Good job on the Robert Mazur speedy deletion (I was looking at it while you were deleting it). Particularly, the double-rationale - when an article is both copyvio and unduly promotional, it is impolite to imply that the creator could slap a CC-BY-SA tag on their website and have the article restored in tutum (no particular comment on this case, just a general pet peeve). And then you let the creator know how best to proceed if notability can be established and a new article written. All around good work - keep it up. - 2/0 (cont.) 22:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

294
Stopped working about an hour ago, and I can't figure out why. It might have something to do with the extra line at the top of the page, but I can't seem to see why that would matter.  — Soap  —  02:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Since it stopped working right after you made your changes, I reverted back to the older, working version - maybe you can find another way of covering HJM's subpages. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 02:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Speed Deletion Question? (Ontario band)
I wrote my first article on a band (Mockingbird Wish Me Luck) that you deemed un-notable by wikipedia standards (a7). This may have to do with the fact that I submitted it before it was complete (in an attempt to save what i'd done to that point.) I finished and resubmitted but it was deleted just as quickly. I sited some fairly large websites in the music community (exclaim/punknews.) How much validation does an artists need before they are deemed notable? They're signed to one of the largest independent record labels in Canada(which has a wiki page) and they've tour across North America. If I add more information it could look like advertising. Please help me understand this deletion? Highways-Unknown (talk) 20:25, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * See WP:BAND and WP:V. If you can meet those requirements, feel free to repost.  NawlinWiki (talk) 05:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Songwriters
Hey a few of my songwriters were deleted off of wikipedia within minutes. I had significant references as well as links to each one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keshafan123 (talk • contribs) 05:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The article didn't cite reliable independent sources to show the subject's notability per WP:BIO. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

The Online Citizen
I do not really know why an article on such an important socio-economic website as the Online Citizen in Singapore should be deleted. The website is so important that the government has forced it to register as a political organization. The government considers a major threat against the authoritarian regime. It is therefore VERY relevant to understanding Singapore politics today. There have been many reports about it in the local press as well as in Malaysia. Do you want quotes from these articles? How do I make notability known in the article? --Ghormax (talk) 11:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I should add this sentence: The blog will become famous for being the first blog to be registered as a political association in Singapore. ?? --Ghormax (talk) 12:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * "Will become famous" means that it's not notable yet per WP:WEB, see also WP:CRYSTAL. Also, a subject's notability needs to be shown by reliable independent sources per WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

When The Straits Times warrants an article, why not an alternative news platform? THIS IS NO ORDINARY BLOG! --Ghormax (talk) 13:51, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * sorry, I meant make history as the first blog to be registered as a political association on January 29, 2011. It is of course very famous in Singapore as it is the most popular socio-political blog. The media in Singapore is controlled by the government so the only alternative media are blogs like The Online Citizen and Temasek Review. Read this: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1612630.php/Singapore-reaffirms-decision-to-reclassify-critical-website


 * You cited Monsters and Critics, not the Straits Times. Do you have a citation to a reliable source per WP:RS?  NawlinWiki (talk) 16:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If I may drop in on this conversation: I didn't see the proposed article before it was deleted, but there is quite a bit of recent press about The Online Citizen. Here are recent articles in The Straits Times, CNNGo, Today, and The Economist.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I've moved the page to User:Ghormax/The Online Citizen. If the author will add the references mentioned by Arxiloxos (thanks!), then the page can be moved back to mainspace.  NawlinWiki (talk) 19:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
Any Reason that this is protected and the redirect of the page goes to the informal (Western) name rather than reverse? Just wondering before bringing it up on the Democratic People's Republic of Korea's current site talk page at North Korea : TalkLostinlodos (talk) 23:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The protection is due to previous page-move vandalism - feel free to discuss a change. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:59, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Bedat & Co
This was my first page writing about this company, historic timelines, and their product lines. Just like the article "Altermatic" this is clearly not an advertising page. I'm upset that my page got deleted and I strongly feel that it is unjust! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BabyJinxi3 (talk • contribs) 04:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

SomersTotalKare
Exactly like the above article, this was my first page and was written impartially about the firm. There is an in depth history with external links to a lot of relevant local factors; while the business may not be as renowned in the states it carries a large heritage in the Black County, one of the key areas of Britain during the industrial revolution. All statements made are factual and can be backed up by the company who are established market leaders for the UK. I can see why the advertising deletion has been thrown as it is my first contribution but further analysis of the page states positive but impartial and FACTUAL claims and is clearly not an advertising feature. I too feel the deletion is strongly unjust, especially for such a well known firm, while an article on Walter Somers Handling a former body of the company that expired over 20 years ago, still (and rightfully) exists? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingswinford92 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If you insist on including language like "With a team of area sales managers and executives headed by sales and marketing director, James Radford, SomersTotalKare provide lifts for 10,000 businesses and have established them as the UK’s market leading supplier of heavy duty mobile vehicle lifts. With major industry clients such as Scania, Arriva and First Bus, SomersTotalKare’s sales extend from large-scale trade corporations to local garages and the business prides itself on its mission statement “to help customers lift heavy duty vehicles in a safe and cost effective way, offering a market-leading service”.", the article will keep getting deleted as advertising. Furthermore, you need to find *independent* sources supporting the company's notability; "all statements can be backed up by the company" isn't helpful, because the company itself is not an independent source.  See WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Filter 295
Hi, Nawlin. Filter 295 appears to have a lot of false positives and has only matched 11 now blocked accounts within the past 6 months. The rest appear to be moves in good faith. --Bsadowski1 19:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The last time we disabled this filter, the vandal immediately started moving pages. But I've loosened the throttle - let's see if that helps.  NawlinWiki (talk) 19:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it would be a good idea to remove the disallow, but leave everything else. That way, the vandals will still be swiftly blocked courtesy of the bot's AIV reports, but the good faith editors won't have their moves disallowed. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   19:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Book deletion
Books aren't covered under A7. Your deletion The boy in the oak should always occur in my estimation, but isn't technically covered under A7. &mdash; Timneu22 &middot; &#32; talk 22:30, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You got me - I looked, and was surprised to discover that this is an actual book published by a publisher, not, as the article appeared, something a kid made in class. I've restored and tagged the article.  Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 22:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if it is a book made by a kid in class, that's still a book, and many admins refuse to honor A7 on it. (A shame!) &mdash; Timneu22 &middot; &#32; talk 12:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Texas State Senate districts
Hi NawlinWiki,

I noticed you have already taken care of one of my requested CSDs. These were created by a known vandal (User:Mmbabies) who is IP-hopping to avoid a community ban. In any event these pages are fakes because the Texas State Senate only has 31 districts. I filed them under G3, but i see that G8 is probably a better tag in these cases. Thanks. -- Gridlock Joe (talk) 22:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * All gone. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 23:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Afghan civil war
Please review my edits before you revert. The article is specificially about "civil war" and I updated and improved it. It was written very sloppy with too much personal views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Me chase girl she chase me (talk • contribs) 04:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Quia
Please see Talk:Quia. I was writing a response to the SD tag, meanwhile, the article was being deleted. I think you were a little trigger happy with that article. Is there a was to un delete it? Not-so-cheery, Mìthrandir (talk) 23:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks for that. It was really frustrating me because this is what happened; I created the page, it got tagged for SD, I was writing on it's talk page and the article got deleted under A7, the talk page gets tagged for G8, I am editing the talk page to deal with that and the talk page gets deleted for G8... really annoying me.... thanks for clearing it up... Cheers. Mìthrandir (talk) 23:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Boticca
Hi, I hope that this finds you well! While trying to move the stub page User:Trident13/Boticca to the page Boticca, I was advised by the system that the page had been protected. On reviewing the page, I discovered that in September 2009 that you had twice deleted content placed into the page about the same company, and had then placed a Permanent Protection tag on the page so that it can not be recreated. Having created an article on my personal stub page, I agree that in September 2009 Boticca would not have passed WP:NOTABILITY. However, having now created the stub article in January 2011, I believe that the company does (WP:RS includes the Telegraph, Daily Mail, New York Times and Vogue UK). I have hence requested unprotection of the page to allow the creation of a suitable article. I have requested this by placing a tag on the articles talkpage, with my reasoning. I would appreciate your input. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 23:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The draft article sounds awfully promotional - "Boticca’s team has handpicked more than 160 independent designers" etc. Could you work on making it more neutral?  Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 01:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Stinky Finger
Hi. I'm in Colchester, in the UK. Several people in this town are fans of the band "Stinky Finger" which seems to have an albeit small but worldwide following. See for example this quote from one of the pages I cited as a reference: "Stinky Finger was the biggest band to come out of the East Tennessee area [...] Def And Dum by Stinky Finger was put out on cassette only and recorded in Bristol at Classic Studios in 1988. Copies circulated for years and everyone I know from those days can still sing and rap these songs" - from http://www.taringa.net/posts/musica/850783/Stinky-Finger---Def-and-Dum.html

I just spent about an hour working out how to produce a properly constructed stub page, sitting here with my brother who has been familiar with this band for many years. We were delighted to see the page appear and then crest-fallen when it was speedily deleted. Please could you consider re-instating it :) Ponzi Nemesis (talk) 02:23, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The blog post that you cite isn't a reliable source (see WP:V), and doesn't seem to show notability per WP:BAND. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your speedy response. I have had a look at the links you provided and can see that this is, at best, a borderline case. However, given that I have created the page (I didn't think to save a copy of the source but presumably it can be retrieved if we agree the page should be re-instated?) I expect you'll agree that it is a worthwhile excercise to determine which side of that borderline is appropriate in this instance.

I note that criterion 7 of WP:BAND states "Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability". I have found a multitude of references from seemingly independent sources indicating that this band qualifies with respect to being "most prominent of the local scene of a city". The following, for example, is quoted in several places, including on the page I linked to above:

"The Tri-Cities, (Bristol, Johnson City, Kingsport) was never known for it's music scene like Athens, Los Angeles, or Seattle. [...] I'm gonna go ahead and go on record as saying that before two bands there was no real "alternative" music scene here. Those two bands were Stinky Finger and Brian And The Nightmares. We all followed their lead. And if I had to narrow it down even further, we followed Stinky Finger's lead. Not musically but in attitude. They were bigger and more influential in our scene than anyfuckingthing on MTV."

If true it would seem to indicate that, circa 1988 at least, criterion 7 was satisfied. You were correct to delete the page as I was not aware how strict the WP:BAND, perhaps understandably, are, and as a consequence had not addressed the need to demonstrate notability. However now I am aware of the criteria, looking at the evidence I can find online, it seems to me that the balance of probabilities is that the band was at the very least notable in the "local scene" sense.

I have no connection to the band. I haven't even heard their music. However I am following my instincts in that if a band from the US has fans in the UK, based on a cassette that was circulating over twenty years ago, then that fact probably ought to be noted by wikipedia. I feel it ought to be possible for someone such as myself to make that happen without having to spend hours researching the matter.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks again. Ponzi Nemesis (talk) 03:47, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Kayo samuel luke
Can I do a remake of my previous page as mentioned above, as long as I make it a lot more factual, plz? :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinodazer2000 (talk • contribs) 09:45, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Tyger Vinum
Hello I wrote the article on Tyger Vinum. All that's missing is why he is notable. I can provide that information immediately if the article is re-instated. The rest of the information including verifiable references have already been added. Watergirlluvchild (talk) 19:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If you can show notability per WP:BAND, backed up by reliable sources per WP:V, feel free to repost. I would advise getting rid of all the bold type and codes; that makes it seems like advertising/promotion.  NawlinWiki (talk) 19:15, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Gary Hunt
Hi, I was writing an article about the Commonwealth bronze medalist and Olympic hopeful diver Gary Hunt, who is the current Red Bull Cliff Diving world champion. This person is clearly notable, search google for Gary Hunt and you will see that he is a big name for Red Bull and in the sport of cliff diving. This is obvious - he is the world champion.

You deleted my article the moment I started to write it, giving me no chance to build it up and insert sources.

How about next time you give me a chance to write more than the first sentence before you delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cas84 utd (talk • contribs) 13:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Red Bull Cliff Diving is not a professional sports competition, and you've mentioned that he's only an Olympic "hopeful", which means essentially nothing. But, since you asked so kindly, I've restored the article for you to give you some more time to work on it.   This does not mean that it will not be deleted again if the finished version still does not credibly assert notability.  —  Soap  —  16:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

- In response to above, define "professional sports competition" please. Red Bull Cliff Diving competitors face strict qualification requirements for the championship, compete against each other in a number of events round the globe over the course of the year, and are awarded prize money based on their performance. For many of them it is their only "job" and requires year round training programs. It is far more physically and emotionally demanding than regular Olympic diving. Please explain why you feel they are not professional sports competitors, and how they differ from, say, a poker player, for which you have many many articles on wikipedia. Furthermore, even if you still consider Red Bull Cliff Diving to not be a professional competition, Gary has a 3rd place finish at the Commonwealth Games, which certainly is a professional sports competition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cas84 utd (talk • contribs) 17:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Ginkgo CADx
Hi NawlinWiki, I saw that you have deleted the Ginkgo CADx entry in wikipedia, I write this page because I saw this project in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_healthcare_software and this software doesn't have a page like the others opensource projects. I need to do something to reenable this page?. Thanks in advance. Metadiego (talk) 15:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You would need to show that this project is notable per WP:N, as established by reliable independent sources per WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipédia: a enciclopédia livre e gratuita da Internet
I removed your Prod. While I agree it is not notable, this is likely to be controversial, so please send it to WP:AfD. Bearian (talk) 16:02, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)