User talk:Naypta/2020/September

Tech News: 2020-37
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Normally pages can be moved to a title that has no existing page yet or to a page that has only one revision, which is a redirect to the page to be moved. A new user right allows editors to move pages over one-revision pages that redirect to anywhere.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 September. It will be on all wikis from 10 September (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg All MediaWiki API modules will now use  instead of  . This was inconsistent before.

Future changes
 * The Wikipedia Android app team might work on patrolling tools in the future. You can let them know what tools would be useful for you or for less experienced patrollers. See the page on mediawiki.org.
 * OTRS will be updated to a new version. This will probably take around two days. OTRS agents will not have access to the system during these days. Emails that come in during the update will be delivered when the update is done. The plan is to start around 08:00 UTC on 14 September. This could change.
 * The Wikipedia Android app will send push notifications if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will need Google Play Services to work. It will also be possible to get the app without Google Play Services but push notifications will not work. Google Play Services is also used to make the app work for Android 4.4 users.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikimedia code review could move to GitLab. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. You can take part in the consultation.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Dropdown menus in the Vector skin use a  class. This will not work in the future. Scripts can use   instead.   and   will also not work. Some scripts need to be updated. You can read more in Phabricator.

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Tech News: 2020-38
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Problems
 * The Wikipedia apps briefly showed pages without CSS last week. This meant they looked wrong. It was quickly fixed but cached pages without CSS were shown for a few hours.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 September. It will be on all wikis from 17 September (calendar).

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Can Yapperbot notify users long after the RFC started?
On an RFC for Talk:List of My Hero Academia characters, Yapperbot notified several users on August 26, and has not notified any users of it since. Only one user who was notified commented, and they said that since the original header was so long, I would have trouble getting people to comment. The header has since been shortened, but now I’m worried that Yapperbot will not notify anymore users, as it has only done so on one day, when the header was nigh-unreadable. Is Yapperbot able to notify users several weeks after the RFC first started, does it stop notifying if the header is changed, or does it only notify on the same day it was initiated? I’m worried because there has been a content dispute about at least 20 kilobytes going on for a while that I believe an RFC would resolve, but the other user in the dispute hasn’t given any constructive input since January and Yapperbot hasn’t notified anybody since the day the RFC started. Unnamed anon (talk) 00:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I would like to jump in on this. Before seeing this, I made a similar comment about the same RfC saying that it is undernotifying people--only three people responded to it and to contact you and ask for help. I see s/he has already done that.
 * I have had long discussions with Naypta about what I consider to be under-notification of RfCs and how to fix it. (See User talk:Yapperbot).  I took a break from Wikipedia, but my interest in the subject has not disappeared.  If you would like to help with that, I might be more motivated.   Any thoughts on this?  --David Tornheim (talk) 21:02, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Responded at Rfc. Mathglot (talk) 21:45, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. What a mess that became! Hope it's all sorted out now! --David Tornheim (talk) 08:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * FYI, I got notified about this discussion after already being notified. I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me after replying off my talk page. Thank you. 21:25, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, that answers my question. Thank you. Actually wait, I just remembered that I reset the rfcid for a short time. So without restarting the rfcid, is it possible for Yapperbot to notfiy users long after it started? Unnamed anon (talk) 19:45, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Society, sports, and culture request for comment
Your feedback is requested &#32;at Talk:Lichess&#32; on a "Society, sports, and culture" request for comment. Thank you for helping out! You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name. Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. &#124; Sent at 23:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

RFC seems to be inappropriate &mdash; What gives?
I received the following email:
 * Yapperbot‬ left a message on your talk page in "‪Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology r...‬".	Your feedback is requested at Talk:Ayurveda on a "Maths, science, and technology" request for comment. Thank you for helping out! You were randomly...

On going there I found that this is not correct as the discussion is out of date and closed, with penalties for editing. This could be troublesome. If this indicates a bug, please check. JonRichfield (talk) 03:31, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-39
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is a new tag for reverted edits. For example you can see it in the recent changes feed or in the article history. It is added to edits when they have been undone, rollbacked or manually reverted to an older version of the page.

Changes later this week
 * The number of times you can do something in a period of time on wiki is limited. This could be the number of edits per minute or the number of users you email in a day. Some users are not affected by all limits because of their user rights. They could soon see the limit even if it does not affect them.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 September. It will be on all wikis from 24 September (calendar).

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Tech News: 2020-40
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes Problems
 * Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete.
 * Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days.
 * Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

Future changes
 * You can't see the language links to other language versions from the talk page or history page. They are also not shown when you edit an article. This could change. It is not decided if for example the history page should link to another history page or to the article. You can take part in the discussion in Phabricator.
 * The link colours could change. This is to make the difference between links and other text more clear. You can read more in Phabricator.
 * In your preferences you can choose to get different notifications on the web or by email. You will see  as one of the alternatives later this week. This is because the Android and iOS Wikipedia apps will use push notifications for those who want them. You can see the preferences on the test wiki. The goal is to have push notifications on Android in October and on iOS in early 2021.
 * You can soon put pages on your watchlist for a limited time. This could be useful if you want to watch something for a shorter time but don't want it on your watchlist forever. It now works on mediawiki.org and will come to more wikis later. You can read more and see when it will come to other wikis.
 * You can see what Wikimedians think are the best new technical tools this year. You can also nominate them.

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