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Happy editing! Megaman en m (talk) 17:27, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Old Norse IPA
In regards to your edits to Vanir:

A while back I created some charts at User:Gilgamesh~enwiki/Evolution of Icelandic vowels to better illustrate an external reference for the evolution of Old Norse vowels. The First Grammatical Treatise period did indeed pronounce unstressed i and u as and  respectively, and in the 12th century were raised to  and, but were never actually  or. The normalized spelling, which uses the i and u spellings, wasn't devised until the 19th century, well after the shift to and  had taken place. And yes, this means i and u were pronounced differently depending on whether they were stressed or unstressed within an inflected morpheme, being and  when stressed, and  and  when unstressed.

As for the second r phoneme, it may have been ...or or  or  or who knows what. Its exact value when it was still distinguished isn't reconstructed with so exact a value, so the symbol is deliberately broad and vague to indicate it was not necessarily dental or alveolar, but was retracted to the postalveolar or retroflex position. All that is known for sure is that this second r started out as, and eventually merged with the other r.

- Gilgamesh (talk) 12:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)