User talk:Ndzippy

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October 2008
Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. FlyingToaster (talk) 06:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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Content from deleted page Talk:Doug presutti
I copied the content from the page Talk:Doug presutti here for future reference. The page was deleted under criterion G8 for speedy deletion. Regards  So Why  08:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Doug Presutti is a classmate of ours at the University of Notre Dame. He is one of the brightest students in the class and is on track to do big thing. This page is proactive in nature, as we expect to build on it with news of personal and public accomplishments in the near future. Ndzippy (talk) 06:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is for subjects who are notable in the present, not the future. Thank you for your edit, but information about ongoing accomplishments would be best left to a personal website. -FlyingToaster (talk) 06:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from. However, as the most popular student in the current graduating class of Notre Dame MBA students, he is very much notable in the present, albeit to a relatively small number of people (around 500). Can you please tell me what Wikipedia's threshhold is?Ndzippy (talk) 06:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read our guidelines on notability to gain a better understanding. The short version is that he must have been reported on in more than one reliable source. PrinceOfCanada-HG (talk) 06:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * :) PrinceOfCanada beat me to it, but he's right - "notable" is a different thing than popular, and has more to do with objective evidence. A good measure is if you can find independent references that you can cite as to the subject's notability.  You'll find that a good Wikipedia article always has these reference, which can help to gauge how notable a subject is. Notability is a useful guide.  -FlyingToaster (talk) 06:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I have a good, reliable, external source. http://www.fantasysportspost.com/author.php?author_id=3&PHPSESSID=96f0eba17e1bdf03298c806befbd2276. "Doug Presutti is a senior writer for FantasySportsPost.com."Ndzippy (talk) 06:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A writer profile on a fantasy sports page probably doesn't qualify as good and reliable. A better reference would be a link to an article or news story from a well-known source. I should clarify that the purpose of the source is not to establish that the subject exists but to establish notability.  -FlyingToaster (talk) 06:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

When you say "probably doesn't qualify," what do you mean? Does it or does it not qualify? The site, FantasySportsPost.com, is not owned or operated by Doug Presutti. Granted, it was a site that, at one time, employed him, but he no longer works there. But he was a senior writer. Is that not notable enough?Ndzippy (talk) 06:51, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I mean that it does not qualify as a useful story. The point here is notability.  If the most respected journalism site in the world wrote an article that said Doug presutti was a fantasy football writer, this would still not be notable.  That is because the person himself must be notable (Notability).  What you would need to do is somehow prove that Doug presutti falls under those guidelines.  Please read them through, they do explain this very well. -FlyingToaster (talk) 06:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Flying Toaster, I understand that you're correct. However, can you let it slide for a couple of days? It's for a practical joke.Ndzippy (talk) 06:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, Wikipedia has no sense of humor by design. Why not fill his dorm with balloons instead? -FlyingToaster (talk) 06:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)