User talk:Nectarflowed/archive

Refactored text
I am refactoring this section, "Featured picture: rat 'kittens' vs. 'pups" from Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive, where it was about to be deleted permanently. Perhaps it could be moved to the image's talk page? I was about to do so, but couldn't figure out which picture you were talking about. Thanks, Rad Racer | Talk 02:32, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Featured picture: rat 'kittens' vs. 'pups
Today's 'Cat' featured picture writes that rat babies are called kittens. In the U.S. (west coast) I've only heard rat babies be called 'pups'. Perhaps this is a dialectic discrepancy?--Nectarflowed (talk) 03:33, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I've only heard them called "pups" also, but there is no shortage of Google hits that support the "kitten" name as well. Could they both be correct? – ClockworkSoul 03:51, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Asian American
Thank you for taking care of this article. Re the link to Wing Luke Asian Museum: I agree that it probably shouldn't be linked directly from this page. But my question is: You wrote that it can be accessed by category. Now call me stupid – i've been on Wikipedia for quite a while, but i don't see a straightforward way to get there (other than the detour over Category: U.S. ethnic groups, which is not intuitive for someone who would want to find this museum). Am i overlooking something? Are you aware of a category (or overarching article) that might fit? &mdash; S e b a s ti a n  ( T ) 09:07, 2005 Apr 22 (UTC)

Category:Asian-American-related topics
I propose we move this category to Category:Asian American-related topics, removing the hyphen between Asian and American. Using a hyphen emphasizes duality and should be used to describe things such as foreign relations between two nations, for example, Japanese-American relations. When describing people we should not use a hyphen. "Asian" is an adjective describing the American. Using the hyphen is a bad representation because it creates the notion of a hybrid. What do you think? &mdash; J3ff 03:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * The proper place to put a category move is Categories for deletion, see #5 at Categories for deletion. I've created an entry for this category move here; please leave a comment on that page. &mdash; J3ff 11:04, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

James Cameron
In Britain he has a reputation for being anti-British, or more precisely anti-English; not sure how well founded that feeling is. There were mutterings in response to Braveheart, too, compounded by feelings that its star, Mel Gibson, is very anti-English. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 09:11, 13 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I think your edit was fine--just thought you probably didn't understand where the previous editor was coming from. I have found no factual basis for the allegations of bias, it's all circumstantial, from interpretations of the movie's iconography--David Warner as the thuggish English manservant guarding an imprisoned Leonardo DiCaprio with his revolver, the (fictitious) representation of one of the officers, William McMaster Murdoch, as corrupt, homicidal and cowardly, and so on.  However English actors often play villains in Hollywood movies and many of the people on the Titanic were English so it's not a strong indication of national bias here. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 10:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Conversations
Hi Keetoowah, I'm glad to have been working with you on the stem cells article for this time. I've noticed, though, that your discussion entries seem to tend to be longer than is needed, and tend to make accusations. See you around, --Nectarflowed T 10:09, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Dear Nectarflowed: I did not know that you were the person that made the decision for everyone working on Wikipedia whether it is too long or too short.  Thanks for helping me there.-Keetoowah 13:06, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Race and intelligence
Dividing the population by "race" is just one way of dividing the population. If you were to divide the population by nutrition and the same disparity shows up how is it a "racial" disparity? This disparity is abstract and has nothing to do with descriptive words used to explain it. Framing this abstract disparity only in racial terms seems to me to be an attempt at confusing cause and effect. Repetition is combined with this cause and effect confusion to trick the mind into only thinking about the abstract disparity in racial terms, over time this wears people down into assuming that the only method of division used to describe the abstract disparity is the cause for that disparity. That is wrong. Why needlessly confuse cause and effect unless there is a purpose in mind? Neutrality is the prime directive of wikipedia and that includes the neutrality of language used to present a subject. zen master   T  21:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Race and intelligence

 * Why ask me? I have no particular editorial authority. All I wanted was to get the personal attacks to stop. The way I selected for that was (perhaps) different form the way some other person might have chosen. Most people just want to be listened to. And I've been working on and off with R & I for over 3 years at Wikipedia. Take a look at the page history back to the beginning for topics like race, The Bell Curve, etc., and you'll find my name - especially on the talk pages. Huh? I'm rambling? Sorry. Where were we? Right, I like your idea about having the user express their opinions on the talk page. Sure wish I had thought of it first! -- Uncle Ed (talk) 02:29, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)


 * Also, what's up with "personal attacks removed"? I can't figure out how or why you did that (not that I object, of course :-) -- Uncle Ed (talk) 13:31, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)


 * "Dear Ed, [...] You locked a page and you didn't put a page lock message in the article. [...] You went to Maryam Rajavi page, and didn't take one quick look at when the disputes started and why and who is who? --195.29.186.146 (personal attacks removed by Nectarflowed)"


 * Above is puzzling, yet pleasant. Please elucidate, o liquid one! -- Uncle Ed (talk) 13:31, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * I removed the anon's inappropriate personal attacks and left a note to explain the ellipses. I left my name so he would know who did it if he came back and was concerned that his words were censored.  Hope it was ok :) Nectarflowed T 19:45, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Cool! It's like a have a fan club or something. I liked your copy-edit at IQ test controversy, too. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 00:56, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

Arnold
I hope you realise I was just moving some text down that had inappropriately been placed in the introduction. Glad to see it properly contextualized. Cheers, -Willmcw July 4, 2005 10:16 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw :) Thanks for making sure.--Nectarflowed T 4 July 2005 10:27 (UTC)

Stem cells
Dear Nectraflowed, I hope you realise that this is close to becoming an edit war and that you are dangerously near making the same edits on more than 3 occasions within the past 24 hours. I hope that we can resolve this situation in an amicable manner. Over time I will of course be seeking a peer review of the article.--CJ 4 July 2005 11:36 (UTC)
 * Hi CJ. I have made two explained reversions in the past 24 hours, and have brought up the concern on the talk page.  If your contribution is disputed, I believe it may be best to resolve it on the talk page before inserting it in the article multiple times.  I have been managing this article for a very long time, and welcome help with that task.  Yes, a peer review would be desireable.--Nectarflowed T 4 July 2005 11:43 (UTC)

RE: “Please familiarize yourself with the topic before making unfounded claims.”

This patronising attitude doesn't suit you. I thought you were better than that.--CJ 4 July 2005 20:36 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry CJ. That's not how I meant to come off.  Since nobody has posted after me yet, I've remove the comment from my post.  Please let me know if you think I should instead put a strike through it.  Best, Nectarflowed T 4 July 2005 20:44 (UTC)

CSD expansion proposal
Your vote counts! ps. you probably already know this, but is for the template for speedy deletion and there is a handy space to include a reason! Peregrine AY  5 July 2005 11:16 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder.--Nectarflowed T 5 July 2005 11:37 (UTC)