User talk:Ned Scott/Archive 16

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Mediation at WP:FICT
I'm suggesting we ask for mediation to help build teh guidance at Notability (fiction). What I propose is that a mediator be the only person to edit the project page itself and be the one to guide discussion and discern consensus. I've proposed it at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction). As a past participant in the lengthy debates, I'd appreciate your input and hopefully your agreement. Hiding T 10:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey there.
I saw this and laughed. It's strange to see you so inactive. Hope things are going well for you. --MZMcBride (talk) 07:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hoping to find a balance between Wikipedia and real life :) -- Ned Scott 11:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

C'mon, Ned
There is no such category, and never will be, since all Wikipedians fall into that category. It's pointless and inappropriate to keep restoring it. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I restored the category. It's a personal statement by a Wikipedian, and that it's true of all Wikipedians is irrelevant. I read it as "I'm like you, I put my shoes on one foot at a time." The Category itself was deleted in 2006, I have no comment on that. Well, there are words that come, unbidden, into my mind, but I won't write them. Ned, your call, it's your user page, and the cat is harmless at worst. --Abd (talk) 16:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's fairly firmly established that users may categorize themselves in categories that don't have a corresponding category description page. Off the top of my head, Category:Rouge admins comes to mind. As long as the category doesn't attack an editor or imply a role not held ("Oversighters that poop"), I don't see an issue here. --MZMcBride (talk) 16:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought I was required by WP:COI and WP:BLP to disclose this information! -- Ned Scott 06:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed community ban of NYScholar
Hello. You have previously commented on issues related to User:NYScholar. I have just proposed that NYScholar be community banned here. I am contacting you partly because your participation in the discussion would be welcome, but also because I have referred to your past comments, and want to give you the chance to ensure that I am not misconstruing them or using them out of context. Best, Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 07:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Your concerns
This and this point to answers for your questions. Short version: in one arbitration he resigned his ops and retired under a cloud; shortly after retirement a second case opened in which his conduct would have been examined if he hadn't retired. The Committee required him to contact them if he wished to return to editing at a topic. Afterward a new account became active at the topic, got blocked for actions there, and disrupted a featured article candidate. The new account turned out to be Jossi.  Durova Charge! 15:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing
Hi, this may be a valid issue, but I think you need to provide more information on how noindexing would cause those problems. Aren't these wiki sites using database dumps? Excluding userpages from those dumps doesn't seem to be an option, and certainly isn't affected by noindexing. And Wikipedia search will still be available for manual searches by users of those sites. Disembrangler (talk) 07:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Some use database dumps, some export individual files using special:export, some just copy and paste then attribute via template or by copy/pasting the edit history to the talk page. Using Wikipedia search doesn't help the guy who's hunting down information that might have come from Wikipedia or not, but doesn't know ahead of time.


 * For example, lets say you are looking for the author of a userscript that you're using that just got broken on your wiki. Searching the name of that script will most likely lead you to their user page of the wiki they're most active on. -- Ned Scott 07:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but it would be better I think to edit your statement rather than tack this exchange on. No-one's endorsed it yet, and it'll be clearer. (And it is permitted.) Also on a point of substance: can you give examples of wikis importing things from lots of sources, so that tracking a userscript would really be a problem? I mean wikiX using Wikipedia and adapting it doesn't seem to create a massive detective problem. How many wikis use many sources? Disembrangler (talk) 07:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Kashimashi: Girl Meets Girl Good Article Reassessment
As a major contributor to Kashimashi: Girl Meets Girl, I thought you'd want to know that that article is currently under going a Good Article Reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps. The article currently fails the good article criteria, as detailed at Talk:Kashimashi: Girl Meets Girl/GA1. Its reassessment is on hold for seven days to allow time for the issues to be addressed. Very few issues found, so should be a quick fix :) Thanks. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 17:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit request
editsemiprotected Could someone please do a null edit of User:Ned Scott? Click edit this page, click save - no edit summary required, no edit may be made. Will not show up in history. Necessary to clear malformed request at the bottom of this bot-maintained page (malformed request will disappear on the next update - made every 30 minutes). Thanks. This section can be deleted after the null edit is performed. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 02:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. Message left so he knows why. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 02:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Huh, that's strange. I wonder why my userpage was listed as a request at all. Thanks for the heads up, I think, since I'm.. not exactly sure.. what's... where am I? -- Ned Scott 03:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The reason you (Collectonian) could delete this section is that a null edit does not show up in history, and so Ned would never even know that you did the null edit. Unless he looked at the history of this talk page. Your (Ned's) userpage was listed at WP:RM because someone combined a WP:RM request with an RFC request, and the RM got copied to the RFC, making WP:RFC show on WP:RM. In two places. I did a null edit to WP:RFC to make it go away from there, but your page had a mirror and was semi-protected. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 04:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, that explains it. I thought it might have something to do with the RFC transclusions. Thanks 199. -- Ned Scott 11:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

quick hello
LOL. A somewhat more discriminate category would be Category:Wikipedians that admit to having pooped. At any rate, good to see you're still active. 78.34.252.95 (talk) 01:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I guess o.O -- Ned Scott 03:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

re: WP:NOTPLOT
Good morning. You recently made a cogent and articulate comment at WT:NOT on the topic of plot summaries. Would you consider joining the effort at Plot-only description of fictional works?

The goal is to more fully explain all the nuance and detail about dealing with plot summaries without bloating WP:NOT any more than it already is. In that regard, this page is intended to parallel WP:WINAD, a drill-down page which very successfully elaborates on and clarifies WP:NOTDICDEF.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have. Rossami (talk) 14:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll check it out and see if I have any thoughts to share. -- Ned Scott 03:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Requests for comment/User page indexing
Please note Requests for comment/User page indexing has been repurposed from the standard RFC format it was using into a strraw poll format. Please re-visit the RFC to ensure that your previous endorsement(s) are represented in the various proposals and endorse accordingly.
 * Notice delivery by  xenobot 14:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * What a horrible train wreak. -- Ned Scott 03:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Amen. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been talking with gigs, and moved the last section to the talk page at his request. Feel free to revert me, or to add support to position 8 (which should be sort of equivalent to the support position you put down before), or what have you.

In the mean time, we can see if we can try to reach a consensus on what actions to take on the talk page? It would be good to have some experienced wikipedians help out. I think it's important to assert some positive control on the wiki, to help people to remain franchised and productive.

--Kim Bruning (talk) 12:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This comment is way out of line. I'm sure the community will manage just fine without your "control". Gigs (talk) 13:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Without knowing what kind of "control" you don't know whether it's out of line or not :-). There's nothing wrong with experienced wikipedians keeping an eye on processes and consensus and etc! That's part of the community doing just fine, I'm sure! If you think there is a problem there, could you explain why? --Kim Bruning (talk) 15:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ned's user page is not an appropriate place to have this conversation. We'll talk later. Gigs (talk) 16:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * --Kim Bruning (talk) 16:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability and fiction
Notability and fiction (shortcut WP:NAF) has been drafted per the general consensus at the recent RFC to which you contributed. You are invited to review the essay and to edit it in an attempt to generate a consensus regarding the issue. Hiding T 10:08, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

List_of_characters_in_Digimon_Adventure
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You are much more knowledgeable about copyright law stuff like this than I am. Please take a look at this and the discussion on the talk page (also at User talk:J Milburn, and this bit on my talk page). If you think any of the images should remain, please discuss it with them, if you agree with them, I trust your decision; however, I will not continue to discuss with them if they won't even acknowledge that I'm talking. Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 04:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to apologize for any flak you caught in that discussion, and I'm extremely grateful that you stepped in to discuss with them.
 * In case you're interested, we've set up a forum and Featured Article system at Digimon Wiki, and Lanate and me have been working hard on filling out the articles with the applicable information. We haven't seen you there in a while, and we (at least, me) certainly miss you. Hope you're enjoying yourself with whichever projects or even, real-life efforts(!) you're working on now. Cheers!68.94.192.235 (talk) 08:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Leomon
An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Leomon. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Articles for deletion/Leomon. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ).

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Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Council/Proposals/TRANSWIKI
Hi you might be interested in joining the discussion or the project. We need a project name and at present the one which you created for outgoing material shares the same name. I wondered if we could change the naming and organize something? Dr. Blofeld     White cat 09:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Transwiki on en.wiki typically means to move content from one wiki to another, which is what WikiProject Transwiki does. Even without the WikiProject it would be very confusing to a lot of editors, as it is still a technical term used through out the WikiMedia projects (for example, WP:TRANSWIKI, Help:Transwiki, etc). It would make more sense to choose another name for the school involvement project. -- Ned Scott 11:24, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, for some reason my screen jumped to the bottom half of that discussion. -- Ned Scott 11:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

While I'm not totally opposed to renaming the project I started, I couldn't help but think a project already existed for what you are proposing. I don't know if they're active much anymore, but WikiProject Echo is likely what you are looking for. -- Ned Scott 11:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Where is the consensus to completely change the name of the project? Dr. Blofeld     White cat 08:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You gave your project the same name as WP:WikiProject Transwiki, took over the redirect, and ignored the very discussion you started with me about the issue. Placing the name in all caps is not an acceptable method of disambiguation for a WikiProject, and breaks basic naming conventions. -- Ned Scott 08:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not opoosed to the move, I quite like the name actually, as long as you ensure all of the categories are renamed and the links in the pages started to date read as Intertranswiki I don't mind. As long as you fully replace TRANSWIKI with Intertransiki on each page and change the name of the templates made so far too. Dr. Blofeld     White cat 08:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget to move the two pages Painters and Writers in WikiProject Intertranswiki/Polish/Culture and recategorze the sub pages of Poland. There is also one under Spanish culture started too. See Category:WikiProject TRANSWIKI Dr. Blofeld      White cat 08:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

The Big O GAR
As a major contributor to The Big O, I thought you'd want to know that that article is currently under going a Good Article Reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps. The article currently fails the good article criteria, as detailed at Talk:The Big O/GA1. Its reassessment is on hold for seven days to allow time for the issues to be addressed. Thanks. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 01:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

2012 Election Need Your Feedback
I noticed you were a regular editor on the 2008 election page. Myself and other editors are odds on some edits we are trying to make to the page. Since you have already been involved in probably similar discussion, we would greatly appreciate hearing your feedback on the 2012 election discussion page under the Republicans and Ruled Out discussions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Republicans.3F

David1982m (talk • contribs) 20:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC).


 * I think you might be mistaken. -- Ned Scott 06:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Japanese track list
Hello, it's me again. Recently, I went through all the articles that were using this template for the track lists and replaced them with the more standard and streamlined Tracklist. Had Tracklist existed at the time, I doubt I would have proposed the creation of Japanese track list, and as irony would have it, Tracklist was created less than a month after Japanese track list was. Since no articles now use Japanese track list, and it's basically obsolete in comparison to Tracklist, I wanted to inform you that I intend on putting the template on WP:TFD as long as I have your approval.--  十  八  04:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine with me. -- Ned Scott 05:07, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Please update your status with WP:VG
Dear WikiProject Video games member,

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The Video games project has created a member list to provide a clearer picture of its active membership.

All members have currently been placed in the "Inactive" section by default. Please remove your username from the "Inactive" listing and place it under the "Active" listing if you plan on regularly:
 * Editing video game-related pages in the Article namespace
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 * —WikiProject Video games (delivery by  xenobot 03:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Templates for deletion nomination of Template:Digimon Wiki
Template:Digimon Wiki has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 03:05, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:WikiProject LOE
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Thanks. RL0919 (talk) 12:29, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Ned Scott/Wikinfo
User:Ned Scott/Wikinfo, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ned Scott/Wikinfo and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Ned Scott/Wikinfo during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. <font style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;"> Sandstein  19:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Phoenix meetup
Hey there! Just wanted to direct your attention to the Phoenix meetup page, where we are planning a meet and greet for early December. It is a weeknight due to scheduling difficulties around the holidays. We will plan a weekend meetup early in 2010. --Spike Wilbury (talk) 17:51, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Another gentle ping from WP:VG
Dear Ned Scott,

You are receiving this message because either <tt>[[:Category:WikiProject Video games members]]</tt> or is somewhere in your userspace, and you are currently listed in the "Unknown" section on the project's member list.

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 * Edit video game-related pages in the Article namespace
 * Participate in video game-related discussions in the Project namespace (WT:VG, WP:AfD, WP:GAN, etc.)

Members listed in the "Unknown" section will be removed from the membership list and category at the end of January 2010. You may re-add yourself to the active list at any time. Thank you for your help, and we look forward to working with you.

Sincerely, the Video Games WikiProject (delivery by <font face="Verdana"> xenobot 21:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Consider the template pack, and/or .css and .js examples?
Could you please consider making the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transwiki template pack, and/or updating the .css and .js examples for use in MediaWiki wikis? Those of us attempting to set up a new MediaWiki site using Wikipedia templates need help with the details. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:09, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I have time soon. It's one of those things that's been nagging me in the back of my head that I've always wanted to get done :D -- Ned Scott 12:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Upper Peninsula War
I've protected your Upper Peninsula War page; it appears that some people have thought it an actual article (it's periodically edited), so I want to make it obvious to any reader that it's a hoax. If you want to edit it for any reason, tell me and I'll unprotect it. Nyttend (talk) 23:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Thanks for the heads up! -- Ned Scott 12:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Bot Question
I have no idea how to make bots, so I'm not sure if this is even possible, but if it is, I'm sure you would know how to go about doing something like this. Every article on Wikipedia except the subconscious page should not have the word "subconscious" in it. It's an incorrect and irritating term for the unconscious. I've noticed this word recently, and I can imagine there are many more uses of it on the site. Is there a way to program a bot that searches and automatically replaces "subconscious" with "unconscious" in every article but one? PÆonU (talk) 09:43, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be very easy. The best way to go about it would be making a request at Bot requests. Bots have changed too much since I've last used them, and I am currently unable to do the task myself without taking some time to relearn some things. However, I'm sure the the bot request page will guide you in the right direction, and to a person with a bot that can help. -- Ned Scott 13:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Online Ambassadors program
Hi Ned. I know you haven't been as active lately as in the past, but in case you plan on jumping back in any time soon (i.e., the upcoming Fall or Spring semesters), I wanted to invite you to apply for the Wikipedia Online Ambassadors program, which is closely related to WikiProject Classroom coordination. It's part of a project the Wikimedia Foundation is doing to get professors and students more involved with editing, and Online Ambassadors will be helping coordinate assignments and help students who are assigned to edit. Cheers! --Sross (Public Policy) (talk) 13:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds like a great project! If I have some free time I'll check it out. -- Ned Scott 10:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

VPC
— <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;"> raeky T  23:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Test template in your userspace
While checking up on deprecated links to Infobox animanga, I noticed this test template in your userspace that you have edited since 2006. If you have not further intentions of working on the test template, you may want to consider having it deleted by tagging it with db-user. —Farix (t &#124; c) 02:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I generally just blank or change my sandbox pages, since they contain history for several different things. I've done so already. -- Ned Scott 13:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WP DIGI welcome message
Template:WP DIGI welcome message has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. —Farix (t &#124; c) 01:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Digimon
Template:WikiProject Digimon has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Stagecraft Newsletter
Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Stagecraft at 13:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC).

Phoenix meetup on the 15th?
All the Wikipedia Ten celebrations are being hosted on the 15th, so it seems like a good time to host a Phoenix meetup. Would you be able to make it? Brandon (talk) 06:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * very possibly. -- Ned Scott 08:15, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Please join the discussion on Wikipedian Cirt's user talk page. -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 17:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Mesa Distance Learning Program
Since you are in Arizona could you please help me expand this article to dyk standards. Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 20:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do. I believe I have some family that is actually a teacher in that school district, so they could probably give me some good info. -- Ned Scott 00:56, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:Test0
Decisions at TfD can only be overturned by WP:Deletion review. --Bsherr (talk) 03:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Deletions can only be overturned by deletion review. Reverting a redirection does not require a TfD. Use some common sense. I've got several previous discussions including other TfDs that kept those templates despite some users calling it "redundant". I doubt Test0 would have been redirected had anyone said anything during that last TfD, and was only redirected because no one was aware of this previous situation that old test templates are kept for users who prefer them. -- Ned Scott 09:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright alright, I'll at least bring it up with the admin who closed the TfD and ask him what he thinks I should do. I don't want to make anyone angry here over a silly old test template. -- Ned Scott 09:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Category:Episode list using the default LineColor
Hi, Ned. Long-time. Per the above diff, I'd like to point you at this discussion. See the following section re this category, too. Cheers, Jack Merridew 22:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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commons:Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests

thanks for the note!!! i am not going to get involved in that debate.. per the messages on my talk page by one of the people involved in the oversighting. Decora (talk) 00:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject MfDs
Hopefully you'll be aware of this by now, but please please please stop nominating WikiProjects simply because they're inactive. It has long been established that we do not delete inactive WikiProjects unless they have virtually no real content or discussion. That is the whole reason we have the inactive tag for WikiProjects, and why WP:MfD says to tag them as inactive and not delete them. It might not seem like anything to you, but it's one of those things that the community at large has decided we should keep, just like talk page archives and past proposals. Many of these pages also contain relevant information to people who need to find sources on those topics or find out the reasons behind past decisions like mergers and such. -- Ned Scott 09:51, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * We've been through this before. It's been repeatedly explained that inactivity is not the sole criteria for nomination. Nor is nomination solely for the purpose of deletion. Please write to the Mfd and not to my userpage. I'd appreciate it you looked at each individual Mfd on a case by case basis, and did not cut and paste the same comment on all of them. I respect your opinion but please argue it in a cogent and constructive way. Thank you. -- Klein  zach  09:58, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * While for a lot of them I only had the same thing to say, I did look at each one individually. I apologies if I did not catch some of your other reasons for deletion, and if you notice I did not just !vote to keep all WikiProject MfDs (there were a lot of them, so I just commented on the ones I thought should be kept, rather than also commenting on ones I thought should be deleted). Even some of the ones I still thought should be kept I was on the fence about and do not fault you for bringing to MfD. However, there were enough nominations that were clearly inappropriate for deletion that you either nominated yourself or had supported that I wanted to bring this to your attention. I wasn't sure if maybe you just didn't know that most of the time we slap an inactive tag on ones that were once active, but if this is simply a case were we disagree then I respect that and I mean no disrespect. -- Ned Scott 10:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been nominating projects that died around 2005/2008. The Mfds I put up either had existing inactive tags or were long gone. I do use the semi-active/inactive/historical tags. -- Klein zach  10:27, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Just for FYI if the project has some history and is deleted its not a huge loss. The WikiProject Council archives all the WikiProject histories. Im not sure how often but they do. --Kumioko (talk) 11:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not believe that is true. The only mention of archiving that WP:COUNCIL does that I could find talks about temporarily archiving that does not include edit histories (and perhaps other things) at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Inactive projects. The fact of the matter is that many of these deletions shouldn't he happening in the first place. -- Ned Scott 12:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * But what makes 2005-2008 so special that you must go after them for deletion when they do have history and are already tagged inactive? Some of these MfDs even had past MfDs were the conclusion was to keep them even though they were inactive. Nothing has changed since then, and even though 2005 might seem like a long time ago, it's still something that we normally keep on Wikipedia. -- Ned Scott 12:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Panorama Welding
Hi, Ned. A few days ago, you voted at MfD to keep this page. I subsequently reviewed it (and its talk page) and agreed that there was information worth preserving. At first, I voted to keep the page and rename it, but through subsequent discussion, the nominator (Kleinzach) and I have come to an agreement that the information should be preserved through a merge into Picture tutorial. Given these developments, I'd appreciate it if you'd take a second look at the MfD and let us know what you think of the idea of merging this material. Thanks in advance, A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 17:42, 5 April 2011 (UTC)