User talk:Neddyseagoon/Feb to May 06

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Guy Henry
Nice article about Guy Henry, however: Yes. I'm a beginner user. So far as I know - difficult to find ones with definite licence tags one way or the other -- RHaworth 20:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * can you assure me that it is entirly your effort and not a copyvio from somewhere else?
 * why have you used external link format when you should be using wikilinks? I have done the first two for you - now do the rest!
 * can you assure me that you have put valid lisence tags on all the images you have uploaded? I have tagged Image:Parolles.jpg as a distinct copyvio. I will leave you to review the matter before I check the rest.

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I have deleted Template:Press release photo which was an unwanted fork of Template:Promophoto. -- RHaworth 19:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Guy Henry
Nice article about Guy Henry, however: Yes. I'm a beginner user. So far as I know - difficult to find ones with definite licence tags one way or the other -- RHaworth 20:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * can you assure me that it is entirly your effort and not a copyvio from somewhere else?
 * why have you used external link format when you should be using wikilinks? I have done the first two for you - now do the rest!
 * can you assure me that you have put valid lisence tags on all the images you have uploaded? I have tagged Image:Parolles.jpg as a distinct copyvio. I will leave you to review the matter before I check the rest.

Traverse, fortification
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Harriet Walter
I agree this article should be kept. I removed the speedy delete tag and added more material, including categories. There's a lot more cleanup that needs to be done. I'll do some of that now. --Durin 14:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Roman roads to or from Rome itself
These roads are called Consular roads; you should probably rename the category. Bill 19:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Roman roads in Greece/Macedonia
This sounds like overcategorization. The category currently contains 1 item, and it is not going to grow much. The "Roman Roads in the Eastern Empire" category is adequate. Regards sys &lt; in 19:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Triumphal arches (modern, European and Russian)
This is not how the categories are named in Wikipedia. I'm going to propose this category for renaming, as its current title seems to presume that Moscow and St Petersburg (where the Russian arches are situated) are not parts of Europe. --Ghirla | talk 10:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Categories
N, your intentions are commendable, but you may want to rethink your strategy a bit. The hierarchy of both the Roman Arches and the Roman Roads categories is way too deep, ending up in subcategories with only a few items in it. Categories are supposed to help people find related things; the categories you've set up make that harder by requiring too much navigation and hiding the big picture.

There is no set number for when a category is too small or too big, but I believe that unless there are more than 100 Roman roads or 100 Roman Arches, they should all be grouped in the same category. Please consider this input and ask a few more wikipedians on the matter.

Plus, with fewer categories to maintain, you’ll have more time to add content to the articles themselves.

Regards,

sys &lt; in 14:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Categories
Yes, point taken. I'll have them in the Arches/Roads categ as well as the subcategs when I have the time neddyseagoonNeddyseagoon 14:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Since you asked for my advice: When it comes to categories, think from the top down. Group all like things together. When that list becomes too unwieldy (over 100 items), then break it up at the next highest possible level(s) you can think of. Leave things that are not numerous enough in the main category. So, Start at "Roman Monuments", not at "Roman Arches in Northern France".

My guess is that you only need one "Roman Arches" category, and one "Roman Roads" category.

Regards, sys &lt; in 08:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Take care
Once again, please read all about WP:CAT, WP:CG, Categorization FAQ before spawning new categories. Why both words in Category:Basilica Churches have capital letters? It is completely out of line with other cats we have. You know, the cats are not deleted so easily, we need a consensus for that. So please think twice before starting a new cat. —Ghirla | talk 07:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Also please remove this talk page from all the cats listed below. It is really confusing. --—Ghirla | talk 07:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

San Giorgio al Velabro
As regards San Giorgio al Velabro article, I noticed it is a copy of the pages at www.oscgeneral.org/sgiorgio.html. What is the copyright of those pages? You must be sure that they can be freely copied and modified, before putting them in wikipedia. --Panairjdde 10:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I noticed that some portions of the article are taken directly from the site. I did not check the whole article, however. In any case, you must check copyright before copying the text in wikipedia, not after. You can answer here, I am watching this page. --Panairjdde 16:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Point taken - will be more careful in future. Only a user for a month or so, still getting used to it. Neddyseagoon 16:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon

Museum of the Roman Civilization
Hi. This article you created is completely blank (apart from a stub tag). It could be speedy deleted for that reason, but I thought I'd ask you first if you plan to add any information to the article. --Malthusian (talk) 12:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm hoping to add more, a little now, but much more once I've dug out my guidebooks for the museums that make it up, which might take a little while.

Neddyseagoon 14:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon


 * Link into Fascist Italy or some such perhaps? Neddyseagoon 14:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)Neddyseagoon


 * It would be a good idea to at least write "The Museum of the Roman Civilisation is a museum of X in the city of Y which (interesting fact you can remember off-hand goes here)" or a similar short paragraph, so it's an actual stub and not a blank page. --Malthusian (talk) 16:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear Neddyseagoon, I am very pleased of your collaboration to Wikipedia, and of your interest in Rome, but please, take a rest and be more careful in your edits.

Apart the copyright problem of San Giorgio al Velabro (you still need to provide an explanation of the image copyright),
 * It seems to be a watercolour by a dead artist, hence the 100yrs tag Neddyseagoon 16:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon
 * Are you sure? Can you prove it? You have the responsability to check if it is suitable for Wikipedia or not.--Panairjdde 17:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * there is the double page about the Museo della Civiltà Romana: Museum of Roman Civilization and Museum of the Roman Civilization.
 * Corrected Neddyseagoon 16:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon
 * Really? Your redirect of Museum of the Roman Civilization was wrong, while Museum of Roman Civilization still has random text at the beginning. If you had took your time to check Wikipedia documentation pages, you would have noticed the existence of a "Show preview" button, whose role is to allow you to check if everything is ok before saving the page. --Panairjdde 17:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * You need to check the manual of style for wikipedia articles. For example, Museum of Roman Civilization fails to comply to wp stiles, since it is missing the name of the article in bold in the first paragraph (see Museum of the Roman Civilization for comparison).
 * Done Neddyseagoon 16:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon
 * I am not trying to push you down, but the image in the page still miss a caption, which is required for such images.--Panairjdde 17:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Let me also notice that I have the impression your sources are a bit outdated. In the same article you states that the museum is currently closed - which is not -
 * Well, it was last time I went, but that was many years ago - you have the advantage of local knowledge! :-) Neddyseagoon 16:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon


 * and that is on the outskirts of Rome, which is arguable.
 * Well, it is, relative to, say, the forum or Colosseum, or from a tourist's point of view. Point taken though.Neddyseagoon 16:48, 23 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon

I want to restate that I appreciate your contributions, but you need to understand how WP works.
 * Still learning! :-) Am going to print off most of the How to pages for bedtime reading cos, as you say, I need a rest Neddyseagoon 16:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon

Best wishes, Panairjdde 16:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * (For Malthusian: I removed your note about formatting, because it was impossible for me to answer without re-formatting Neddyseagoon answer. Feel free to reintroduce your notice and/or remove this last contribution of mine--Panairjdde 17:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:user en-me-1
Could you explain the purpose of this userbox that you created? It is currently up for deletion and the crowd at TfD is scratching its collective head at what the box is supposed to mean. —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 01:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I was trying to create a set of languag templates for Chaucerian middle English, but it's still a work in progress. Deserves deletion, I agree, until I can come back to it/put it up in its perfect form

Bishop of Sodor and Mann
Since when was Sodor and Mann a diocis in Wales? It is in the isle of man not wales!! Please revert your edit.Manxy3 16:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * oops, my lousy geography! Sorry

Roman History?
I saw you were trying to salvage the Caesar's civil war page. I was wondering, have you thought of participating in the Military History Wikiproject, or more specifically the Classical warfare task force of that project? We can always use more people :) - Vedexent 03:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for the invitation - looks right up my via! :-) neddyseagoonNeddyseagoon 18:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Julio-Claudian Box
Hi, Neddy. Did you create the Julio-Claudian box? It's way too large with too much extraneous info. There are already two succession boxes (or more) at the bottom of the articles. If you made a template like the first box on Henry VIII, it would look really nice and give a lot of info about the article subject up front. Having all the emperors and their children listed doesn't add anything to the article intro - none them were related in a direct line as with the English royals. Thanks for your time.LaurenCole 05:08, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

The info-box you put on Augustus looks great! It can probably replace the succession boxes at the bottom. However, I'm still skeptical about the dynasty box - it seems out of place at the top of the article (when under the infobox it displaces the text of the article - rather than adding to the top summary). A link to the dynasty page in the infobox for the emperor might suffice. Alternately, the dynasty box can be put at the bottom where the succession boxes are. Perhaps the emperors in the dynasty could be listed horizontally to save space (like the Lives of the Twelve Caesars box). Again, good work on the infobox! LaurenCole 05:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Strange pipes
You seem to be doing some rather strangely-formatted mass-changes to links dealing with Seutonius' Lives of the Twelve Caesars, as seen in this edit. Wikipedia internal-link style prefers that readers have to click a link that takes them somewhere unexpected or surprising, and that we not be coy about pipe-links and hide relevant information within them. I would have fully supported directly mentioning the specific work of Seutonius' that is being referenced in List of Latin phrases, but removing the link to Seutonius seems highly unnecessary; there's plenty of room to mention both the author and the work.

Also, a more serious problem: Lives of the Twelve Caesars, as you've noted in Talk:Lives of the Twelve Caesars, is a redirect to Suetonius currently. You should most certainly create an article for Lives of the Twelve Caesars before linking to it from hundreds of articles, not after! Your changes will be difficult and painstaking to reverse if there is a consensus that we should simply leave that work merged into Suetonius (which I've yet to see you make any reasoning or argument for), whereas simply being patient and creating the page and letting us discuss whether to split it off from Suetonius or not is vastly preferable. But either way, hiding "Lives of the Twelve Caesars" within the "Suetonius" link (as Suetonius ) is a terrible idea and very poor Wikipedia linking and editing style. Please stop immediately. -Silence 22:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 and the reversion of your edit(s)
Hello, Neddyseagoon. You may have noticed User:Tawkerbot2 reverted one or more of your edits and perhaps left a message on your talk page. Wikipedia recently experienced a database malfunction, causing Tawkerbot2 to misidentify legitimate edits; hence the reversion of your edit(s) and the message. The bot has been temporarily disabled until the problems are rectified. Thanks. &mdash;Wayward Talk 16:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:Wars of Carthage
We don't really want to start with by-country campaignboxes (imagine the size of, say, the French one); why not just create Category:Wars of Carthage to match all the other national war categories? Kirill Lok s hin 16:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Good idea - I spotted the Mercenary War - will give it Punic Wars box.  16:24, 24 March 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon
 * That works; you might want to add a link to the war into the campaignbox as well. Incidentally, try not to get too carried away with creating subsections on the campaignbox list; anything five levels down is probably too small to be very useful at this point ;-) Kirill Lok s hin 17:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiChevrons
I hereby present you with the Military history WikiProject Distinguished Service Award for your contributions to the Wikipedia and the Military history WikiProject, specifically to the Classical warfare task force. - Vedexent 21:42, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Aw shucks. Thanks. Neddyseagoon 21:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon

Latin translation request
Can you translate a short bit of Latin at Robert Adams (architect)? Please put it right in the article. &mdash; 0918 BRIAN &bull; 2006-03-25 09:35

Gladiator Ref
I notice on your user page your interest in Gladiators. I have a reference question regarding Gladiators: Do you know of a good reference for Roman gladiators that lists the types or classes of Gladiators? I have a reference for such on the Third Servile War page (pointing out that it is difficult to tell the real ethnicity of Spartacus and Crixus as Thracian and Gauls are types of gladiators), but all I have to back that up is a website. A published reference would be better. Any ideas? Thanks :) - Vedexent 23:21, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Urbainczyk, Theresa, 1960-: Spartacus / Theresa Urbainczyk..

Bristol : Bristol Classical, 2004.. 144 p. :  map ;   22 cm.. Ancients in action.

and



suggest themselves, though I don't have them on me at the moment. Re Spartacus and Crixus - those nationalities do actually fit where the Roman army was campaigning during the time Spartacus would have been captured. Indeed, it's Plutarch I think who records Spartacus as having served in the Roman army, and then been enslaved into a gladiatorial role.

The catalogue for this BM exhibition is also a good reference work and, though it doesn't have a list, it should be fairly easy to compile one from it.


 * Or there's always Gladiator

That doesn't quite answer it, but hope it goes some way towards it. Neddyseagoon 10:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon

Castle stub
I think something went wrong when you tried to create template:castle-stub. It's a good idea for a stub, can you make it work? Stevage 15:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's a very BAD idea for a stub - structures are usually primarily split by location, and this stub type was never formally proposed, either. It's been nominated for deletion at WP:SFD. Grutness...wha?  14:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

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 * Thanks. I'm a relative beginner, and haven't improved at images much since then.  Could you delete all those, and I'll clear up the mess, take my own photos where that leaves a gap etc.  - will be easier than trying to revise case by case. Neddyseagoon 20:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon


 * It's easy to get confused, I understand. I wish there were a way for uploaded images to get reviewed more quickly, so new users could get feedback sooner.  —Steven G. Johnson 21:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

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Temple of Caesar
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Portland Vase Image
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Dubris
Hello, I'm a Dovorian who lives by the Castle when not at uni and used to volunteer at the Romain Painted House. I added a bit more onto the Dubris page under that section, if you want or need any more information that I could help with, let me know! I'll get an account one day, too. --Fish.

Survey on the use of Latinized/Greek names for Byzantine rulers
Hi. There is a survey on the names of Byzantine rulers at Talk:Constantine XI. Maybe you are interested in.--Panairjdde 13:10, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Ancient Greek Wikisource
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Neddy! You are still with us, praise the lord!
I had thought that you had succumbed and fallen in the water drowing like a cat.

What's that Mort-i-mer, it nearly happend to you after the death of your favorite arab?

Yes, He got snarled up in a ying tong diddle eye po.

A Po you say. Not from Po-Land by any chance?

The very one that has been driving everyone potty!

Care for a game of snook her?