User talk:Nelsontubaina

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Regarding your edit to the article on Kent Dawson, which was reverted by another editor: No, Judge Dawson's sentence in the Irwin Schiff case is not considered a "severe crime." And, no, no mistakes or unethical actions were taken by the judge in the Schiff trial.

Strictly speaking, a Supreme Court decision is not "evidence." Evidence in a court case in the United States normally involves what we call questions of fact. A Supreme Court decision would involve what we call a question of law. What Schiff probably wanted to do was to have the jury read the texts of one or more Supreme Court opinions, in an improper effort to try to get the jury to agree with Schiff about what the tax law is''. That is not allowed, under our American legal system, in either a criminal case or a civil case.

In a court case, either side can present Supreme Court decisions and other decisions in an attempt to obtain a favorable ruling from the judge (not from the jury) on a question of law.

Contrary to what some tax protesters and others believe, based on information from old legal texts taken out of context, the jury cannot making "rulings" on questions of law. Certain issues that are considered by a jury are what we call mixed questions of law and fact, but juries cannot render legal judgments. Juries render only one thing: a verdict.

Further, none of the court cases ever cited by Schiff contain the rulings that Schiff claimed they contain. For example, Schiff cited the Merchants' Loan case, an old U.S. Supreme Court case, for the silly idea that "income" somehow means only "corporate profit" or "corporate gain." Yet, the very item in that case that was ruled by the Supreme Court to be INCOME was not corporate profit or corporate gain; it was the income of the estate of a decedent (the estate of a dead person). The estate of a decedent is not a "corporation," and an entity that is not a corporation cannot have "corporate income" or "corporate gain."

I have been studying Schiff and other tax protesters pretty intensively for nearly sixteen years. Schiff is now serving his THIRD federal prison sentence for tax related crimes. Schiff always knew that what he was doing was illegal -- he just refused to accept that his nonsensical yapping about the tax law was wrong.

For more information on Schiff, see:



Yours, Famspear (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)