User talk:NerdyScienceDude/Archives/2010/November

about your rollback
hey, what i said was in good faith...i meant to suggest editing at that point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M.thoriyan (talk • contribs)
 * Wikipedia is not a forum for general discussion. Talk pages are for article collaboration, not for random comments. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  02:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Trouted
You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE You rolled back this edit as "unhelpful". In my opinion, the text was poorly written POV, and I asked that future edits be discussed on the talk page before being added to the article. I don't claim to have perfect knowledge of WP practices, but I thought my edit was correct. Perhaps I could have discussed my reasoning on the talk page first, but I feel that the burden of proof should be on the editor trying to add controversial text. The automatic message you sent to my talk page telling me it was unhelpful was in itself quite unhelpful. What do you think I did wrong? Tdslk (talk) 03:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I was using igloo, which automatically leaves a templated warning on your talk page. It looked like blanking of sourced information and replacing it with information about condoms, which is something a vandal could do. I'll remove the warning from your talk page. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  13:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

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PayLeap
Please ease up. The article did not fall foul of WP:CSD and the user is not a vandal - just a good faith newbie. I have to say I was suprised to se someone of your tenure and experience making those errors NSD. Pedro : Chat  21:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and that bloody dreadful editnotice thing when I edit your userpage is, well, bloody dreadful. Not that it's my business, or enforceable, but half a page of random crap to get to the edit box???? Pedro : Chat  21:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I reverted the removal of CSD tag because the user who created the article isn't supposed to remove the CSD tag; they should use the hang on template to contest the speedy deletion. And the help me template is not supposed to be used on articles. Also note that his username is almost identical to the article - could be a promoter. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  21:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * NSD - see WP:BITE. you know about COI, about how to use help tags and about how to use hang-on tags - this editor does not. Instead of reporting him to WP:AIV a few pointers on his talk page would have been better. We don't slavishly follow rules around here mate - or at least those of us with block buttons don't if they have any sense. I'm not having a go at you, but please remember we were all newbies once. Pedro : Chat  21:34, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI, another editor has applied an A7 tag to the article, and the user in question has been blocked per WP:ORGNAME. The AIV report was automatic based on whether or not the editor has a level 4 warning; since there isn't one the report was probably a Huggle error. I also shortened my editnotice. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  21:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI the A7 has been removed, the block is a softblock to get the user to change their name (and frankly I think that's overkill but the crats wont generally change username with a few edits so I guess we're stuck with it) and I have no time whatsoever for people blaming Huggle for stuff. Thanks for shortening your edit notice. NSD if you want to be an admin (which I note from your userpage you do) I'd suggest a little reflection on the nuances rather than the process. Pedro : Chat  21:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  22:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Please help with the Apple Inc. collaboration
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Thanx for reverting the latest vandal
The little scum, they love me so.... -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  00:10, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) It might be a good idea to semi-protect your user page. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  00:13, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah. It's good practice for me in humility and the maintaining of calm Christian forbearance. It also serves to spotlight the occasional thug before they can damage something more important in articlespace. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  00:15, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I was going to start a new section, but this section seemed like an appropriate place to add this barnstar. The Utahraptor Talk/Contribs 00:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, The Utahraptor! ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  00:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

UAA Report
Hi there NerdyScienceDude! Thanks for the following report at UAA.

&mdash; Violation of username policy because it's an offensive username; ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  23:39, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't personally find this offensive enough to warrant a block, but I am not easily offended... Beeblebrox (talk) 00:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the report from the UAA noticeboard as I don't see any concerns related to the username of this editor. If you do note any, please re-report it. If they continue to vandalize, feel free to report that at AIV. Thanks!  ceran  thor 01:46, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought "goddamn" would be a problem in usernames. I will report to AIV if vandalism persists. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  14:34, 12 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Time for a digression! In the USA, profanity related to religion (like the example above) tends to be treated more seriously than in most other English-speaking countries. By contrast, in the other English-speaking countries, profanity related to sex or excrement is generally treated proportionately more seriously than in the USA. Broadcasting organisations in the United Kingdom, the USA and other countries actually make lists of the "top ten most offensive words" for each country, and the differences reflect this. (Some of the gory details are in the article on Profanity, but a quick summary is that of the top ten most offensive words in the UK, eight refer to sex, reproduction or body parts, two are racist terms, but none refer to religion.)


 * So in some parts of the USA, "goddamn" may be regarded as more offensive than in most other places in the world. On the other hand, there are some countries where calling someone a donkey is one of the worst insults imaginable. And you've probably heard of the furore about certain religious images. By contrast, in some parts of the UK, addressing someone as "you daft bastard" or "you stupid bugger" is the equivalent of a friendly trouting; but for most of the rest of the world it is likely to cause offence.


 * The historical perspective? Nearly two and a half thousand years ago, in the Athenian golden age that was "the cradle of Western Civilization, and the birthplace of democracy", the wildly successful playright Aristophanes, "the father of comedy", wrote comedies for mass audiences that had relentlessly sexual or scatological themes, or were noted for their use of "explicit obscenities". In the same era, even Plato, who "helped to lay the foundations of Western philosophy and science", included sexual innuendo about his mentor Socrates in some of his most significant, and deadly serious, philosophical works.


 * Just over one hundred years ago, when the Irish novelist Bram Stoker wrote Dracula, he described fictional uneducated workmen as making many references to "blood" and "bloom" but chose not to quote exactly what they said - it might have offended his readership even in the midst of his gothic/vampire/horror novel with its occasional sexual undertones.


 * Nearly a hundred years after that, as a British schoolboy, I was first thrashed soundly for being overheard using the word "bloody" as an adjective among my peers, but then later taken to see a performance of one of Aristophanes' most obscene plays in English translation. Very confusing.


 * Moving back to the topic of UAA! As you can tell from the above, there is a lot of variation on how offensive different words are in different cultures or countries. The WP:UPOLICY is a little unclear, in that it first says that any "offensive username" is unacceptable, but then describes that as usernames that make "harmonious editing difficult or impossible"; then later says that one should "consider leaving well enough alone" even before opening a RFC/N unless it's completely unambiguous. Since the collegial editing environment sometimes contains much harsher profanity (not specifically directed against individuals) both in article space and in talk space, then we can be reasonably tolerant with silly usernames (not directed against individuals) that don't go over the line.


 * Of course, none of it is a big deal, but I find it fascinating anyway, as you probably noticed :) Keep up the great work on Wikipedia.


 * --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:41, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi NerdyScienceDude! Your last message to tell me my change was 'unconstructive' was quite depressing - especially as I made two changes, one after the other, to fix a broken link. The first change didn't fix it due to an error, and the second change did. I honestly never expected to receive a personal put down for that! Might be worth hanging fire a bit to not discourage other potential Wikipedia improvers. - Some random helpful editor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.123.103 (talk) 21:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * . Thanks for pointing that out. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  21:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you NerdyScienceDude
Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page. Viva community! Alistair Stevenson (talk) 22:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I noticed an IP added "SORRY"to your user page back in August. I have removed that as well. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  03:16, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010 backlog elimination drive update
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Your picture on your userpage
Hi NerdyScienceDude,

I saw your picture of a cactus on your user page and it got me wondering,how do I do that (by having the image as the background and the Text on top) I'd really appreciate it if you could give me the code on how to do that. Thanks, --  Para sect  (Discuss) 18:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is the code:


 * Which produces:



  Parasect


 * Just replace the cactus image with the image of your choice. You can also change the fonts if you want. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  20:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I really appreciate it!--  Para sect  (Discuss) 00:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

RfC regarding User:Otis1017
Hello,

I noticed that you have been involved in the low-level edit war taking place on Garry's Mod and was hoping that you would take the time to weigh in on an RfC related to the dispute: Requests for comment/Otis1017. Best regards, Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 23:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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2010 Ford 400
Please click the link above. If I give the points system explained can people do the math to figure out where they'd have to finish to clinch the championship, or will I need a reference? Could you help me find a reference, if not?  Nascar  1996   21:14, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You do need a source. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  03:25, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats what I thought, I didn't see any from NASCAR.COM, guess I might have to do a broadcast source.  Nascar  1996   03:40, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * How is its formatting right now? I'm trying to start this article picture perfect for FA-class. Also you may want to participate in this AFD.  Nascar  1996   02:33, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks good so far. Just remember to add units whenever you mention practice/qualifying times. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  03:05, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I always forget to add those.  Nascar  1996   03:22, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Off the subject of the race, how are my improvements to the Rick Hendrick article?  Nascar  1996   20:12, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

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Dodgy usernames
Usually better to wait until they have edited. The username you reported is marginal for policy, but may indicate a problem editor. On the other hand, they may edit perfectly sensibly, in which case you might suggest that they pick a different username. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:09, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, usernames that have "shit" in them are blocked usually on sight. Here is a list of these usernames I've reported:


 * All of the above usernames were blocked after I reported them. Sure the word could appear incidentally in usernames, but it's obvious in (what is this shit). ~  Nerdy  Science  Dude  00:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW, blocked indef by . ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  00:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the above usernames were blocked after I reported them. Sure the word could appear incidentally in usernames, but it's obvious in (what is this shit). ~  Nerdy  Science  Dude  00:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW, blocked indef by . ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  00:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the above usernames were blocked after I reported them. Sure the word could appear incidentally in usernames, but it's obvious in (what is this shit). ~  Nerdy  Science  Dude  00:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW, blocked indef by . ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  00:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the above usernames were blocked after I reported them. Sure the word could appear incidentally in usernames, but it's obvious in (what is this shit). ~  Nerdy  Science  Dude  00:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW, blocked indef by . ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  00:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you!
Thank you for your support at my RfA last week. I'll do everything I can to live up to your expectations and if you ever need help from a janitor please feel free to drop me a line! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 22:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, and good luck with your shiny new mop! ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  14:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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