User talk:Nevbirer/sandbox

Some remarks
Dear Nevbirer,

As you perhaps remember I was really curious about your text. It does look really promising. But there is still a lot of work to be done...

Some remarks:


 * It may be good to make the introduction a bit more encyclopedic (and compact), like: "A&NZ" is a book, written by … and published in ….
 * Perhaps it is a good idea to make a first paragraph with some "bibliographic" information. You could put the sentence that it was his 3rd travel book there as well (also mentioning the names of the other travel books, perhaps?)
 * I think it was also published in Melbourne in the same year (ref)
 * Does it contain 3 or 2 vols? German edition says 3; Chapman&Hall has 2?
 * Was it (partly?) first published as a series in a journal/newspaper ? see: Anthony Trollope bibliography; please find sources for that!
 * You could link to Google Books edition here as well:
 * https://books.google.nl/books?id=nSs6qNOQblcC (3 vols.) this is a Leipzig edition (1873) btw!
 * https://books.google.nl/books?id=3TcNAAAAIAAJ (vol. 1) Chapman & Hall 1873
 * https://books.google.nl/books?id=iDcNAAAAIAAJ (vol. 2)
 * And links to IA:
 * German edition in 3 vols in IA
 * vol. 1 (Ch&H 1873) 		(very bad scan, btw)
 * vol. 2
 * vol. 1 (3d ed.)
 * vol. 2 (3d ed.)
 * and for the NZ parts: ENZB
 * 1874 a part was republished as "NSW and Queensland"
 * also in Hathi Library: here
 * id. NZ
 * id. Victoria and Tasmania

Perhaps it is good to mention the most important later editions (e.g. 1968, ed. by Edwards & Joyce; 2013 CUP ← online behind paywall; etc.)

Please find also the OCLC (Worldcat) identifiers for these different versions.

I understand what you mean, but it's not a nice (sub-)title. And as you say in the next paragraph: he was an enthusiastic traveller.
 * Concerning the second paragraph: "Reasons for travel"

You don't give a source for the quote of …..

Part of this paragraph could be used in a separate paragraph "Bibliographic information".
 * Concerning the third paragraph: "Content"

I don't understand why you use the quote in the first part of the paragraph.

In general: be more careful with quoting, and giving the sources. I'm curious about these sources.

Well, it is a promising begin, but now it's time to work it into a good section.
 * Last paragraph: "Critics"

I cannot value the importance of this notes.
 * Sorry, there is still a next paragraph: "Notes"

Some additional sources you can use:
 * nice review 2014 with a very nice image (from Wikimedia Commons!) ← use it!
 * some factual info on visit NZ and some links
 * some facts about the book
 * https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/data/UQ_242679/Qld_heritage_v1_no1_1964_p5_10.pdf?Expires=1527954830&Signature=KtegyAgZMgFPRekicM78TNjowq8rXEgiQT3lpvabISGa5OBPOeqGEOpbrs8cdcvaAtMZzKG2kP0uB5Ns8VoNQWiCNFOE6JRtDZSXbc1G-xgeQo4ksRHupaq3-Xc-vKv2lgr8S-1dL4SEWcUlUSh4stJ5kgLii~3rDO9poa9oll3hudl4RdakDeuFmreMwm3zz5sSqKkP9h05BOadWPFIgCqJ1PjMhPxf3e6MoaHVbjTeF04fRzKm6ovILr70EreybYzMQyt8PP7cgtmsSmSKY0S7f7mMwxOz-wv5o~2EZTRoR2APf3wqcf4BY10LL38NsT40djc2Ap4iYh8Z9kemMA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJKNBJ4MJBJNC6NLQ A very extensive description of the editorial work by Joyce (1964)]
 * Another valuable source, 	chapter 14, p. 181 f: Nicholas Birns – Trollope and the Antipods. in: Dever, Carolyn, Lisa Niles – The Cambridge Companion to Anthony Trollope

I hope these remarks are of use for you. Many greetings, --Dick Bos (talk) 17:39, 1 June 2018 (UTC)