User talk:NewByzantine/Archive 1

Your recent edit to United States[edit source] I noticed your recent edit to this article. Wikipedia has several articles on style; WP:MoS is the main article. The styles for dates are covered at this location. I reverted your edit to ensure conformity with these guides. — Neonorange (talk) 22:33, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

To user "Neonorange"[edit source] According to the article, WP:MoS, my edits were also correct. Wikipedia allows for "AD" to be placed before or after the year. Placing the date before the year is considered grammatically correct by most institutions. I also did not change the dating style, as the article had already used BC/AD, not BCE/CE. My edits were done in good faith, which you failed to mention when you reverted them. Furthermore, your comment does not fit the formatting style outlined towards the top of this talk page. I ask that you remove your comment within 24 hours, or else action will be taken, as I will count this as vandalism. NewByzantine (talk) 00:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Please accept that I considered your edit to United States to be a good faith attempt to improve Wikipedia. I assumed that you felt that the edit did improve the article, but were not familiar with The manual of style articles in Wikipedia. The second link I provided, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Era style explains the reasons behind my reversion: Do not change the established era style in an article unless there are reasons specific to its content. Seek consensus on the talk page before making the change. Open the discussion under a subhead that uses the word "era". Briefly state why the style is inappropriate for the article in question. A personal or categorical preference for one era style over the other is not justification for making a change. BCE and CE or BC and AD are written in upper case, unspaced, without a period (full point, .), and separated from the numeric year by a space (5 BC, not :5). It is advisable to use a non-breaking space. AD may appear before or after a year (AD 106, 106 AD); the other abbreviations appear only after (106 CE, 3700 BCE, 3700 BC).. Note the last sentence. A style had, in my opinion, already been established in the article. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, but many of the editors here never meet face-to-face. Assuming good faith is an important pillar of the project in that it makes a pleasant working environment. Another important factor is the existence of policies and guidelines. If you still feel that the changes you made are necessary, the best step is to open a discussion on the article talk page so as to ge other editors involved. A suggestion: a discussion is easier to follow if new posts are added below previous posts in the same section. Preceed each new addition with a colon—this will indent the following text and make the break between authors clear. I'm sorry that my posts don't fit your prescription, but that does not make them acts of vandalism. User talk pages are for the purpose of communication when building the encyclopedia. — Neonorange (talk) 00:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I created those guidelines so that it would be easier for me to read. I apologize for changing the established dating style, but I still do believe that my edits were necessary to promote proper grammar. I may bring this topic up on the United States talk page to see what other editors think. I accept your apology for not following guidelines, but I still ask that you follow them. Yes, you are right about that simply not following guidelines are not considered vandalism. I am sorry for saying that. May I remove your first message about reverting my edits of the United States page? NewByzantine (talk) 16:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC) A user's talk page can be managed more or less as that user wishes, subject to a few overriding Wikipedia policies—copyright violations are not allowed, even fair use images are not allowed because of the minimum use requirement, and no personal attacks, of course. Certain messages are required to be posted, but these can be removed—deletion is considered proof the message was received, noted, and read. So yes, you may remove my posts—no permission is required. I use a script at the top of my talk page that automatically, periodically archives my messages by section:

This script has parameters set that archive threads in the following ways:

90 days with no activity archive only entire threads archieve in segments no larger than 70,000 bytes always leave the newest 20 threads place an archive navigation aid at the top of the page. Archiving your talk page is not required (the talk page history always allows all posts to be retrieved by anyone), but archiving allows searching by date and content; this can be very useful, especially as you become involved in many projects. The exact script with the same parameters as I use should work for you. Do not use the nowiki tags—these tags tell the wiki software not to interpret the enclosed text as a script. Template:Setup auto archiving this link will help if you decide to use auto-archiving for your talk page. Actually, there is a new auto-archiving bot, but it can use the same script as Miszabot; the link is User:lowercase sigmabot III/Archive HowTo.

Just below you will see three templates I use at the very top of my talk page:

noindex enclosed by pairs of curly brackets tells Google not to index the contents of the page Talk header|disclaimer=yes enclosed in pairs of curly brackets produces a standard description of what a talk page is Usertalkback|me=watchb|you=watchtb|icon=lang enclosed in pairs of curly brackets lets a talk page reader that posts will be answered on pages where they are iniatiated, and that the user will automatically set a watch on that page for replies. You may find some of this useful. The noindex template is one that everyone should use on their talk page.

Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#User talk pages should be of help. If I can be of any help, just post a question here or on my talk page. — Neonorange (talk) 18:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hi! I am pretty sure that IP is not a human user, but a bot script that just runs undo whenever the last edit is not his own. Best part is the bot won't edit if the last edit is his own. Because the change is not a big deal (not containing profanity or anything), I would just not undo for now, and wait for an admin to block the IP (already posted a request in WP:ANB/I). Thanks for your attention huji— TALK 00:59, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hey, I noticed you were trying to fix that article. In case you didn't know, there's an easier way to do it than undoing each edit individually; instead, you can go to the most recent good version of the article, hit edit page, and save it without changing anything, that restores the article to how it was before any problematic edits in one fell swoop. C628 (talk) 21:24, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for the tip, I'll remember that next time NewByzantine (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

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