User talk:Newalbin

Fustanella
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Well I did that behave after several attemts for me to change the article about fustanella. According to policies and guidelines. I didnt broke any policy till my changes to article fustanella were deleted permanently. I am adding there that the word "fustanella" is an albanian language word and this testimony have to be included to the article of Fustanella. Also Fustanella is an albanian traditional wearing. This is a second truth that I wrote there that was deleted again. Several deletes without any reason forced me to behave in that way. The article of Fustanella needs to be edited because it is not accurate.Newalbin (talk) 12:40, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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May 2013
Hello, I'm Dr.K.. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Alexander the Great because it did not appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις  00:01, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for disruptive tendentious editing. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Fut.Perf. ☼ 04:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Unblock
Nationalism? Who is nationalist here? Dont misslead discusion please. I brought here facts that the article about Alexander the Great is not accurate and needs to be changed. Are we here to make an academical discussion or we intend to cover mistakes with justification like nationalism? The line where is explained the etimiology of word Alexander is not based in documents and is a false declaration that needs to be deleted. If we are here to say the truth then we need to work together to remove that nontrue line. If we want to tell a wrong story to the world even in a prestigious public internet page as wikipedia then we prove that the credibility of the page is very low. If we want to contribute to say the truth then we helped this way with our knowledge and best human values to improve the credibility and seriozity of the site we are contributing in. Newalbin (talk) 21:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Second request for unblock
Ok but what shall I do? I am respecting Wikipedia policies. I am talking here with neutrality and discussion. So what I have to do to be unblocked?Newalbin (talk) 22:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Future Perfect at Sunrise
Future Perfect at Sunrise

Fifth request for unblock.

 * I will not decide on this latest request, as I declined an earlier one. But please let me advise you - you need to abandon this line of argument, and confirm here that you have done so, or it is very unlikely that you will be allowed to edit here.

I understand that your edits are made in good faith, but you have to follow Wikipedia policy. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 17:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Sixth request for unblock

 * Last attempt at explaining It's more the way you are going about things than what you are trying to add. You can't just change established text which is referenced to something totally different. You are not adding a reference. Not even one. I have never heard of Alexander being an Albanian speaker - he's always been on the edges of the Greek world so far as I am aware, but you might well be right. But YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT. You are suffering from a refusal to listen to what we are telling you. You are blocked not for the truth or otherwise of your changes. You are blocked because of the way you are behaving. Ranting gets you nowhere on Wikipedia. Discussing things calmly in the correct place may not always get the result you want, but it doesn't get you blocked. There's no point at present in unblocking you, because you'll only do it again - and if that happens, it'll be even harder to get unblocked then. I'm trying to help you, even though you probably won't believe me. You must show that you can understand how we work here. At the moment, I don't think you do. Please try to see it from our point of view. Peridon (talk) 16:06, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (ec)I understand that you have a firm view on the origin of the name "Alexander". But this view is not shared by the Wikipedia community, and your persistent attempts, via unblock requests, to achieve your version, is simply not going to work. I am sure that you are editing with the best of intentions, but if you want ever to be unblocked you will have to accept that the community her is not going to agree with your version. If you wish to be unblocked you will need to concede this, and agree not to persist with your attempts to change the etymology of his name. I believe that you can be a productive editor here, and it would be sad if you foundered over what is in honesty a fairly minor point.--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 16:15, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for opening a discussion here. Thank you for accepting somehow my insisting requests. About your concern of etymiology of word Alexander let us have a look of what have happend. So when I saw for the first time the article about Alexander the great this sentence : (Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας, Aléxandros ho Mégasiii from the Greek ἀλέξω alexo "to defend, help" + ἀνήρ aner "man") was just a declaration without any reference. Now after my changes somebody put next to this sentence some references. But open those references and you will see that there is not even one publication that shows for word Alexander to be a greek language word. I dont want to put my declaration instead of that declaration. But read carefully all my ublock requests, I asked there that this line shall be erased or deleted by not replaced from another sentence declarative. I did my changes and I think it was not neccesary for an Administrator to block me. He or she simply could adviced me and simply could started a discussion as you started here (and for which I thank you again) and we could find the best solution for the article. I know that there are no good reference that prove that Alexander the Great spoke albanian language but you must be sure that the language of Alexander the Great was albanian and not greek but I am not asking to put this declaration in article as it is not very well based. Any way thank for the discussion you opened here and gave me the possibility to express my opinion. Discussing is thus far better than any blocking process.Newalbin (talk) 16:27, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * As the Albanian language isn't recorded before the 1400s, and Alexander I of Macedon competed in the Olympic Games (which only Greeks were allowed to do), the Greek hypothesis is probably stronger. But as a lot of material appears to be being published in Tiranë claiming that Alexander III spoke Albanian, it could be an idea to have a 'but others claim' bit in the article. With referencing for both sides. But this needs to be discussed not here, but on the Alexander talk page. If there are sources for both views, both views should be there. As I say, this should be discussed first. Not just altered by one hand. Now, are you prepared to accept that the blocking wasn't because of what you were saying, but because of the way you were going about it? If you can accept that, and accept that Wikipedia works on consensus - agreement on the best way to do things, and the best content for articles - we might be getting somewhere. Over to you. Peridon (talk) 17:07, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I accept to work on consensus. It was in Wikipedia's policy that if you want to change an article you can start doing it. I did it and this was not a strong reason to block me. Administrator that deleted my changes could contact me to my page talk and could warned me before blocking. Still the sentence that explain origin of word Alexander is a declarative sentence. At the other hand. Greek language of today is called Dimotiki. And it have no connection with Koine that is ancient greek language. This is the testimony that greek modern language have no connection with so called greek ancient language. But ancient words like Aferdita, Zeus, Athina, Sparta, Alexander, Leonidha, Dhimitri, Illyria, Macedonia, Epir, Gent, Bardhyl, Agron are words that cannot be explained by greek modern language. They can be explained only by albanian modern language. This means that ancient greek language does not have any connection with modern greek language. And this means that greek ancient language is linked only to albanian modern language. There are people called albanologs that have their studies about albanian language and they reached to the conclusion that albanian language is the language that explains words like Aferdita, Zeus, Athina, Sparta, Alexander, Leonidha, Dhimitri, Illyria, Macedonia, Epir, Gent, Bardhyl, Agron. There is not even one single study to prove that those ancient words can be explained with modern greek language. People like Meyer, Miclosich, Shuflai, Hahn, Camarda and all other people proved in their studies that albanian language is the ancient language used in Balkan in ancient times. There are no studies that show modern greek language to be an ancient language.Newalbin (talk) 17:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't be discussing this here really, but isn't Dimotiki the successor to Koine (via Mediaeval Greek) - Koine being the popular form of Greek in Classical times, while Attic was the more formal and literary language (especially when used outside ASthens)? A bit like the Classical Latin used by orators and poets, and the Vulgar Latin used by the people in general - which gave rise to Modern Italian (and at a bit further remove Romanian). Peridon (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

This is what I am exactly saying here. Koine has nothing in common with Dimotiki. They are two different languages that are not descendant of each other. If you know Dimotiki then you cannot understand Koine because they are two different languages. This is the reason why Koine is teached like a total foreign language today in Greece and not like a dialect of Dimotiki. I brought you here examples that words of Koine are not explained by modern greek language and this shows that they are different languages. Words of Koine are explained only by albanian language of today. It is really more simple. You need to read Nopce, Shuflai and Hahn to understand what I am saying.Newalbin (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I have removed one unblock request, which gave no reason, and we like only one unblock request to be open at any one time. I am not going to decide on this request, as I have done so earlier, but to say that you do not know why you are blocked is clearly nonsense. The reason for your block has been repeatedly discussed in the previous six unblock request declines. As I and other admins have said, unless you can convince the community that you understand where you went wrong and will not do so again an unblock is not likely. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 20:47, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

First of all. Admins of wikipedia blocked me without strong reasons. They acted in bias and have not been objective. I admit my errors and I said this upper in all my apeal requests. I admit that I may be wrong. But admins of Wikipedia are more wrong than me. They cannot accept the fact that the article about Alexander the Great need to be edited and teverything that have to do with term "greek" needs to be disapeared from the article of Alexander the Great because term "greek" is created 1.800 years after the life of Alexander the Great and using term "greek" in this article is illiteracy.

I declare here that i understand where i went wrong but Administrators of Wikipedia need to do the same thing as I am doing here right now. They did wrong more than me in the name of protecting the false term of "ancient greece"

Second I really dont know the reason of my blocking. If there are restrictions in time for my block then those rules needs to be followed by administrators of Wikipedia. If I am blocked for three months then administrators have to unblock me when the period of three months end. Again administrators do not follow and apply the rules decided by Wikipedia policy. I am ready to accept my part where I did wrong but Administrators of Wikipedia have to do more than me because they are more wrong than me. If you want still to be a realible resource of information then you need to reorganize inside you and make administrators take their responsabilities of their bad actions. Newalbin (talk) 20:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC)