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For going above and beyound...
- Thank you very much. I will keep an eye out for those red links and eliminate them, if I can. Regards Newm30 (talk) 03:50, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Gaillard de Durfort
Vale's English Gascony supports Gaillard III.

But this article in French gives it as Gaillard II and cites Peña, Documents sur la famille de Durfort, which I presume is the definitive source. Page 9 of this PDF (also French) supports Gaillard II and shows Gaillard III (his son) as seneschal of Landes.

I think there might be two conflicting numberings for the Gaillards de Durfort. P. S. Lewis has Gaillard III as the seneschal with a son named Gaillard IV, but in the family tree linked to above (the PDF) these are Gaillard II and Gaillard III. To add to the confusion, Gaillard I was also involved on the English side during the war.

I'd go with the 1-2-3 numbering because from the snippets of Peña that I can see (through Google) the first Gaillard is the seneschal's father, making the seneschal Gaillard II. All three of these guys merit articles, I believe. If you don't feel like it, sooner or later I will get to it. Srnec (talk) 00:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * - I have started an article for Gaillard II de Durfort and notice that French wiki has article for fr:Gaillard IV de Durfort, which I will transfer across soon. On another point, I have also started an article on Richard Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Codnor. The German wiki has an article de:Richard_de_Grey_(Adliger,_†_1335) which claims that he was also Seneschal of Gascony in 1313 (sixth year of Edw II's reign), which corroborates to reference used in new article. Maybe he was appointed but never took office, as there is a few people for this period? Regards Newm30 (talk) 05:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

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Battle of Blanchetaque
Hi Newm30. I was going to ping you to let you know that there was a new red link; I should have realised that you would be on the ball. Re Godemar du Fay, I note that you have changed one of the two wikilinks to him to Godemar du Foy. I have two very RSs (Sumption and Burne) who refer to him as Fay, and several other arguably less impeccable sources. Can I ask which sources you are relying on when you change his name to "Foy"? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:38, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * - I originally had him as Foy in my list of red links for Hundred Years' War. The French book [here] states Foy, but I have more hits with Fay. I actually change the first link to Fay, pending impeding article creation (now done). I think we can change all references within the article to Fay, not Foy. Regards Newm30 (talk) 22:52, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I am easy either way, but Sumption in particular is usually very reliable. If you are happy with Fay then fine. (Since sending my original message I have noticed that he is red linked elsewhere in Wikipedia as Foy, as you say.) Gog the Mild (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

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Map tweak
Hi Newm30. You seem to be knowledgeable on image manipulation, so I hope that you don't mind if I try and pick your brains. In Battle of Auberoche I would like to take the map labelled "Nouvelle-Aquitaine within modern France" (perhaps scaled down a bit) and put it in the botton right corner of the map above, "Location of Auberoche in modern Nouvelle-Aquitaine". Do you know how I might do this? Or where I might find instructions on how to? Apologies for bothering you, but of the editors I know, you are the one who seems best at sorting out maps. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Gog. This is an interesting one. I haven't seen any examples without base map showing the sub location map within map already. I have posed a question on the WikiProject Maps talkpage. We may need to request a new map. Will advice accordingly. Regards Newm30 (talk) 04:45, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi. I had assumed that it was standard and that there was an easy answer. Thanks for posting the query. No need to ask for a special map. The article has been promoted to FA and it was a "it would be nice if" comment from the image reviewer. I thought that I could learn something new and improve an article which was already FA. Not, IMO, worth generating a new map for. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:38, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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Chevauchée of Edward III (1346)
Dear Newm30

I have just noticed that you have commissioned a map of the Crécy Campaign and posted it into several articles. It looks very nice and for this many thanks. Good work.

I have also just noticed that you have expanded Chevauchée of Edward III (1346) by copying and pasting a large amount of material from my sandbox. I consider it poor Wiki-etiquette to take material from another user's draft space without permission. I consider it unacceptable to not even give notification. The usual reason that work has not been moved from draft to main space is that its author is still working on it and does not yet consider it ready for public view. Wikipedia also has rules requiring attribution when large amounts of material is copied over. I note that I have previously communicated with you regarding your copying over information without attribution.

I would be grateful if you would cease raiding my sandbox. I would be even more grateful if you would revert your recent cut and paste and wait until I have the material in an appropriate shape for the main space.

You are, of course, free to and welcome to leave comments on my talk page as to how you think I may improve any material in any of my sandboxes. You are, again "of course", equally free to research and make any original edits you wish to any main space articles, including Chevauchée of Edward III (1346)

Gog the Mild (talk) 21:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

, I didn't copy from your sandbox, I copied from battles/sieges articles (i.e. Battle of Caen (1346), Battle of Blanchetaque, Battle of Crécy and Siege of Calais (1346–1347) in Wikispace. I did not know the content of your sandbox? The last thing I want to do is offend you, as we have worked together in the past. Regards Newm30 (talk) 00:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:ATT is the one . ——  SerialNumber  54129  22:27, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * - Please see response above. Regards Newm30 (talk) 00:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * and, I have included "previous large addition copied content from Battle of Blanchetaque; see that page's history for attribution" in a edit to the article for clarity, as I have been advised to do. Regards Newm30 (talk) 00:36, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Newm30. Can I offer humble apologies for accusing you of raiding my draft space. On closer analysis I can see that you are correct, and I should have checked more closely before posting. Your large import of my prose, just after I had made my sandbox more accessible (via a KIS box at the top of my To Do page) caused me to leap to conclusions. Apologies again and I hope that I have not upset you too much.

Nevertheless, you should have imported the text from each article separately, noting in the edit summary of each where it was coming from, and placing an attribution box for each on the talk page. For this last, see the one I inserted on Talk:Louis I de Poitiers, Count of Valentinois after you imported text from Battle of Auberoche last November. For all of this, see WP:ATT, as SN54129 points out. Obviously, if you had done this it would have saved me the embarrassment of making an idiot of myself by levelling false accusations at you.

FYI, other editor's sandboxes and draft spaces, are readily available, so, for example, I can easily see your work on the Isabella in your Draft1, or your interesting work on the Siege of Romorantin - don't forget to attribute any imported text. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Moving forward, can I assume that you are still prepared to work with me after this incident? I wouldn't blame you if you weren't. If you are, can I propose the following as a way forward:
 * I lift from my sandbox what text I feel is complete and paste it into place en bloc. In many cases it will overwrite the broadly similar material which you have imported. I shall, obviously, attribute appropriately. Any remaining imports of yours I shall add an attribution box for. I shall make any edits I feel necessary to the remaining prose of yours; you make any amendments you feel necessary to my prose; any disagreements are discussed on the talk page - ie Wikipedia as normal.

What do you think? Gog the Mild (talk) 14:22, 8 March 2019 (UTC)


 * PS My sandbox work is here - User:Gog the Mild/sandbox2. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:28, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * - I will let you lead on this one, now I know you are writing a draft. I respect your editing, which is so much better than mine. Happy to assist where required and get rid of any red links in the article. Sorry for the mix up. Regards Newm30 (talk) 08:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * It is me who should be apologising, and thanks. Also thanks for the comment on my editing, but I don't think that you should downplay your own skills in this area. I will start work on the article, but please feel free to make any edits you feel appropriate - after all, this is Wikipedia. I will shift future discussion of the article to it's talk page. You may (or may not) wish to page watch my sandbox to see, and perhaps comment on, how I am thinking; note that it will often have material lifted from other pages on it, but I will usually rework it before moving it to article space. Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:35, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Eustace de Maxwell
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Map of the route of Edward III's chevauchée of 1346


Hi Newm30. It has just been pointed out to me that in this map, Carentan (20 July) has been misspelt - it should have a "t" after the first "n". When I last asked Goran tek-en if they could make a change to a map you had requested, they said that should things needed to come from the original requester. I wonder if you could ask them if it is possible to correct this? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:41, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi again, I have just noticed that Carentan is now spelt correctly. Thanks for sorting that, and could you pass on my thanks to Goran tek-en. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi again Newm30. I have had a query from an assessor asking that the source for this map be given. If you could let me have a link to it, I will update the map info page myself. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:26, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * - I think this was based on a map online, with changes as per articles on Wikipedia. I would assume it would be all based on Sumption as the most reliable source. I’m just not sure which book of Sumption’s. Regards Newm30 (talk) 12:25, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I checked Sumption (and Burne) before pinging. Neither show the side trip to Torigny. I shall go with Sumption then, amended by Livingstone and Witzel. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:02, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * This book refers to Torigny.
 * The Wars of Edward III: Sources and Interpretations edited by Clifford J. Rogers
 * Froissart also refers to Torigny. It would appear that whole army was to go to Torigny however upon learning of position of French forces, Edward III, changed the route and those who had travelled to Torigny then sort out the main army the following days. Regards Newm30 (talk) 16:28, 18 May 2019 (UTC)


 * That's interesting. Well researched. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:41, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Chevauchée of Edward III (1346)
Hi Newm30, Chevauchée of Edward III (1346) is getting close to going for a GAN. Would you care to co-nominate it with me? Gog the Mild (talk) 22:59, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * - I would be happy to co-nominate with you. Regards Newm30 (talk) 02:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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Results of the 1848 New South Wales colonial election
Thanks for your edit to Results of the 1848 New South Wales colonial election. Is there a reliable source for the candidate being Charles Salmon Vallack? Everything I have been able to find gives nothing more than his initials. Charles Salmon Vallack was in NSW at the time prior to his appointment as the Melbourne manager for the Bank of NSW and its an unusual name, so it probably is the same person, but it still needs a source. Find bruce (talk) 23:35, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * - I have found a brief obituary in Devonshire when he died in 1888. I think it will be difficult to find RS as he wasn't successful in elections. His brothers and uncle though were active in the Patrick Plains area. Regards Newm30 (talk) 10:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Chevauchée of Edward III - again
Hi. "under the command of Thomas Dagworth". Can I ask your source? I have several which say that Northampton was in command. Eg, Sumption pp 458-9 "... June 1345. Within a week a flying column commanded by one of Northampton's lieutenants, Sir Thomas Dagworth, had penetrated into central Brittainy". The context is that he is mentioned during the planning stage, so the fact that he was left in sole charge later is not relevant. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

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Adrian (1819 ship)
Hi Newm30, I am working on this vessel but no longer have easy access to Bateson's book on the convict ships. Do you have access, and if you do, could you get me the page numbers for the voyage, and the page for the number of convicts embarked and deaths? If you can't, no worries. I will in a couple of weeks be able to look at a copy. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 11:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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Battle of Heraklion
I have had this on my to do list for a while. I just settled down to make a few additions to it, but thought that I had best check whose toes I was stepping on first. And it was started by you! You seem to get everywhere, and fill any number of surprising gaps. Well done and thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:41, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

- Gog, please be my guest. I created it to hopefully get interest from other editors as this battle involved Aussie troops. If I see a need, I attempt to create an article, even at stub level, so that in the future someone with more resources can expand. Regards Newm30 (talk) 10:52, 10 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I have finally got round to doing some work on this. I shall chip away at it over the next few weeks. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:31, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

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Your assistance please...
Hello there, I've been creating a few articles on ships/ferries, and I see you created PS Brighton. I note the page name itself has the name "Brighton" in italics, but "PS" is not. How do you do that? :) thanks in advance --Merbabu (talk) 02:24, 26 December 2019 (UTC)


 * G’day, there are two ways to do this, first the use of ‘ to use italics or bold depending on number of ‘ used. See en:Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting. There is also a template that you can use as well en:Template:Ship. Hope this helps. If you need further clarification I can assist. Newm30 (talk) 02:55, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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Richard de Moravia
Hi, I noticed that you have added Alexander as a son of Richard de Moravia. In order to keep the article to a good standard you need to quote a source to verify this and it's not good enough to simply quote a website in the edit summary. You need to quote a source in the actual article, not just the edit summary. I will make changes.QuintusPetillius (talk) 09:29, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, sorry I should have put a source in there, getting tired. Do you know if Richard’s wife was Margery de Lascelles? I want to make sure this is correct Richard for Alexander. Regards Newm30 (talk) 09:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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DNB
All the articles of the Dictionary of National Biography are available on Wikisource see Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900

The templates, and (with an attribution string), can both link to the articles by using the parameter   instead of.

I edited Robert de Vieuxpont (died 1264) and added the link along with the standard additional information about the DNB article and short inline citations to the long citation (diff).

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User:Gog the Mild submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * I nominate Editor Newm30 for their endless page creation and Wikignoming. They have created over 2,000 new articles, largely historic characters or places, assiduously working the sources to maximise the information provided. They have reduced the red ink in any number of larger articles and so provided context and background. A friendly, serious editor with whom it is a pleasure to interact. Their other contributions are legion, for example setting up 115 new categories. Just, it seems to me, the sort of behind the scenes hero the EotW was created to honour.

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 * - Thank you for your nomination. Was unexpected and put a smile on my face. It might make me more determined to get to 3,000 new articles and more categories. Regards Newm30 (talk) 08:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Richly deserved. Take a moment to bask in the glory. Then crack on with those red links! Gog the Mild (talk) 10:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
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Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open
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Speedy deletion nomination of Tom Warren White


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Speedy deletion nomination of Torboll


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"No indication of significance. It a farm. It is not hamlet. Agreed consensus for geographic entities in the highlands needs 10 houses and post office. There is a farm here.It is not notable."

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Nomination of Torboll for deletion
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Torboll was not just a farm, it was a feudal barony and has notability on this alone. Regards Newm30 (talk) 14:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Consensus that was worked out more than 10 years ago, is that if it is a settlement, then it must have 10 houses. You tried to add it to the list of places in Highland article as a hamlet, which it is not. It is currently a farm with 2 worker houses. If it was a feudal barony, then the person who was baron would have the article and would mention it as the place where it is located.  But consensus states it is not sufficient for an article.     scope_creep Talk  15:14, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
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Update
Hi Newm30, you have probably spotted it, but another article you created has been promoted to FA - Battle of Heraklion - and one to GA - Lancaster's Normandy chevauchée of 1356. Nice work in getting both of them going. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * No problems . Big thanks to you for your expansion and continued improvements to the articles to get them to the standard they are at today. Hats off to you. Regards Newm30 (talk) 17:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021
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Baron of Roslin
Hi, I have noted your edits to William St. Clair, 6th Baron of Roslin. However, I think that we need to look into whether the list on page the Baron of Roslin is accurate. It is sourced to the Rosslyn Chapel page, I added that some time ago. However, Roland Saint-clair's history states that who were are calling William St. Clair, 6th Baron of Roslin was in fact the 1st Baron of Roslin, that he was the first member of the family to come to Scotland and that there is no evidence to show that the family held Roslin before that time. In which case he would actually be the 1st Baron. I am thinking that maybe the Rosslyn Chapel website has been sourced from Van Bassan's History of the St. Clairs which Roland Saint-Clair stated that is "considerably at variance with contemporary annals". Cheers. QuintusPetillius (talk) 15:55, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * - I am not sure as to the correct numbering of the barons of St Clair? I hesitate to use baron in the article title in Scottish nobility articles as the correct useage is not so clear as English barons. Do you have access to the current Oxford webpage article on William? I don’t however I maybe able to reach out to someone who has. We will hopefully be able to work through the information available and come to some conclusion. Regards Newm30 (talk) 20:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

G’day - I have been reviewing more information about Robert de Saint-Clair, also known as Robert de Chaumont and white William could have come from a earlier marriage or later marriage than from  Eleanor de Dreux or potential illegitimate, I struggle to see reasonably how if he came from this line he didn’t appear to hold any lands in France. Page 21 of this document appears to allude to further offspring but it just doesn’t stack up. The only charter acknowledged is the 1248 grant to a William St. Clair. This could be the same William of the article or his alleged father William as per ODNB. Maybe we need to leave the parentage open and give alternatives as provided by the different authorities. Regards Newm30 (talk) 02:07, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If there are alternative lineages that can be sourced then this should be explained in the article. Cheers.QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Johnson's Shipyard


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Lord Herdmanston
Electric Scotland website PDF book Hi, corrections to my previous reply, I was writing late at night before. Page 251 says for Sinclair of Herdmanston: "third grand quarter, argent, a cross engrailed, azue", that means that the cross is coloured blue, which is the same as Lord Sinclair, but in any case that page is referring to the Sinclair of Herdmanston arms being incorporated into George Home's coat of arms, probably through inter-marriage. Page 434 is basically saying that no coat of arms was made for Sinclair of Herdmanston in relation to him receiving Pencaitland as a barony. Then refers to the arms of Lord Sinclair. Page 465 refers to the Sinclair of Roslin coat of arms being "argent, a cross engrailed, sable". Sable being the colour or tincure (black) of the cross, and this would match with the book I quoted on the Lord Herdmanston page by Woodward in which it says that the Sinclair of Herdmanston arms differ from the Lord Sinclair arms in that the cross is Sable (black) rather than Azure (blue). So the combined sources seem to suggest that the Herdmanston arms were the same as Roslin. P.S it will probably be some time until I get round to writing all the articles for the individual Lord Herdmanstons and I also want to complete the articles for all the individual Sutherlands of Duffus. Cheers. QuintusPetillius (talk) 14:56, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Eric Lacy Vowles


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1292 in Scotland


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The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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Diamond (1835 ship)
Was Diamond built in 1824 (per ref) or 1835 (per infobox)? Would like to be able to add this vessel to the correct list of ship launches. Mjroots (talk) 04:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Mjroots I will review this evening and correct and add to appropriate lists. Regards Newm30 (talk) 05:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I should have the 1835 list up by then. One of 1824 ships / 1835 ships categories will need to be removed from the article. Mjroots (talk) 05:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Mjroots, she was launched in 1835 per source. Found a further error too. Obviously had a shocker when I created this article. Newm30 (talk) 08:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll add her in to the 1835 list. Mjroots (talk) 08:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Bisset family has been nominated for deletion
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Dorset (1838 ship)
Can you confirm Dorset was launched in 1838 and not 1835? Mjroots (talk) 05:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Mjroots - she was launched in 1838 and have changed year in article. I wonder if I should have been wearing glasses that day. Regards Newm30 (talk) 07:46, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * No worries. It's part of the beauty of Wikipedia that facts can be challenged, re-evaluated and corrected. Mjroots (talk) 08:48, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023
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Category:Immigrant ships to Western Australia has been nominated for merging
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The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 214, February 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 216, April 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 219, July 2024
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