User talk:Newyorkbrad/Archive/2014/Mar

chronophagousity
chronophagousity ? Google returns six hits, all of which are your usage. I'm guessing time eater, but am curious. (I understand your availability, no rush)-- S Philbrick (Talk)  22:26, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Pretty much, but it shouldn’t have a U in it. Chronophage, time-eater; chronophagy, eating time; chronophagous, time-eating; chronophagosity, the state or degree of being chronophagous. That’s what the etymology would say, anyway; the ‘true’ meaning of a word arises from its usage ‘in the wild‘.—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  23:08, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You are correct -- but I think I am the one who initially used "chronophagous" as an adjective on Wikipedia. Perfectly fine word. Collect (talk) 01:15, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, that rings a bell. Thanks.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  14:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * My submission to the lexicon is tempivore: an editor whose wiki-life appears to be sustained principally by the consumption of (others’) time.—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  20:06, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * No plagiarism . :) Both are perfectly cromulent words. --DHeyward (talk) 08:49, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

User:Sphilbrick, User:Odysseus1479, User:Collect, User:DHeyward: Thank you for this interesting thread. I have to admit that I simply made up "my" word as a riposte to Collect's. Any appearance or non-appearance of "chronophagousity" or any cognate in the actual language is strictly coincidental.

On a far less light-hearted note, though, I am very unhappy that arbitration pages are showing up on Google searches via mirror sites. Several years ago, it was decided that arbitration requests and various other internal project pages (XfD, DRV, RfA, etc.) should be "no-indexed" as they contain references to both contributors and BLP subjects that are necessary for internal Wikipedia purposes but should not become part of people's search results. If for any reason the no-index settings are now being disregarded or are not being copied onto mirror sites, that is an exceedingly serious problem. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:44, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortuantely, we cannot control what mirrors do with our content, other than contact them privately and ask them to stop. I can do so, if you like. L Faraone  21:04, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I doubt that five independent mirror sites made a conscious decision not to include no-index or robots.txt codes embodied in these pages. In my uninformed opinion, it is more likely to be a technical glitch that is leading to the codes not being picked up on the mirrors to begin with. I'd welcome anyone's, including your, making contact with the sites in question, but I also wonder if there is anything we can do with the coding internally to reduce the chances of this kind of problem. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I think there is more we can do. The mirroring policy and TOS is that mirrors register and that they use the mirror file (which WMF generates).  If that file includes "no index" pages, WMF should change how the file is generated.  If these sites are not using the file, they are in violation of the terms and should be blocked access.  The file is http://download.wikimedia.org/pages-articles.xml.bz2 .  Sites that don't comply can be reported to meta:Live mirrors.  Unfortunately, I don't know if this material is in the file (though I doubt it considering there are so few mirrors).  I don't know who to contact to see if the mirror file contains arbitration proceeding but it should be straightforward to remove it and stop the "live mirrors" from doing their own crawls which is a burden on WMF servers and most likely a TOS infraction.  --DHeyward (talk) 21:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Potentially. I'm not overly optimistic but it's a good idea to say the least. NativeForeigner Talk 21:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I added one of the sites to the live mirrors report page as test case. I don't know if they prioritize or who looks at it. It is definitely a live mirror as this page showed my edit immediately on NYBs talk page. --DHeyward (talk) 21:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Since my first request was met with a positive response, I'll see if I have similar success contacting some of the other relevant mirrors. L Faraone  15:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help. I still wonder whether there is a broader issue with the coding that could be addressed, as it were, at the wholesale rather than retail level. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:20, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

racr
Re [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FClarification_and_Amendment&diff=597385322&oldid=597361151] ... 42! NE Ent 23:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That is a very important point, but of course, 17 is the best number. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:24, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Editor review#RfC: Should we mark WP:ER as historical?
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Editor review. &#x0020;As you participated in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Editor review (2nd nomination) last year, you may be interested in the current RfC discussing closing and marking ER as historical. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 02:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

DC Meetups in March
 Happy March!

Though we have a massive snowstorm coming up, spring is just around the corner! Personally, I am looking forward to warmer weather.

Wikimedia DC is looking forward to a spring full of cool and exciting activities. In March, we have coming up:


 * Evening WikiSalon on Wednesday, March 12 from 7 PM – 9 PM. Meet up with Wikipedians for coffee at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle! If you cannot make it in the evening, join us at our...
 * March Meetup on Sunday, March 23 from 3 PM – 6 PM. Our monthly weekend meetup, same place as last month. Meet really cool and interesting people!
 * Women in the Arts 2014 meetup and edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 30 from 10 AM – 5 PM. Our second annual Women in the Arts edit-a-thon, held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free lunch will be served!

We hope to see you at our upcoming events! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.

— Harej (talk) 05:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Question
Would 2014 Russian military intervention in Ukraine, and 2014 Crimean crisis fall under ARBEE? My concern is nationalist rhetoric on the talkpage and through editors from those involved. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a good question. I believe the answer is yes, but you might want to post on the arbitration clarifications board for broader input. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * How would you do that? I have been on Wikipedia a bi tyes but have never gone through the arbcom process when it comes to clarifications. The relevant discussion can be found here btw: Talk:2014 Russian military intervention in Ukraine the issue was not raised by me I am just in agreement. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You can post the question at RFAR, with a link to the prior case(s). In lieu of notifying the affected editors, because that's an indeterminate group, you can post a cross-reference at the discussion you just mentioned. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Will
Hello Newyorkbrad,

When I first began editing back in the summer of 2009, Will Beback was welcoming, helpful and supportive to me, perhaps partially because we share a love of the Sierra Nevada. The first and only time that I almost got into an edit war, he gave me excellent advice to back off. I do not claim to know or understand everything that led to his ban. I will not complain or rant or rage however things turn out. However, my perception was that he was, on balance, a productive and positive contributor to this encyclopedia for a very long time. I also know that he made some serious mistakes. And I readily accept that there may be something more serious that is properly out of my view. But as I see the matter, the time has come to consider seriously whether it might be fair and just to allow Will Beback to return to editing. I want to assure you that I have had no recent communications with Will, and that we have only exchanged a handful of off-wiki communications well before he was banned. My communication with you is entirely on my own initiative. Thank you very much for considering what I have said. And thank you for the difficult work you do on ArbComm.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  07:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration request motion passed
An Arbitration Clarification request motion passed. You contributed to the discussion (or are on the committee or a clerk)

The motion reads as follows:


 * By way of clarification, the formal warning issued by Kevin Gorman was out of process and therefore has no effect. The provisions of WP:BLPBAN will be reviewed by the Arbitration Committee and where necessary updated.

For the Arbitration Committee, --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Statement from NYB re email
This is Newyorkbrad. My thanks to everyone who alerted me to the problem with my Gmail account and took precautionary action, and my apologies to anyone inconvenienced.

I had a strong password on the Gmail account, and haven't used it from any insecure places, so I don't know how some spambot may have gained access to it. I've changed the password. It was, and still is, a different password from the ones I use on my Wikipedia account and my other Wikimedia-related and non-wiki accounts, but I am changing those as well.

I need to be offline for several hours this morning for RL work appointments, and will follow up about regaining my wiki access after that.

Regards to all. -Newyorkbrad

(Posted by NativeForeigner per request on arbcom-l)


 * I'd already posted an alert on WP:AN, so I'll relay this message there. Bishonen &#124; talk 10:56, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Gmail has been hacked many times in the past and doubtless will be in the future -- fortunately the hackers tend to use the accounts to spam the address book and hope folks click on bad web pages -- as the content was quite out of character, I would assume no savvy person will be affected, and, in fact, it is unlikely that the incident would be repeated in any case -- the hackers assume that people change their passwords. The fault, of course, is with Google in the first place. Collect (talk) 18:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I think you are sending weird emails without your knowledge. The email's body contains "Hello, Attached is the important business Docs file View Docs Here with secure email. Thank You!" and links to an external site for the documents. I think you may have a malware infection. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 17:22, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see above.  Go  Phightins  !  19:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * DOH! -- A Certain White Cat chi? 20:31, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Access
Please check your email immediately. Stewards have locked this account as a precaution, and we can unlock when we have the goahead from you and/or ArbCom. --Rschen7754 08:32, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Newyorkbrad's email is definitely compromised. It appears to be sending out malware links disguised as business files. Feezo (send a signal &#124; watch the sky) 08:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I received one as well... Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 08:53, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Me too! Giano    (talk) 09:03, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ditto - I've given LCA a heads up too, and we've given Rschen has given arbcom a heads up. Steven Zhang (talk) 09:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought it was malware too. With email compromised does someone have an alternative means of contact? Agathoclea (talk) 09:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I've attempted to contact him and am awaiting a response. Worm TT( talk ) 10:02, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I also got one, but was at work and couldn't come here to see if anyone had warned NYB. Glad it appears to be sorted now. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 14:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ArbCom is now aware, and I'm told they are contacting him through other means. For reference, m:User:Matanya globally locked the account since Newyorkbrad has access to sensitive permissions on this wiki, to safeguard against private information being leaked, at least through onwiki tools. --Rschen7754 09:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * And I did get email from you too, which is strange. You have never emailed me, and I should not have been in your contacts.76.126.141.244 (talk) 10:15, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I recommend downloading a free version of this program and running it. I was advised it after my email was hacked, and so far it worked for me.76.126.141.244 (talk) 10:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Bizarrely, I also got a malicious email. My guess would be malware scanning his gmail account for any and all email addresses that show up, which would include the functionaries-en and checkuser-l mailing lists where many of our emails show up.... Reaper Eternal (talk) 10:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, my spam folder caught it, but I check periodically as my spam folder tends to be overzealous, and when I saw something from NYB, I opened it ... luckily I didn't download the file.  Go  Phightins  !  10:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * What's a Goa head? NE Ent 12:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Beach in India. Anyone who opened the link should check their sent file to make sure no one is sending emails from their account. I opened one from a colleague in Saudi Arabia some years ago, but closed it quickly, and never had any problems. —Neotarf (talk) 15:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Wait, I received one of these emails and was wondering what the heck was happening. Thank god I did not open it. Now I know what happened.  → Call me  Hahc  21  18:11, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I think NYBrad wants us to think his email was hijacked...my guess is he's actually gone rouge!--MONGO 18:18, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Vituzzu has unlocked the account as of a few minutes ago. --Rschen7754 21:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Received one of the emails, didn't follow link. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  23:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Can't comment as to how NYB was compromised, but I'd make a guess that this article from Gizmodo describes the phishing emails that were sent out. Kevin Gorman (talk) 02:39, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I got the message thinking that NYB sent it to the wrong address by mistake. :/ Kurtis (talk) 05:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Could someone supply the headers of one of these (munged as needed)? An email header expert's eyes (e.g. mine and/or spamcop.net's) could help clarify whether Brad's gmail account was compromised. It sounds (from the ANI discussion) that it probably was. The headers google adds don't include the IP of the web client that connected to gmail to send the phish. I would second and expand on the advice: visit https://security.google.com/ to enable 2 factor security and to review recent activity, review Application-specific passwords and delete any that aren't expected. Use any Apple devices? your passwords were probably all vulnerable to the gotofail 0day. --Elvey (talk) 01:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC) (corrected)

Attn TPWs: Any Henry Cecil fans?
(The author and judge, not the racing trainer.) Any information about the question I posted here, about the putative Cecil book Juror in Waiting, would be most welcome. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:25, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

An exciting month of wiki events!
 Hello there,

I am pleased to say that April will be a very exciting month for Wikipedia in Washington, DC. We have a lot of different events coming up, so you will have a lot to choose from.

First, a reminder that our second annual Women in the Arts Edit-a-Thon will take place on Sunday, March 30 at the National Museum of Women in the Arts.

Coming up in April, we have our first-ever Open Government WikiHack with the Sunlight Foundation on April 5–6! We are working together to use open government data to improve the Wikimedia projects, and we would love your help. All are welcome, regardless of coding or editing experience. We will also be having a happy hour the day before, with refreshments courtesy of the Sunlight Foundation.

On Friday, April 11 we are having our first edit-a-thon ever with the Library of Congress. The Africa Collection Edit-a-Thon will focus on the Library's African and Middle East Reading Room. It'll be early in the morning, but it's especially worth it if you're interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of African topics.

The following day, we are having our second annual Wiki Loves Capitol Hill training. We will discuss policy issues relevant to Wikimedia and plan for our day of outreach to Congressional staffers that will take place during the following week.

There are other meetups in the works, so be sure to check our meetup page with the latest. I hope to see you at some of these events!

All the best, James Hare

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I seem to be back
Testing, testing.... Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You forgot 1, 2, 3... Northern Antarctica (talk) 23:45, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Isn't it 3, 2, 1, ACTION! ? -- A Certain White Cat chi? 16:16, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
 * How do we really know it's you? Get a balance, a duck and some wood.  We'll get to the bottom of this sorcery.  Unfortunately, passing the trials by fire and water don't end well for the innocent.  But you'll have your good name as Iago explained.  --DHeyward (talk) 06:06, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, delete your cookies. And if you post links, make sure it's the logged out IP address and doesn't have session data.  The fact that the hijacker didn't change your password make sit sound like they captured session information that they exploited.  Many people have posted links to shared documents that include session data instead of just documents.  --DHeyward (talk) 06:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You'll know it's the real him because he will ponder for several hours (or even days) and then give you an absolutely awesome response that is factually correct in every detail, nuanced and understandable by a child of ten. Guy (Help!) 21:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It is entirely possible for Malware to be reporting the new password as well. Malware tends to be annoying like that. I would recommend free version of http://www.combofix.org/ which is my go to tool for spring cleanup on Malware infected machines. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 22:27, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have had malware scans run on both my work and home machines.
 * I suspect the malware entered through my Gmail account. If anyone can suggest a better mailer program for wiki-related mail, including WMF mailing lists, you have my attention. (Definitely not Hotmail, given this week's mailing-list problems involving Hotmail users.) Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:53, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * When it happened to me -- my computer was not where the attack was -- they attacked the Google database itself then. But using "Malwarebytes" can't hurt. Collect (talk) 00:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The infected computer can very well be your smart phone. That seems to be a popular target for some malware lately. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 05:01, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Some Hacker news commenters have recommended fastmail.fm and it looks ok to me though I haven't tried it. That it isn't free is considered an advantage in some circles, since it makes you "the customer rather than the product".  I seriously doubt Brad's account compromise was due to the gmail.com db itself being breached.  I'd be more suspicious of either client side malware, a wifi MITM attack, or something of that sort.  70.36.142.114 (talk) 14:30, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome back. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:38, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Pardon the intrusion. But I second the recommendation of Malwarebytes Antimalware.  Picks up lots of things that Norton Systemsworks misses.  Very good at Trojan detection. So good that I popped for the $29.95 single computer lifetime license.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:17, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

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as the world turns
I note the chronophagous Gun Control quagmire -- and warn you that I have an opinion about it all which I express at and  (the second only adds a short phrase in translation). I could never hope to match your "on the other hand" dichotomies, but I trust you will find it of interest in the three months or so before that case is settled. I note with amusement that Roger now appears to oppose "new evidence" presented after the close of the Workshop and Evidence phases of a case . Cheers. Collect (talk) 23:50, 30 March 2014 (UTC)