User talk:Newyorkbrad/Archive/2017/Nov

Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon (Nov 19) and global online Wikipedia Asian Art Month (Nov 1-30)
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Manning
Thanks for mentioning the Manning case. Apologies for not considering it before posting my request, it is obviously relevant. Hopefully it does not change the issue in any significant way, but I confess to not having done that background reading. It may be that the suggested "fix template" can get done, but the more complex "should we lift it" will need a lot more evidence to be collated; which is likely to be better put together by others with more experience in that analysis than me and less subject to later claims of possible unconscious bias. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 18:38, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. I'm sure some other editors will comment on the various aspects. Newyorkbrad (talk) 18:41, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Any German-speaking TPWs?
I'm planning to create an article here that (unaccountably) now exists on German Wikipedia but not yet in English. I have the gist of what I'm planning to adapt from the German-language article, as well as some English-language sources, but if anyone here speaks German and can help make sure I've understood the German article correctly, it would be helpful. Please let me know if you can help ... thanks! Newyorkbrad (talk) 10:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I can help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ps: the majority of my articles are translations from German. Look for a simple "de" in the list of 2017 under the header ill. More rarely, I translate the other way round, marked "de:" and a date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Will get back to you in the next day or two. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:28, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Stanley Pargellis. I've started the article based on the information contained in the German Wikipedia article. I'll do more research and editing in the coming days, but I'd first like to make sure that I've understood the German article correctly. (I did fix a couple of dates based on checking the sources, so no need to worry about that). Best regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I told Wikidata to merge the two entries, and now need sleep first, - I'm useless past midnight ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't think Gerda got round to this. :-) I linked the en-Wikipedia and de-Wikipedia articles. The edit was here. You can either go to the Wikidata item and update the entries under "Wikipedia", or click the 'Edit links' link in the sidebar. About the attribution in the first edit summary, mentioning the de-Wikipedia article was right, but technically an actual link is required, see Copying within Wikipedia (this is not strictly required if you are loosely adapting using the same source, rather than directly translating). If this was a direct translation, you will want to put Translated page on the talk page. Carcharoth (talk) 14:58, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Right, I didn't get around this yet, because I first wanted to create my new article of the day, I also was held up by some unusual reverts, discussed on Classical music, if you feel like sharing your view. - Very generally: when you (anybody) translate an article from another Wikipedia, the first two next steps should be to establish the link to the other on Wikidata, and to attribute the other article on the talk, as Carcharoth said. If you don't link the two articles immediately, a bot may create a new entry, which then has to be merged, as happened here. I made a notice of the translation on the talk, and will look at the articles now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you both. Thanks. I'll make the appropriate note on the talkpage when I get back to editing this article, using some additional sources, in a day or two. I won't personally be doing anything with the Wikidata, which is outside my skill-set, as Iridescent once described more memorably than I care to admit. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:24, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * As said above, I made the translation note already in this case. I also looked at the article, added a few links, simplified a bit, and arranged everything regarding the library in one paragraph, - revert what you don't like. I am surprised that the library information seems to miss on Wikidata, will look into that. I also volunteer to give him an oh-no-not-that-word-again ;) - I wonder about quotation marks around published titles and their separator comma, but left them as they are.
 * You don't have to know anything about Wikidata but this: In the article, you look left, see "Languages" and below "Edit links". You dare to click on it, and see this, a list of sites and article names. Let's assume you want to add the article in French: You click on "edit" and will be prompted to enter two things, the site name (would be "frwiki") and the article name on that site (probably the same as on others). That's all. I trust you have skills enough for that ;) - If not ask me. (It's done for this one, we speak about the next.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 30 November 2017 (UTC)