User talk:Nfalceso/Archives/2018/January

Welcome

 * Nfalceso (talk) - Thanks! Wikipedia has a nice community to work with. —Preceding undated comment added 04:08, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Opening Discussion Regarding Archive Page
✅ How do I index the archive page, I recently made on my Talk Page? Also is it possible to automatically have it index? Thanks Nfalceso (talk) 04:39, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey, you can take a look at Archiving a talk page. Thanks. –  1 9 97  kB  05:45, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I see we've had an edit collision. While I was experimenting with previews of your user page, you've already made some of the changes I was about to suggest. I've added a second archives template to your talk page. Because you made your first archive have a non-standard name, it is necessary to jump through some hoops to have the list of archives appear in the "Archives" box as clickable links. You would have to amend this list each time you created a new archive file.
 * I second 's suggestion of looking at the WP:ARCHIVE page. Using one of the archiving bots and adopting a standard naming convention for your archives would be a lot easier, I would think. You'll see on my own talk page that I chose to archive with a by-date naming convention. This requires me to, in the first few months of a new year, add a new line to the archive template. Using the simply numerical archiving scheme would eliminate even this small amount of maintenance.
 * You should find that the search function in the "Archives" box works without needing to create an index.  &mdash; jmcgnh  (talk) (contribs)  06:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I read through the documentation for the bots, it's a bit confusing therefore I'm still attempting to study it. Thanks for fixing the box, I was going to ask but I gave up. Thanks! Nfalceso (talk) 06:59, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Continue archiving discussion
I had been watching to see if your archive setup was going to work and wondered why nothing had happened yet, since it has now been 6 days since the last timestamp.

I think the reason is that the bot has a parameter minthreadsleft that defaults to "5". I think there's a sense that a completely bare talk page is not as inviting as one that already has some conversations going on it, so the bot leaves this minimum number of threads on the page. (Sort of like the busker's hat or instrument case – you have to put a little money in it to start so more people will get the idea that they could put money into it, too.) You could put in the parameter with a smaller number to override the default, but I wouldn't advise it.

So what's to be done? Invite some fellow editors to add a few comments here? Make some attractive entries of your own? Make some editing mistakes so bots and other editors will post warnings here? (scratch that, not a good idea) Or just wait for more comments to appear in the natural course of time.

Also, now that you've told the bot how you want your archives to be named, you could undo the archiving of that welcome message, and put it back here at the top. (Mark that archive with db-user to request that an admin delete it.) Wait for the bot to archive it.

At some point, but particularly once you have an archive again, you can put back your auto archives box with the search=yes parameter so your archives will be accessible (and delete the one I offered up, you won't need it any more).  &mdash; jmcgnh  (talk) (contribs)  05:00, 23 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Your posting scared me for a moment, I thought I got warned. Anyways what do you recommend I do to "undo" the archiving of the welcome message? The undo button won't work, should I copy and paste? Nfalceso (talk) 05:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't in any way want to alarm you.
 * BTW: the various ping templates only work if they appear in a newly signed comment. Adding them afterwards, without a new signature, as you did in your second edit of this reply, doesn't trigger the notification. Pinging is a good idea in most cases, but not required on pages the other party is likely to be watching and you never need to ping the person if you are adding to their talk page. On the other hand, you may get a notification every time someone else edits your talk page, signed or unsigned, warning or barnstar, new post or minor spelling correction.
 * You're right. Enough other editing has taken place on this page that the "undo" button can't be used to undo that archiving. You just have to do copy-pastey to achieve what you might have liked the "undo" button to do.  &mdash; jmcgnh  (talk) (contribs)  06:30, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There we go! Please check if I did it right. Nfalceso (talk) 06:46, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Now we just have to wait for the conditions to be right. I worry a bit about the sig irregularities on your reply to the first welcome message. It may be that the bot just needs to see a validly formatted date to do its job. We'll just have to wait and see.  &mdash; jmcgnh  (talk) (contribs)  07:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC)