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Volvo 240 Turbo
Is an awesome car, but this doesn't mean that it needs its own article. Clearly you created this page, with no additional or useful content, only so that you could use the copyvio scans you have uploaded. Please join in a conversation with other interested editors here: Talk:Volvo 200 Series. Best,  ⊂&#124; Mr.choppers &#124;⊃   (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello Nfjb, upon your request I archived the whole shebang from the Volvo 240 talk page.  ⊂&#124; Mr.choppers &#124;⊃   (talk) 23:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Volvo Kalmar Assembly
Nfjb, what is the source for the statements you make in Volvo Kalmar Assembly? The standard for inclusion of information on Wikipedia is not what we know (or think, or believe), but what we can prove. Kindly please brush up on Wikipedia core principles and provide citations to reliable sources for your assertions, or they will likely be removed sooner or later. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 04:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Volvo Halifax Assembly
Nfjb, it is not acceptable to revert edits, wholesale, that brought the article considerably closer to compliance with Wikipedia policy and principles related to NPOV, style and structure, and fixed basic errors of spelling, grammar, and syntax. It is especially unacceptable to do so without any discussion on the article talk page, and without so much as an edit summary. Please take whatever effort you require to understand that this is a coöperative venture, not a competitive one, and you may not undo valid work simply because you would rather see "your" text displayed. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 05:47, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

CITATIONS needed
Nfjb, I'm glad to see you taking a more productive approach to editing Volvo Halifax Assembly, and I'm particularly glad to see you beginning to understand that assertions must be supported, but you need to do it properly. Just using a few words to describe where you read something does not even begin to get the job done. These are examples of "references" you added to Volvo Halifax Assembly this evening:

1. http://www.volvoamazonpictures.se/production/production.html 2. Hargrove, Buzz. Laying It on the Line: Driving a Hard Bargain in Challenging Times. Toronto: HarperCollins, 2009. Print. 3. Chadwick, Kathleen. 40 Years: The Story of Volvo's First Forty Years in America. Rockleigh, NJ: Olle Alexson/Volvo Cars of North America, 1995. Print. 4. Volvo Canada Ltd. North York - Annual Report: New Halifax Operation Boosts Performance, 1967 5. Keenan, Greg. "Volvo to Close Halifax Plant." Globe and Mail [Toronto] 1998. Print. 6. Volvo of North America - Press Release: Northern Operations, 1973 7. Canadian Auto Workers. Press Department. Volvo Settles. 5 Nov. 1998. Print. 8. Government of Nova Scotia - Hansard of Legislative Proceedings (September 9, 1998) 9. Canadian Auto Workers. Press Department. Volvo Settles. 5 Nov. 1998. Print. 10. http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/halifax/DVD/fig80-eng.php 11. Sowerby, Garry. "A Thirty-year Take on Odyssey 77." Vancouver Sun, 2010 12. Canadian Auto Workers. Press Department. Volvo Settles. 5 Nov. 1998. Video.

Of these, only #3 and #4 are close to being adequate refs. The others aren't. The idea is to give the reader enough information to be able to go to the source and look at it without additional work to try to find it. "Globe and Mail, 1998" doesn't get that job done. "Canadian Auto Workers. Press Department." doesn't get the job done. Bare URLs without plain-English descriptions don't get the job done. Book titles with no page number don't get the job done. Please read up on how it's done, and begin doing it correctly, or you will come to be viewed as a lazy editor who leaves messes for others to clean up. That's not a reputation you want to get. There are tools to make this easy. Here is my favourite reference text generator. You just click the type of source, enter the relevant info, click "Get text", and you get properly-formatted reference text to paste into the article you're working on.

Furthermore, please stop at once making your edits one little tiny bit at a time. It is rude and makes life unnecessarily difficult for your fellow editors. There is a preview button you can and should use to see how your edit will look before committing to it. Make your edits in batches, not in long sequences of onesie-twosie.

You will find that courteous, polite, coöperative behaviour pays off bigtime here. Selfish, rude, competitive behaviour, in contrast, tends to cost bigtime. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 08:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Ya no worries i will get on that as soon as i have a chance. Unlike other articles this one might be more of a challange. The info is all valid only prob is the citations. The Halifax plant was important no doubt but there arn't any scholarly souces regarding Volvo plants. Most of the information was from offical Volvo press releases and the such so they are there but might not be totally accesable in a few seconds you know. My objective was to let people know that this place really did exist so I created the page a while ago. In terms of finding more informtion thats about it for now. While there can been books written about say Torslanda or Skovde there might be 3 lines written bout Halifax and well it's pretty sad becasue without it who knows what might have happened to Volvo in North America. I just tried to compile and post all the stuff I had. Sorry bout that. So far finding direct URLs is like literally harder than trying to pan for gold. I will post everything I can from books I have but thats about it. For now I figure we just leave that infroamtion in. I check it fairly regualry so if I come across any more internet stuff I'll but it in. Deal? Nfjb (talk) 21:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

King of copyvios
I thought that you had comprehended what Copyright meant after all of your Volvo Turbo pictures were deleted for copyright violations. Obviously, this is not the case, as File:Volvo940productionkalmar.jpg is copyrighted Volvo Car Corporation, and File:Kalmar.png was taken in Sweden in 1975 - I somehow doubt you were there. Please stop uploading others' work as your own, or you will be permanently banned from Commons. And no, cropping does not make a picture your work.  ⊂&#124; Mr.choppers &#124;⊃  (talk) 17:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Srry, my bad thought cropping did. Nfjb (talk)