User talk:Ngăn chặn kiến

April 2023
Hello. In a recent edit to the page First day on the Somme, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

For a subject exclusively related to the United Kingdom (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to another English-speaking country, such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, India, or Pakistan, use the variety of English used there. For an international topic, use the form of English that the first author of the article used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 13:31, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

A discussion concerning your edits
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.DuncanHill (talk) 13:41, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that one or more recent edit(s) you made did not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or to provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits, an adequate summary may be quite brief.

The edit summary field looks like this:

Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account you can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting, and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! DuncanHill (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * okay, sorry for the inconvenience Ngăn chặn kiến (talk) 13:47, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Warning
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia. ''Nearly every edit you have made is oncorrect and has had to be reverted. If you do not have the English skills to edit this encyclopedia, please do not do so, as you are otherwise wasting other editor's time.'' Black Kite (talk) 18:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You're still doing it. This and this, amongst other examples, are simply introducing errors. Please stop or you may be blocked. Black Kite (talk) 13:24, 12 April 2023 (UTC)



Bạn có thể bị cấm sửa đổi mà không cần báo trước nếu lần sau bạn phá rối Wikipedia. ''Gần như mọi chỉnh sửa bạn đã thực hiện đều không chính xác và phải hoàn nguyên. Nếu bạn không có kỹ năng tiếng Anh để chỉnh sửa bách khoa toàn thư này, xin đừng làm như vậy, nếu không thì bạn đang làm lãng phí thời gian của những biên tập viên khác.'' (Black Kite) Mathglot (talk) 19:05, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Chào mừng đến với Wikipedia!
Hello, Ngăn chặn kiến, and welcome to Wikipedia! While efforts to improve Wikipedia are always welcome, unfortunately your contributions are not written in an English that is good enough to be useful. You appear to be more familiar with ; did you know there is a Wikipedia in Vietnamese? You may prefer to contribute there instead. In any case, welcome to the project, and thank you for your efforts! If you need help, please feel free to notify me on my talk page. Mathglot (talk) 18:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Xin chào Ngăn chặn kiến, và chào mừng bạn đến với Wikipedia! Chúng tôi hoan nghênh mọi đóng góp cải thiện Wikipedia nhưng tiếc là các đóng góp tiếng Anh của bạn không đủ tốt và hữu ích cho người đọc. Có vẻ như bạn thạo tiếng Việt hơn; bạn có biết là Wikipedia cũng có phiên bản tiếng Việt không? Có lẽ bạn sẽ thích đóng góp bên đó hơn là Wikipedia tiếng Anh. Cuối cùng, chào mừng bạn đến với dự án, và cảm ơn các đóng góp của bạn! Mathglot (talk) 18:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Collaboration is required
I see you making changes at the German football article I just reverted you on, after my reverted (admins: defensible edit on their part, not EW in this case) so unless you have notifications turned off, you must have gotten an alert for my revert. In the message sections above, several editors have tried to advise or warn you about problematic editors, including one admin, and I know you are aware of it, because of your brief response in one case. Collaboration with other editors is a key feature of Wikipedia, and you should discuss with other editors when they leave messages about your editing behavior. In my opinion, you are very close to having your editing privileges suspended due to improper corrections of previously correct English wording, punctuation, or style, and if you wish to avoid being blocked, you should 1) change your editing behavior in articles, and 2) respond to editors who attempt to contact you on this page. You can respond to me, if you wish, by clicking '[Reply]' and typing a response below. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 03:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay Ngăn chặn kiến (talk) 04:37, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Tricky grammar and punctuation edits
Most of your recent comma-related edits and double-quote plus period edits were improvements, so thanks for those. However, please familiarize yourself better with the Manual of style, and please do not make edits about English grammar or style if you are not sure of what our style manual has to say about it. Other editors and I have undone the following edits of yours:
 * German submarine U-1020 – there is nothing wrong with referring to ships as "she". "It" is also allowed, but do not shift from one usage to another. See MOS:SHIP.
 * Discovery HD (international) – period before paren, when it's a whole sentence. See MOS:PAREN.
 * Kelly L. Moran – period inside quotation mark, when the end of a full quoted sentence is also the end of the sentence containing it. See MOS:LQUOTE.

In other cases, such as prepositional phrases of time ("From 1821...", "In 1856...", etc.) they are optional, and usually not necessary when less than four words. The following changes were unnecessary, and do not improve the article, but neither are they harmful, so I have not reverted them:
 * Friedrich Ludwig Meissner, rev. 1149591524
 * Copdock and Washbrook, rev. 1149612022‎
 * Fran Unsworth, rev. 1149790339
 * William Clowes (printer), rev. 1149788041

Some of these cases are very tricky, such as the Kelly L. Moran example, which even a lot of experienced editors might have gotten wrong, and as a new user, you cannot be expected to know every little detail of the WP:Manual of style. However, that is kind of the point: until you *do* know it backwards and forwards, that is all the more reason that you should not attempt to fix tricky edge cases in grammar or punctuation, until you have established a track record here and demonstrate that you have mostly mastered the MOS and can apply it correctly. Otherwise, it's more a bother than a help, and makes extra work for other editors to find and fix.

In general, I get the feeling that you aren't using the Manual of style, but rather depending on your sense of what is correct in English, according to the way you have been taught, or perhaps what seems logical or correct to you. If that is indeed what you are doing, please stop doing that. Instead, please spend some time with the Manual of style. If I were you, I would stop all edits involving punctuation, until such time as you have a thorough command of the MOS:. If you have any questions, feel free to reply below, or to contact me on my Talk page.

Can I get a response from you, saying that you have read and understood this message? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 06:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay I got your point. I will be extra careful next time. Thanks for the correction. Ngăn chặn kiến (talk) 07:08, 15 April 2023 (UTC)