User talk:NgarigoKnowledgeHolder

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Happy editing! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:19, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Notable people lists
In general, at Wikipedia, when there is a list of notable people in an article (such as Ngarigo), we restrict that list to people who already have Wikipedia articles. And, at the very least, when we add any content to an article, it must be verifiable by citations to reliable sources. When you find yourself saying "... as far as we know", you can rest assure that you've strayed past the realm of verifiable content and your material probably shouldn't be included. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:19, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, really, you will, at the very least, require reliable sources for these additions. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * When you make a claim that I some how have stated "As far as we know" it is false and I for one would be mindful of making false statements as I would not be astray from filing a defamation suit agains't you. On that note I also would appreciate that Non-Aboriginal people especially Non-Ngarigo people stop attempting to erase our peoples history and its notable people. We the Ngarigo people and tribe are aware that there is an attempt to change our history and this will not be taken likely. It is not my content thank you, I am simply undoing any changes of notable people such as erasing information about notable Ngarigo people and quite powerful Ngarigo people at that trying to erase such people as they play an important role within our people, country and culture is a form of cultural abuse and legal action can be take as a class action by the Ngarigo people. attempts to erase our people especially these notable people have caused offence to multiple Ngarigo people and a formal complaint has been filed with wikipedia from a lawyer that has written to the company.
 * P.s Merry Christmas. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 16:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You probably don't understand the purpose of Wikipedia. See WP:NOTADVOCACY, WP:NOLEGALTHREATS. Change should start elsewhere, notable change will inevitably find itself on Wikipedia. Sungodtemple (talk &#8226; contribs) 16:44, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * My Advice to you and anyone else that wishes to erase Aboriginal history from the Ngarigo tribe, DON'T. A lawyer is now involved and a class action is soon to be filed by my people. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 16:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A few points:
 * Do you deny that your edit to Ngarigo contains the sentence Tammy is a Ngarigo Elder and currently a director of her tribe as far as we are aware. in relation to Tammy Wilesmith?
 * You are currently in violation of Wikipedia's three revert rule which means that you are engaged in edit warring, a practice whereby you repeatedly revert other users' edits to retain your own preferred version of an article.
 * Do not make legal threats against Wikipedia or your fellow editors or you will lose your editing privileges.
 * Wikipedia is a collaborative process; asking other editors to "stay out of things that are none of their business" is not how things work here.
 * Wikipedia is verifiable, which means that if you add content, we must be able to verify it through reliable sources. The content you have added has no such sources, and is thus subject to removal at any time.
 * I won't revert your editing for now. But I will bring this conversation to the attention of administrators for their review. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:49, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, one made legal threats, I was simply informing you of a class action that will be filed if members of this wikipedia continue to attempt to erase our notable people and a legal letter has been sent to wikipedia via a lawyer to have these attempts to erase our people and nation erased or damaged even changed in anyway. I advise if you continue to make false claims the lawyer will be contacted and given your user name and they can retrieve your details.
 * Merry Christmas NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 16:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, one made legal threats, I was simply informing you of a class action that will be filed
 * This is literally a legal threat. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 17:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, actually its not it is advising that person that my people have sort a lawyer and yeah. wow some of you claim to be smart yeah right clearly not :P NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 18:25, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Your knowledge of English is so poor there's no use in you editing here anyway. And yes, trying the "I'm just telling you a class action will be filed" bullshit argument is a legal threat. Try it again with your next sockpuppet and you'll get the same results. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 15:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

December 2023
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Ngarigo, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. In addition, do not make legal threats againts Wikipedia or other editors, as you may be blocked. Trim02 (talk) 16:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Your editing is being discussed at the Adminstrators' noticeboard
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding legal threats and edit warring. The discussion is about the topic Topic. Thank you. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Indefinite block
 You have been blocked temporarily from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. El_C 17:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I informed this user that attempting to erase Aboriginal peoples culture, people or country is a form of abuse and erasing notable people is classed as cultural abuse and is illegal in Australia. I also informed this user that a legal letter has been sent to wikipedia and that this user was warned   not to make false claims or I would seek a defamation lawsuit agains't him. I did not write the information that himself  and 2 others continue to attempt  to erase I simply undo it as they have  caused harm among my people and insulted my people by attempted to erase to extremely notable people from our history. I am not sure if  any of you actually know my tribe but due to almost being wiped out we are a secretive people and do not share to much about our customs or famous people. I simply ask that it stops as this matter will be taken further legally if required. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 17:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The legal letter simply askes that wikipedia stop allowing users to erase my peoples history and its people and that failure to do so would result in a class action by my people. NOT ME! and secondly I want WikiDan blocked for making false claims that I added any information when I did not I simply undid the erased history or notable people due to it being falsely erased. My tribe and people are critically endangered and we are quite often a private people because of the murder and genocide that happened against my people. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 17:19, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * NgarigoKnowledgeHolder, if you categorically withdraw any legal threats against Wikipedia or any of its editors, you may be unblocked. But you are not permitted to continue editing while legal action is pending. So, in order to regain your editing privileges, you could wait until the legal matter has been resolved, or as mentioned, withdraw it outright. Thank you. El_C 17:25, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make sense as I am not the one who had a lawyer send a letter to stop erasing our peoples history. I would like an apology from WikiDan as he falsely stated I wrote it when I did not. and advising someone that defaming someone could lead them in legal trouble is not threatening its warning. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 17:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Regardless, unless you, yourself, commit to not mentioning such legal action in the course of editing disputes, you will remain blocked until the matter has been resolved in the courts. Also, unless there is a privacy component, I'd rather this be discussed out in the open rather than through email. Thanks again. El_C 17:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Admins should take note that the article has now been edited several times (same edits as this user) by an IP. Page protection has been requested. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I request that a higher Admin become involved one that is independent as you are bias cheers and you are allowing WikiDan61 to falsely accuse me of things. P.s clearly you fail to understand a lawyer has simply sent a letter to wikipedia requesting that users on this platform stop erasing and picking and choosing what is fact and what is fiction so there will be no court case if users stop falsely erasing and being racist to the ngarigo people. that has nothing to do with me and the bullying that has happened I would like to file a complaint against WikiDan61 cheers. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 18:32, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * There is no "higher admin," and your claim of bias or lack of independence seems to have been invented out of thin air because you did not get the outcome you wanted. Which reflects poorly on you, I'd argue. You are free to request an unblock (instructions in the block template), but if this is your reasoning, the chance of it succeeding approaches zero. Also, if you attack anyone again (diff), I'll revoke your access to edit this user talk page. El_C 18:42, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That is a threat, and I have spoken to the other elders and seeing as the Ngarigo people we own the information, We have decided that the whole page be removed from wikipedia as non of you are Aboriginal nor are any of you Ngarigo so please remove this page regarding the Ngarigo people.
 * Cheers. you have allowed wikiDan to harass and bully and over looked this. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 19:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Call it what you will, but you do not get to WP:OWN a page by virtue of a stated affinity with its subject matter. Also, you keep mentioning that wikiDan has harassed and bullied you without proof, which is also an attack (an WP:ASPERSION). Final warning. El_C 19:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * excuse me, he has by making false claims literally have a look NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 19:17, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * you are simply refusing to acknowledge it, i request a different admin cheers. and we own the information and no longer give permission for wikipedia to use or share it. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 19:19, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Request denied. You made the claim of harassment and bullying, so the burden is on you to prove this with specific evidence (in the form of WP:DIFFs). You do not own the information unless there is copyrights infringement, which needs proof, as well. El_C 19:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you understand anything about Australian indigenous people under the law they hold copyrights to country, people and culture this includes history, language, arts, tribe names etc ngarigo meaning snow people in english is legally owned by the ngarigo people and now we have withdrawn support or wikipedia to use any information relating to our people. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * and if you are lacking basic understanding indigenous cultures are also protected under the United Nations so I take it your American and it wouldn't surprise me. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 19:34, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * and I also read if I request a different Admin I can you actually cannot refuse it. NgarigoKnowledgeHolder (talk) 19:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That is not how information and education works. Talk page access revoked. Please refer to the template below for your appeal options. El_C 19:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Talk page access revoked
 Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked as an administrator has identified your talk page edits as inappropriate and/or disruptive. ([ block log] • [ active blocks] • [ global blocks] • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • [ abuse filter log] • [ creation log] • change block settings • [ unblock] • [ checkuser] ([ log]) )

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, you should read the guide to appealing blocks, then contact administrators by submitting a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. Please note that there could be appeals to the unblock ticket request system that have been declined leading to the post of this notice. El_C 19:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

CU confirmed sock of User:ThatAboriginalKid
Doug Weller talk 14:13, 20 December 2023 (UTC)