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Chinese naming conventions
Oh right, apologies. I've just checked Naming conventions (Chinese) and you're right. Best, PeterSymonds | talk  10:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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Hi. I'm impressed with the logos you've created, they're very striking. In case it's of any use, I noticed that at Template:Non-free_use_rationale it suggests using "SVG will be rendered at low resolutions" in the resolution field of the template. Ha! (talk) 01:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hello. I saw that you created File:Catholic Diocese of Hong Kong.svg. Shouldn't the image have something on the central pillar, as shown on the coat of arms on the diocesan page? Also, I was wondering if you could create a comparable-quality version of File:Zen motto.jpg, since aside from the violet hat, the image is very similar? Thank you. Gimmetrow 00:02, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Please stop messing with the Swine flu page
Please more read about New York and Hong Kong because jumping into any conclusion. If Hong Kong is like New York, why HK has its own currency? and how come all HK's website ends with .hk ? As far as I know, there is no such currency named "New York dollor" nor any New York's website ends with .ny. I will appreciate if u stop comparing HK to NY. --Da Vynci (talk) 15:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I never doubt the autonomy of Hong Kong. It is simply because the heading column is country. And you are putting a non-country item in a country column. That's all. I have no other political or any other stands. -Ngckmax (talk) 15:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * If u honestly never doubt the autonomy of Hong Kong, I wonder why u stated "Hong Kong is just like New York City", knowing that New Yorks City doesn't have NY dollar and doesn't have a different official language from the rest of USA. If u honestly never doubt the autonomy of Hong Kong, u would know it is often treated just like a country on international setting in practice. What written on papaer isn't always correct, just like North Korea's official name is Democratic People's Republic of Korea, does it means we should put that into the list of democratic countries on the world? --Da Vynci (talk) 18:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know why you keep on stressing my wrong comparison between Hong Kong and New York City. Yes, I agree with you that Hong Kong is not comparable to New York City. (New York City is like Shanghai of China, agree?) But it doesn't affect my stand. I just want to give that example to show that Hong Kong is not a country. Regarding Hong Kong is treated independently from China, Yes of course I agree (I'm born and raised in Hong Kong, educated by the western system, reading foreign news everyday). But have you noticed that in such occasions, for example in Olympics and APEC, "Hong Kong, China" should be used. It's widely adopted in all international organizations and foreign ministries of other countries.


 * And very important, it's based on the Sino-British Joint Declaration and Basic Law (Article 151). Never initiated by me. Please read the Basic Law in detail. -Ngckmax (talk) 19:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

(sorry i have to reply here to keep the conversation continuious)

Just to remind you, adding the word ",China" behind Hong Kong serves no identification purpose at all, as Hong Kong has been using the name Hong Kong as a country name for more than 150 years. As a result, it is clearly not about identification, the only plausible function of adding the word ",China" is political, a tool that the Communist propaganda use to belittle Hong Kong to, as you precisely pointed out earlier, a mere city. However, the primary function of a name is to identify, not to cater propaganda intents. If you really want to follow what is propagated name (Hong Kong, China) instead of what the de facto name (Hong Kong) is, perhaps you should also start believing Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democratic country and start referring North Korea as Democratic Korea? --Da Vynci (talk) 05:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Whether Hong Kong is technically a country is not important here because, on wikipedia the de factos is often priortized over the propagated. That's why most articles refers Republic of China as Taiwan, not Chinese Taipei (except few articles like Olympic & WHO). Names used in Olympics are sometime politically engineered but hardly commonly used, since when you have heard Jay Chou is referred as Chinese Taipei singer instead of Taiwanese singer? --Da Vynci (talk) 05:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know why you always relate the issue to politics and accuse me of thinking politics while I am actually not. (Are you overly sensitive?) I really don't know why you would think of Communist propaganda as Hong Kong is not a country (a simple neutral fact), while Hong Kong is to attend country-level occasion, just to indicate it is not a country and its sovereignty state. This indication to its sovereignty state cannot make people think of any propaganda as all, as a politically neutral people, it's just for clarification when others find a non-country territory here. For its indication of its sovereignty, I don't know anything wrong, Hong Kong is far away to compare with Taiwan. (This time you are using wrong comparison.) Except you are, from the beginning to the end, an anti-China/Communist person.


 * Moreover, don't don't don't impose any of your creative thinking on me, e.g. believing North Korea is a democratic state. Before you have evidence that show I might have this thinking. I just have nothing to say when you adding this imaginary thinking on the others. --Ngckmax (talk) 00:51, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Again you fail to understand the difference between de facto and de jure. Hong Kong has been commonly treated as a country internationally in practice for 150+ years, whether technically it is one or not. This explains why everytime when you tried to mess with it, almost immediately there are somebody else resotred it.

If the name "Hong Kong, China" that you bought up as "evidence" to claim Hong Kong is a mere city, the name Democratic People's Republic of Korea could also be bought up as "evidence" to claim North Korea as a demorcatic country.

Name could be misleading sometimes. --Da Vynci (talk) 12:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

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