User talk:Nhrenton

Welcome!

Hello,, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~&#126;); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! Melchoir 08:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page
 * Help pages
 * Tutorial
 * How to write a great article
 * Manual of Style

Erawan NP and other help
It was a pleasure to give your articles some polishing, especially as they are about the topic I try to take care most - Thailand. As I wrote the article on Si Sawat district just shortly ago I remembered that it had a good photo for the park already, and adding the missing links towards those articles, or fixing the categories was easy when knowing almost every article on Thailand at least a bit.

The help on how to write articles, how to links, images and more complicate stuff like table, is of course also available in other languages, though it of course depends on how much active the respective Wikipedia - so the english Help:Contents in Thai is at th:วิกิพีเดีย:ความช่วยเหลือ, in koreanish at ko:위키백과:도움말 and so on - simply see the Interwiki links in left toolbar. But for example in Lao there's no translation of the help, as the Lao Wikipedia is still in its infancy with nearly no contributors. But the Wiki markup is supposed to be rather easy, so it should be possible to grasp a lot just by looking at the source code of other articles. But as you have already seen, there'll always be someone to take care of the things you started and polish it. And in case you have a specific question you also ask me, or any other experienced Wikipedian.

By the way, School and university projects will probably give you some more hints on how to use Wikipedia in your classes most effectively. I am looking forward to your and your students contributions about Thailand, there's still a lot topics missing and incomplete short articles only, like the WikiProject Thai districts I am currently working on... andy 21:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Andy Okay--but not being a computer expert, I find I get lost; I'll work my way into things gradually. I'll check out the education site for our Winter quarter that begins in January I've been doing a lot of Mongolian stuff as well. Do you read Thai, or is your Lebensgefaerhte a Thai?--I have a Korean wife. You seem to know Lao as well a little; I gather the languages are akin. One request: I'd like to add a Franzl Lang image to my article about him. I tried reading the tutorial and found the image, but got stuck on the question of public use.


 * I've added the image from the German article, guess that was the one you intended to add. I can read a bit Thai, only when it comes to the rare letters I get lost sometimes. But my main problem is the lack of vocabulary, though I am learning it for three years now it's still a long way to go until I can read a normal text without checking a dictionary (or asking my wife) every second word. You guessed right - my wife is a Thai. But for Lao I don't know anything, all I did with that language so far was copy-and-paste... But given the historical relations between the two countries I am also interested into Lao topics a bit. andy 21:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

image not appearing
Thanks, Andy. I'm not getting the link on either the de or Eng Franzl Lang site--just a red x. Is that a problem with me or the image?

I also added a something about nicknames on the Thai culture page. Perhaps you could run it by the panraya. (Grueese an die Frau Doktor Gemahlin!; do you speak English together most of the time?). By the way, that article seems pretty poor. . . Any suggestions?


 * For the image I made a bug report at bugzilla, apparently the plus character in the image name makes problems. There are sometimes problems with images not showing up, so when I added that photo and it didn't show I did not think about it much. But as it now still does not work, and other images show, I noticed that the image name contains a potentially problematic character. Now lets see when a developer will have time to fix this small bug.


 * Sadly my wife does not enjoy editing here, but your new section fit with all of my knowledge, otherwise I would have changed it already. The names in Thailand IMHO could well be made into an article on it own, there are quite a lot of topics - the usage of first names in most cases, the history of the last names, special last names like "na Ranong", historical names which were in fact more a title than a name. There's an article de:Thailändische Familiennamen in German, so far noone started it in English however. But you can add it in the "requested articles" section of Thailand notice board if you don't have time or knowledge to start it yourself... andy 18:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * My wife has similar computer loathing; I'll look at the German article and put s.th. together in English. Thanks.

--Nick

Andy--just called it "Thai names." Nothing great, but it's a start. --Nick

Tuul
Created redirect to Tuul River.

For future reference, the format is #REDIRECT PAGENAME. - CobaltBlueTony 17:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Tony. I tried that (without the   ) business on a new page--didn't work; is there another entity called a "redirect page?"  Or I just type this on the "create a new article?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhrenton (talk • contribs) 12:36, November 30, 2006


 * PAGENAME is the name of the page to which you would like the page you're creating to redirect to.


 * For example:
 * The page [[Tuul ]] 's only content is #REDIRECT  [[Tuul River ]].
 * Hope this helps. - CobaltBlueTony 17:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! - CobaltBlueTony 17:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Migjid Janraisig
Why did you make a new article about Migjid Janraisig when there is already an article on Avalokiteshvara?&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!) 06:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Migjid Janraisig article history
I came across MJ (and thus wrote that article first) in a purely Mongolian (travel) context--so it took me a while to figure out that the two were the same deity; my Mongolian sources didn't seem to know (or consider important) the Avalokiteshvara name.

The ignorance seemed to be mutual; the Buddhism articles seemed to be largely silent on Mongolian contexts. For example, I found it interesting that the Avalokiteshvara article entirely omitted this Mongolian name--I have since added it to the Avalokiteshvara article. The reason lies in Mongolian Buddhism reawakening after a 70-year nap, I guess; Mongolia and Buddhism seem to be rediscovering each other.

Anyway, I think the Mongolian name with its accompanying context certainly deserves its own entry. But I would be happy to put the Avalokiteshvara link in a more prominent position: "Migjid Janraisig, widely known as Avalokiteshvara in other countries, is the Mongolian buddha of compassion . . ."

Finally, the identity and nomenclature of bodhisattvas seem to be theologically tricky questions; I rather reckon that Mongolian Buddhists might be offended to be redirected to Avalokiteshvara.Nhrenton 12:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You can undo the redirect yourself as well - see Help:Reverting. However I think that redirect is correct, though it might have been nicer to first put a notice with the on the article, so this change can be discussed first. Normally we avoid to have more than one article on the same topic, so a section within Avalokiteshvara covering the things specific to Mongolian tradition is the IMHO better approach, as otherwise we'd have many articles which repeat all the things common in the different traditions. Only if that section gets too long it can be made into a separate article, same as e.g. the article on Thailand has only a short introduction on the geography and leads you to a separate detailed article with the  template.
 * A different note - you put your request on my userpage, but to talk with others you should use the User talk page, i.e. User talk:Ahoerstemeier. Only for that one I would get the notification that I have a new message, while the user page is to present yourself, collect notes etc. andy 16:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Bogda Khan
I saw your article on Bogda Khan. Thanks for creating that. I'm not completely sure what the correct title should be, though. "Bogda Khan" seems to be rare outside of Wikipedia; "Bogdo Khan" is a bit more common; "Bogd Khan" seems to be quite common, but most of the references seem to be to a place rather than to the person. Can you give some information on how it is spelled or pronounced in Mongolian?&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 23:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Let me ask around; I'll try to get the nominative form. Please feel free to change it to Bogdo; we had better include all of the other forms. There may be some muddle in how to deal with Tibetan borrowings, or Romanization sytems for Cyrillic. In neither subject can I muster much expertise.


 * Well, which do you think best represents the standard pronunciation?&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 17:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Bogd Kan--the Bogdha Khan pronunciation is only known by someone fairly adept in the old alphabet--a well-educated Mongolian.Nhrenton 17:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I got it taken care of. See: Bogd Khan. Cheers, Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 07:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Romanisation of Mongolian
Nhrenton, I thought you might be interested in the conversation ongoing at Wikipedia talk:Romanisation of Mongolian. We're trying to develop a standard for writing Mongolian on Wikipedia. I hope you can give some input. Cheers, Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 19:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Funny, I always thought you were Mongolian (altho', I have to admit, your name doesn't sound Mongolian). You sure seem to know a lot about Mongolia.&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 22:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Mongolia work group
Hi, I'd like to invite you to the Mongolia work group of the WikiProject Central Asia. You're welcome to add that page to your watchlist and participate in discussions there. So far, many general discussions about topics related to Mongolia have been discussed on individual user's talk pages, away from the attention of a wider audience. I hope that a centralized talk page will make communication between all of us easier. If a question doesn't primarily concern just one specific user, then the work group is probably the right place to ask it. See you there! --Latebird (talk) 06:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Wild fresney
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Wild fresney, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add  to the top of Wild fresney. Matchups (talk) 04:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Wild fresney
An editor has nominated Wild fresney, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Nhrenton! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 2 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 05:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Tsogtyn Batbayar -
 * 2) Tom Rozum -

Maukka Perusjätkä
Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Maukka Perusjätkä. The community has decided that all new biographies of living persons must contain a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article as per our verifiability policy. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:11, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Maukka Perusjätkä


The article Maukka Perusjätkä has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners or ask at Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Gigs (talk) 14:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Thai (cannabis)


The article Thai (cannabis) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "No reliable sources or anything that remotely addressed WP:GNG."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Kingofaces43 (talk) 19:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Thai (cannabis) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Thai (cannabis) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Thai (cannabis) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Kingofaces43 (talk) 03:13, 5 June 2018 (UTC)