User talk:Nia.wil

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– the WikiProject Medicine team --Jytdog (talk) 00:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I was just about to come here and tell her a lot of the same content. Medical topics are things that should be very, very carefully addressed as there are a lot of guidelines for this area. This is covered in the editing medical topics module. One of the main things that I can stress is that you should avoid using studies as a source unless the study has been covered in an independent reliable source. One reason for this is that studies are primary sources for the research they create. For example, let's say that I conducted a study and said that the results proved that apples improved health and decreased doctor visits. We can't use this to back up the claim that "an apple a day keeps the doctors away" because there would be no proof that my study was actually reliable or verified. It could be that I was performing the study on behalf of an apple company and as such, were swayed by their support. It could also be that my research is not able to be reproduced, meaning that my research can't be verified. Now if my study was covered in academic journals where they discussed my research as well as other studies that replicated the content, we could use the study as a source - however the study would still need to be accompanied by a secondary source. There are some other issues with this, but that's one of the biggest reasons. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Shalor (Wiki Ed) your advice about how to write about biomedical information is not correct. Nia.wil please disregard that advice. Please simply find sources that comply with MEDRS and summarize them. Jytdog (talk) 20:58, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that - my intent was basically to show Nia why studies are seen as primary sources and to show that the amount of sourcing needed to verify and justify the addition of a primary source study is fairly large. I'll be more careful about this in the future. Basically Nia, you should avoid using studies while sourcing articles. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:11, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hello, Nia.wil, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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