User talk:Niagara/Archive 6

Kinzua Bridge PR
I will be glad to take a look at it - probably won't get to it until this weekend though. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Me too. I am going to print it and do a blue pen edit and then do a link check. I will start on it shortly. This could be a step toward getting the state park up to FA as well. Glad to help. Dincher (talk) 23:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Dincher (talk) 00:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I was able to understand the tornado bits easily enough. Dincher (talk) 21:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The expanded lead looks good too. Dincher (talk) 22:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Whenever you want me to copyedit it, just say the word - I like the new material on the collapse and other work since the PR began. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I need to look it up in my two histories of PA state parks and see if there is anything to add there, plus reread the article carefully. I should get som,e done this weekend. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Delisted NRHP properties
I'm finishing preparations to put Iowa into tables; although the state is at this moment still a simple list of names, I have the tables on my computer, almost ready to post. Delistings, however, are a problem. Twenty Iowa counties have at least one delisted property (some very recently, most not), and I'd like to see them in little tables in a way similar to what you put on McKean County, Pennsylvania. Can you help me do this once I place the tables on the Iowa counties? I think I'll just hide them and wait for you or anyone else to improve them past a simple little list of links. FYI, I've placed essentially the same message as this on Doncram's talk page. Nyttend (talk) 18:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Another Alaska map request
It seems that the Ketchikan Gateway Borough has annexed the Outer Ketchikan portion of the Prince of Wales-Outer Ketchikan Census Area, causing it to be renamed the Prince of Wales-Hyder Census Area. Could you make two more maps: one being Ketchikan Gateway at its new size (as a separate file from the old), and the other being Prince of Wales-Hyder? The current maps are here and here for Ketchikan Gateway and POWOK respectively. For sources, you can check this Census Bureau map from 2000 (upon which the current maps are based) and this map from Ketchikan Gateway Borough. To me, it appears that the borough now consists of everything except two pieces: (1) the big island of which the western half of the old census area consisted, and (2) Hyder, just a small bulge on the Canadian border. In short, the borough seems to have annexed northern and southern islands and virtually the entire mainland of the census area. Thanks much! Nyttend (talk) 05:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've rearranged things a little: as some templates (such as the ones used to produce the tables at List of boroughs and census areas in Alaska) automatically display a map with the basic name format, I've reuploaded the new version of the map at File:Map of Alaska highlighting Ketchikan Gateway Borough.svg and moved the old one to File:Map of Alaska highlighting Ketchikan Gateway Borough in 2000.svg.  This leaves File:Map of Alaska highlighting Ketchikan Gateway Borough 2.svg isolated; would you be willing to request deletion?  Nyttend (talk) 17:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the new maps. I noticed that File:Map of Alaska highlighting the Unorganized Borough.svg and File:Map of Alaska highlighting Yakutat City and Borough.svg are still out of date. Would you be willing to update them as well? --Lasunncty (talk) 10:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yakutat extends farther west than the current map depicts. See this Yakutat map and this Alaska map for reference.  --Lasunncty (talk) 10:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, good call. Thank you much!  --Lasunncty (talk) 08:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

reorganizing NRHP list-articles within List of RHPs in MA
Given some recent stirrings of interest wrt NRHP articles in MA, including someone with a lot of corrected coordinates to add, I'd like to fix up List of RHPs in MA. It would be great if you'd further help there. I was just beginning to do convert Norfolk county list-tables into Elkman format, and I noticed you already converted Norfolk'sNational Register of Historic Places listings in Brookline, Massachusetts into Elkman-table format. Since I would have done Brookline by generating an Elkman county-wide table, and extracting the Brookline rows, I wonder if you have a usefully revised starter table(s) for the other Norfolk areas. Perhaps you could share or finish the job yourself? Please comment at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Massachusetts.... Thanks, doncram (talk) 17:18, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Kinzua bridge question
I finally have some time and dug out my two state park histories and will add some from them to the Kinzua Bridge article and do a copyedit. Do you want me to ask about major changes first, or should I be bold? As one example, I thought of starting the state park section a paragraph earlier (with the sale of the bridge for salvage). I also reread most of the online sources and there are a few bits I was going to add. Let me know how to proceed, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:53, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. I will work on it tonight. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * My one book and this website both give the date of listing on the National Register of Historic Civil Engineering Landmarks as 1982, so I changed that - it was 1977 before. Is this OK? Also do you have a cost for the reconstructed bridge - I assume the $275,000 given here is the cost of the rebuilt 1900 bridge. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:40, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I am almost done - this sentence is missing the wind speed An investigation determined that the tornado had a wind speed of at least, which applied an estimated 90 short tons-force (800 kN) of lateral force on to the bridge.[23] and I did not see it in the ref cited. Can you find it please and add it? I will be away from my computer for the next half hour at least and am working on Aftermath next. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Work on Kinzua Bridge is looking pretty good. I'd say it's a good head start on another FA for yet another park. Dincher (talk) 18:50, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I am done with the copyedit - I am going to ask User:Michael Devore to check for typos, may ask User:Finetooth to look at one sentence, and then I think it is ready for FAC (if you do). I plan to support it at FAC (as long as you think that is OK, this was a fairly invlolved series of edits and I may be seen as too involved with the article). I hope my edits are OK, please revert if there are errors or you don't like what I did. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I will support and make full disclosure of my edits at FAC. I wondered about adding two more things: there is a mention of the number of spans in the collapse report (I think it was 42). I tended not to add every detail of the bridge structure, but that might be worth adding. I also think the HAER photos page would be a good external link. I see Michael has found a few typos already. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Philadelphia
Why do you say that there are 8 planning districts? I'm confused, as the talk page discussion we had clearly established that there are 12 such districts. Nyttend (talk) 16:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't confused about the lists; I simply meant at the top, where you changed the number of planning districts. Nyttend (talk) 18:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Take a look see
I figured since you offered I'd take you up on it. Before I go making the actual change I figured I'd get you opinion on the other two pages I'm working on. List of Buffalo Sabres Draft Picks is pretty much finished. It's been looked over twice now, but I figure once more can't hurt. And Erie Otters is obviously the revised Otters page I'm working on. Not a ton of changes there. Just some reorganizing and some updating of statistics. I also reworded some things as well. Infero Veritas (talk) 03:41, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and a request
Thanks for signing up at Peer review/volunteers and for your work doing reviews. It is now just over a year since the last peer review was archived with no repsonse after 14 (or more) days, something we all can be proud of. There is a new Peer review user box to track the backlog (peer reviews at least 4 days old with no substantial response), which can be found here. To include it on your user or talk page, please add. Thanks again, and keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

User Pages
So I've studied the source on your userpage, but I'm still thinking I'm missing something. What is the "FULLPAGENAME" part, and how do I replicate it...minus the whole similarities in color/shape/style, etc.Infero Veritas (talk) 18:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

NRHP list-article practices
I asked, over at User talk:Marcbela, for Marcbela to take care to do some disambiguation-related stuff when doing county/state list-articles. I wonder if i could ask you to do the same stuff, perhaps you do most but not all of it. In particular I would appreciate more eyes noticing problems with dab pages and using the "NRHP dab needing cleanup" tag to identify the problems, so that i can come fix them. Anyhow, I'd appreciate if you could take a look at what i wrote out at Marcbela's page. I've asked Nyttend and Sanfranman59, who i think are the others most active in doing NRHP tables now, too. Thanks, doncram (talk) 03:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Assessment
It's not entirely done...actually, it's not anywhere near done. BUT if you get the chance, could you check out a page I'm working on and just lookover the structure I have set up for it. I've entered some bullet point ideas to expand on so far. Click Here. Infero Veritas (talk) 15:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The photo is one of about 1,000 floating around on various websites chronicling the historical markers of Pa. This one is indeed mine...so is the welding on the sign lol. I'll add some sources to it before I leave work today (unless something crazy happens...like...we get something to do). Infero Veritas (talk) 17:53, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't have a higher res image currently...but once the giant pile of snow in front of it melts I can take one. What sort of resolution are you thinking? I'm just wondering because it looks decent on the page, just not when you blow it up. And no worries about being skeptical. I still get people that try to tell me Colt's Station doesn't exist, and I politely send them on a tour of Greenfield. I put some of the references on the page as well. Most of those are similar to the ones used for the Judah Colt page, my others are on my computer in my office at home. Infero Veritas (talk) 18:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Harry Kellar
I reverted his/her edits and left WP:3RR and copyvio warnings on the user's talk page. If they make another edit, I can block them for 3RR. If it continues, I can protect the article. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I am also watching the article and the user's talk page, but always appreciate a heads up. How's the bridge article coming? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I blocked the user for 3RR for a short time. I am watching the bridge and will support at FAC. Travel safely, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

peer review question
Thank you very much for peer reviewing University of California, San Diego. However, I don't quite understand the relevance of pointing out the redirects. Do they really matter regarding Good or Featured Article status? --Cybercobra (talk) 03:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Kinzua Bridge Aftermath
I already read the newspaper article and will reread the Aftermath section and add a bit - will probably take me several hours. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I added some to the Aftermath section and reordered it a bit so the last paragraph is only about rebuilding now - is this OK? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

peer review request
Hi, Dtbohrer. I saw your name on the WP:Cities peer reviewers list and just wanted to say I would be thrilled if you would help out by peer reviewing the Spokane, Washington article. Thanks for your consideration, Anon134 (talk) 02:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Reliable source for climate data
Hi. I'm looking for a reliable source for climate statistics, and thought you might be able to help. I used Weatherbase.com for weather data for Hillsboro, Oregon, but the RS question has arisen at FAC. I'm hoping that you might be able to suggest a source that clearly meets the RS requirements. Thanks in advance for any advice. Finetooth (talk) 17:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Excellent advice. I have used it to adjust and re-source the data. Finetooth (talk) 19:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations on the FA star for Kinzua Bridge. Finetooth (talk) 06:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ditto on the congrats - keep up the good work! Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I really like the pictures in the thank-spam - nice contrast. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Michigan lists
Thanks for moving all the Michigan NRHP lists; I got some of them a while back, but never got around to finishing. Nyttend (talk) 03:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm enjoying vacation, and enjoying the chance it gives me to get lots of NRHP pictures that I'd never be able to get otherwise :-) Look at the lists for Boulder and Larimer counties as I gradually add pictures.  As far as Michigan: I've always wondered a little about those.  In my mind, it would be best to redirect them to the statewide list and then add a note at the top, somewhat like what you did for the listing-free Cameron County, Pennsylvania.  However, these have been separate for some time, so I didn't want to do that without any input from someone else.  Nyttend (talk) 04:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

invitation
You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at WikiProject Council/Proposals ! :) doncram (talk) 05:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks for moving that to my talk page. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 10:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

WP:HSITES
WikiProject Historic Sites is opened up. I took the liberty of assuming your support for the wikiproject meant you wanted to join as a member, and I copied your signature to the Members list on the main page. Please visit and add to, or remove, your listing there. It would be great to hear about what you're interested in the Wikiproject being, in your member comment and/or at the Talk page, shortcut wt:HSITES. Thanks for your support! doncram (talk) 17:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Kinzua Bridge
Is there anyone else who was a major contributor who might deserve some recognition? --IvoShandor (talk) 07:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * -) Just seeing it was enough. I just wanted everyone else to see it too. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:00, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi D.B.,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:B-36 tracked gear edit.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on April 4, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-04-04.  howcheng  {chat} 22:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

ND delistings
Just saw you record all those delistings in North Dakota; do you know why? I really don't pay attention to delisted sites, so I haven't a clue where to find information like this. Is it perhaps related to that flooding that they just had in North Dakota in the last few weeks? It just seems a little fast for all that; but I noticed that most sites were bridges, so that's why I'm thinking flooding. Nyttend (talk) 02:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, wasn't questioning the idea of recording delistings; I simply meant "do you know why they were delisted". But do give me a note if you find out more information about these sites :-)  Nyttend (talk) 03:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Weird, I wonder what the buyer is going to do with it, put it in his front yard? Next thing you know, someone will take a bridge from the UK and put it in Arizona.  Thanks.  Nyttend (talk) 17:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Flagship Niagara closing?
I figured you saw this report or the news articles like this. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I love the Facebook idea. Joseph Priestley House is having a meeting with the PHMC Director and local legislators on April 9. See here Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 11:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

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Goodrich, North Dakota
Do you know what happened to the Winter House? It seems to have been falling apart in 1983, and a delisting request was filed last month, but that's all I can find. Nyttend (talk) 00:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
For updating the NRHP lists. Specifically, National Register of Historic Places listings in Sarasota County, Florida. :) --Ebyabe (talk) 16:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Nice work on Kinzua Bridge
Being the meteorology nut that I am, I quite enjoyed reading that article (especially the destruction section). Just a random post to say thanks for your work in bringing that to featured status. :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 23:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Since you live in the area
I saw your work on Kinzua Bridge, I could've helped with pics, because I was there in October 2008, but a computer crash took them victim. I recently expanded Pennsylvania Route 646, which is about 3 miles from the viaduct. If you want to get images as well, I can enjoy working with you on it. Mitchazenia : Chat   Trained for the pen 00:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your kind words on White Deer Hole Creek. It was promoted over 2 years ago and I had already nominated it for the Main Page before the closure of Joseph Priestley House was proposed - then Awadewit suggested we ask Raul654 to put the house on the Main Page too, and the rest is history. If you nominate Erie at WP:TFAR let me know and I will be glad to support. I think Hyner View State Park is the next FAC drive (after Cherry Springs State Park, which is at PR now), then I figured Kinzua Bridge State Park could be next for the push to FAC - is that OK with you? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks - my assumption was Kinzua Bridge SP could be a triple nom at FAC - you, Dincher, and me. Also I seem to recall we had talked about Oil Creek as another possible FA - what a map though! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * FYI, turns out Dincher wants to work on Kinzua as the next stat park FAC Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Your suggestion regarding the code for my user page worked. Thanks a lot!<em style="font-family:Trebuchet MS Italic;"> Wacko Jack <strong style="color:#D2B48C;">O   16:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Page view stats
Thanks very much - I knew they had those stats for DYKs but had not thought to look at them for the TFAs. Oddly enough an article I nominated for DYK in April had about 6,700 views in just 6 hours on the Main Page here. I just hope the publicity does some good to help keep the Priestley House and other PHMC properties open. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I know Awadewit let the Priestley House know the article would be on the Main Page, not sure if it was publicized elsewhere. I googled to see if it was in the news, but did not find it anywhere. I also noted there was a bump in Big Runaway, which is linked on White Deer Hole Creek, so there are colateral spikes. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hermione rules! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:00, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Now I feel better - an 80,000% increase - woohoo! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Another delistings question
Do you know if there's a central repository for dates of NRHP delistings? Something going on at the Mahoning County, Ohio list has made me wonder more about how we reference delistings, because the dates aren't given even for those sites that are delisted and marked as such in the NRIS. Nyttend (talk) 16:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)