User talk:Niagara/Archive 9

peer review?
hey. Awhile ago you peer reviewed Sacred Cod of Massachusetts for me and thank you so much for it. I have just put up another article I created, List of Smithsonian museums, for peer review and was wondering if you would be up to reviewing it as well. Thanks either way. --Found5dollar (talk) 17:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!--Found5dollar (talk) 01:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

PRR GG1
Sorry to be slow on replying - I got caught up in something on AN/I. I agree that the movies section in the current PRR GG1 article looks pretty crufty. It may be that there are references to do an "In popular culture" section, but without them I agree it looks like OR. is a rail buff and may be able to give you a more informed opinion, perhaps even point you to the refs if they exist.

Thanks for the waterfalls congrats - hope to get it to PR soon and to send out a special thankspam to all who !voted on the images. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I looked on Google books and found this. It also mentions the Lionel train version and PRR calendars. Not sure the current list of movies would fit, but my guess is there is enough for a pop culture section. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 05:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The more I think about, I think it would be OK to use the quote from the Google books source above "the GG1 showed up over the years in more advertisements and movie clips than any other locomotive" and then list the movies where it is obviously a GG1 and use the movie as the ref. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * You are very welcome - I wound up reading the list and making a few PR comments myself. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. I think what would really help the section is a discussion of why the GG1 appears "in popular culture" in the first place. A few sentences on the historical background of streamlining and the Streamline Moderne movement might not go amiss. The GG1 was the first (OK, second, if you count the P5a modifieds) streamlined electric locomotive in the US. So you have a locomotive with a very forward-looking style (streamlining) and a fairly futuristic technology (electric—most streamliners had been steamers, the first streamlined diesel, the Burlington's Zephyr, only preceded the GG1s by about a year) on one of the most prominent railroads in the US; this was what really made it noteworthy. Maybe something about the art of Grif Teller for the PRR bringing it into the public eye? I know Dan Cupper's written a book on Teller. Once the iconicity of the GG1 has been established, I think it's OK to start listing movies, because it's now been explained why the GG1 would figure so prominently in the public eye. I'd probably drop the "Railroad Tycoon" reference, though. Choess (talk) 06:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Maps
Thanks, I knew you'd notice! Glad you like it - the original green color was from the Census map (which makes all parks green). The waterfalls article has a new map and is about ready for PR (finally). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:47, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Dickson Tavern and related articles
Hi, I'm sure you may have spotted this by now, but there now appears to be several sockpuppet accounts attempting to remove the good work you did making the above article relevant for wikipedia. They are all newly created accounts, editing only the articles mentioned above, removing templates they have no business removing. I can't imagine that all the accounts just happen to be different people, all who register in the last day, and only edit these articles. It just seems too obvious. Anyways, just wanted to point this out to you. I had previously edited before your version, but feel that your version is more appropaite and doesn't contain the nonsense that this other user seems to want in the article. 142.68.238.33 (talk) 00:42, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Just seen the post you left for another user on this topic. I see that you do know all about the sock puppets, so sorry for writing all this on your talk page. I should have checked your contributions first. 142.68.238.33 (talk) 00:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem at all, glad to know other people watching as well. I've been trying to incorporate some of what they want without compromising the article, but I guess there's no pleasing some people. ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 01:37, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for PRR 4859

 * Congratulations (and you got the pictured slot too!) Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:54, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Took a long time (DYK seems to be backlogged) and my previous DYK was submitted after this one. I'm hoping to try for more, related articles. ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 05:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Article tagging bot
Back in November, you helped me out by checking a list of categories before they were run through an article tagging bot. Would you be willing to check two more such lists? User:Blargh29/Subcats of Category:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and User:Blargh29/Subcats of Category:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Thanks!--Blargh29 (talk) 05:31, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Sommerheim Park
Are you familiar with Sommerheim Park in Millcreek Township? I've just created Sommerheim Park Archeological District, which you might find interesting. Nyttend (talk) 17:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, the article is currently orphaned; the only two articles that link to it are Millcreek Township and the Erie County NRHP list. Could you help by finding at least one more article to link to it?  Nyttend (talk) 18:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I see you changed the coords; because the NRIS didn't provide coords, I copy/pasted the infobox from another archaeological site and changed the data, but I guess I forgot to change the coords. I didn't observe the spelling difference in the nomination form, however; thanks for pointing that out.  And I echo the annoyance with the snow: I'm impatiently waiting for a combination of spare time and visible grass (both have happened recently, but never at the same time!) to visit the Carl Potter Mound and get a photo.  Thanks for the help!  Nyttend (talk) 20:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Sidewheeler page moves
Hi, I got your message. The reason for the page moves was to standardize the articles by using current ship prefix (see also Steamboat). My thought was to go with one designation on all article pages rather than having multiple styles as Ship Name (sidewheeler), Ship Name (paddle wheel ship) or Ship Name (steamship). WikiProject Ships would probably be the best place to double check the current article name. If you like I'll start a thread there. Shine runner  (talk)   22:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've started a discussion thread at WikiProject Ships. Shine runner   (talk)   10:56, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania
You've been mentioned at the above, as having downloaded the Lancaster County files from ARCH. Did you know that if you have the file names, you can still download the files. I'm looking for the file names for the 22 or so locomotives and cars that are NRHP at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, "East of Strasburg". If you have a "table of contents" with these in it - could you e-mail it to me, or attach it to my user space User:Smallbones/Chester County (who cares if the county name is wrong, I'll know where to look). that way I can download them myself. Any help appreiciated. Smallbones (talk) 05:32, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, I'd appreciate your comment at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania as Nyttend and I are head to head. Thanks. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 12:34, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Got the PDF, all's cool
Got the Penn. RR Rolling Stock TR pdf and that will give me all the info I can handle. It's funny this came up now (as I'm leaving town for a week), but you might check out Southern Chester County PA NRHP listings for my interest in Strasburg Road, which I've been trying to finish up for several weeks. (Same road, different county). Do let me know what other locomotives/stock you'd like me to shoot. I'd guess that I'll try to shoot everything, but close quarters and lent out or in repair stock may limit me.

I'm particularly interested in the CVRR passenger/bagage car, which brought to mind a question that you might be able to help me on (unrelated to the above, and not crucial). Re this text from the CVRR article

" Daniel Tyler was hired in 1850 to supervise the line's rebuilding. He hired Alba Smith as Superintendent of the machinery shop in 1850.  Smith served as Superintendent of the railway from 1851-1856, and helped introduced lighter weight "single-wheel" locomotives on the line.  These locomotives included the Pioneer and the Jenny Lind, bought in 1851, and the Boston and Enterprise bought in 1853-54. In 1999, the Pioneer was moved from its display at the Smithsonian Institution to the as yet unopened National Museum of Industrial History.  "

1. Any idea what ever happened to this museum in Allentown?

2. What ever happened to the Pioneer? and how can we get it back!

Smallbones (talk) 17:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Just found it in Baltimore! at the B&O Museum.  Smallbones (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

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Elk County help
Could you read the discussion at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Elk County, Pennsylvania? I'd appreciate having the URL for the St. Marys HD; could you give me the link if you have it, or email me the form if you don't have the URL? If you'd rather email the form, I'll use Special:EmailUser to send you my email address so that you can reply with the form attached. Nyttend (talk) 03:13, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

More deletion
Would you like me to delete your old user page and user talk page? User talk:Youroldusername redirects here, so that reduces the effectiveness of changing your username. Nyttend (talk) 06:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, just wanted to check; didn't know how important it was for you. Nyttend (talk) 20:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

OK here we go, found the Talk link
I am the webmaster for The Knickerbocker and I live in Linesville.

The statement in the Linesville section about The Knickerbocker is this: One other point of interest in Linesville is The Knickerbocker Hotel. This is now famous for its' appearance on the A&E show, Paranormal State, and was investigated. Their conclusion was that there was nothing paranormal there.

The Knickerbocker has been investigated many times since the Paranormal State Episode and there is a great deal of paranormal interest surrounding The Knickerbocker. The statement, "Their conclusion was that there was nothing paranormal there." is the problem I have.

As to whether or not there is something paranormal there is something of a paradox. If the paranormal could be proven or dis proven it would be a different ball game.

What I can say for an absolute fact is that there is a thriving online and offline community interested in the paranormal that gravitates to The Knickerbocker. Our website gets several hundred visitors a day, mostly to watch our nine live webcams.

If I can not add to the statement to balance it, let's at least take the conclusion out. It does not directly relate to the community of Linesville and it is in fact misleading. The Knickerbocker it a hub of paranormal speculation.

If I remove the statement, "Their conclusion was that there was nothing paranormal there." Will you just put in back? Thank You Tom Deighton 04:43, 8 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom Deighton (talk • contribs)

24 Waterfall salute!

 * The main park article would certainly be a good candidate and probably is it. Could also do Hyner View, or Kinzua Bridge, or Oil Creek ... So much to do. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * PS Sorry to have messed up your talk page with the waterfalls pic... Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Pithole is good too - the problem is there are at least three parks we could get to FA now, then there are a bunch that will need more work. Probably will strike while the Ricketts Glen iron is hot. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:57, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Since you asked, I think the next push is going to be for Quehanna Wild Area. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Image Project
I would like to invite you to The Great Pennsylvania Congressional Image Scrape of 2010.--Blargh29 (talk) 06:06, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Pithole
I have been noticing your good work on Pithole, Pennsylvania. I'm afraid that when I visited, the visitor center was closed, and I did not get a photo of it. There's not much left to see at Pithole. However, I have added an old photo from the Library of Congress website, and a photo of the Grant Well Office now at the Drake Well Museum. Regards, Plazak (talk) 15:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

New PA NRHP articles
FYI, to support disambiguation, i recently created Manchester Historic District (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) and one or two other PA NRHP articles that i'll try to mention later. For the Manchester one, i worked mention into the Manchester (Pittsburgh) article. I imagine having a separate detailed article about the architecture of the HD makes sense, but you may judge differently. Enjoy. :) --doncram (talk) 21:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, could you possibly comment for Canadian2006, author of Greensburg Downtown Historic District (Greensburg, Pennsylvania), about how to get PA NRHP documents now. I can't figure it out.  Perhaps a better note needed at author help subpage of wp:NRHP.  Discussion at Talk:Greensburg Downtown Historic District (Greensburg, Pennsylvania) and User talk:Doncram. --doncram (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Template question
Hi Niagara, a question has arisen on the possibility of making columns optional in a template for tables of US Judges at Peer review/List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States/archive1 and User talk:Brianboulton. I do not know if this is even possible, but since you have a much better knowledge of the workings of templates that I do, I wondered if you'd mind taking a look at it? Thanks in advance, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Glad you like the chinchillas - not sure if they'll let me post that ;-) Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

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Congratulations!
Today's featured article/March 5, 2010 Woo-hoo! Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea, I emailed the DCNR staffer who sent the email about the free license for the pictures. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Another PA article from the boonies on the main page! Dincher (talk) 00:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you want WP:Rollback rights? Helps with reverting vandalism (similar to popups, but one click). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:38, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, you have rollback rights now - I also use popups and like them. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:44, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Pennsylvania State Capitol images
As promised a while ago,

... or guess where I went recently? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:58, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad you like them - I did not have a tripod and they are all hand held shots, so they could be sharper in places (the Science lunette in the panorama - eek). Also went to the State Museum and City Island, got some other pictures of the capitol complex (floor tiles, dome, Hartranft statue) and the bridges. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikiproject Pennsylvania logo
Hey Niagara, I'm not trying to start an edit war or anything here but what I was talking about is that the photo you created is hard to differentiate the art work when its in front of the blue background. I understand that your using the Pennsylvania flag colors but its just hard to see. What about taking the current logo and making the art work and "wikiproject Pennsylvania" larger and a vector image; or just making the art work bigger and dropping "wikiprject Pennsylvania" plus the vector. The green that is on the current logo corresponds with the Pennsylvania portal. When I overhauled the portal I made a the logo for the wikiporject. Let me know what you think. --CPacker talk to me 07:25, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good man when you make it let me know so I can take a look--CPacker talk to me 17:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania
I finally made it out to the Museum, and just put up 12 new photos at National Register of Historic Places listings in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. It's quite a page now - covered bridges and trains. Tomorrow I'll look for leftovers in the camera and probably ask the NRHP talk page how to handle these - individual articles? all on the museum page? maybe a multiple listing page? Also will prob contact a train project to see what they might want. Missed a few. Smallbones (talk) 05:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll upload an "informational plaque" from the Museum on Wikipedia on the 460. Not sure whether it is reliable or verifiable, but the museum is run by the PHMC (same folks as the roadside plaques), but it is barely legible!

See File:460 info plaque.JPG



Smallbones (talk)


 * Hey, PRR 460 looks great - yes the article, not just the photo. And it sounds great too - how did you find the audio?  In any case, you should nominate it for DYK. Smallbones (talk) 00:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Go for it! Smallbones (talk) 05:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. In general barnstars don't mean much - it's the people who give them that count. Yours are grade AAA barnstars! Smallbones (talk) 02:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I added a second pix to the Olomana article. It's a better angle, but out of focus - if you think it subtracts from the article please remove it.  I also have a strange computer problem - a tree is about to take out my power lines and I don't want to crash a 2nd hard disk - so I may be out of touch for a couple of days.  All the best.  Smallbones (talk) 02:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Quehanna tornado
Hi Niagara, would you mind turning your expert eye to the section on the tornado at Quehanna Wild Area. I wonder if the second paragraph is not a bit too detailed? Any copyedits or tweaks are welcome. Also wondered if you knew of any free federal images of the storm in Pennsylvania, like the radar loop image at Kinzua Bridge or anything else. Thanks in adavance, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I did not write most of the tornado section (Auntieruth55 did), so I will have to check with her. Appreciate the help, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to and have time, the first four sections of History are done (1.1 Native Americans, 1.2 Lumber era, 1.3 State forests, 1.4 Atoms for Peace) and the Piper complex and boot camp section (1.5.2) is done too. The Geology and Climate section is also done. Any comments on the talk page would be great. Thanks, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your help - if you are interested, the FAC is now open at Featured article candidates/Quehanna Wild Area/archive1 Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

- Talk to you later, Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 21:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

What was your revert of an Admin page for?
Why did you revert the Bot's award of DYK citation?--Morenooso (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Meant to click to see the DYK article, but hit rollback instead (and apparently it is so fast and efficient that hitting the escape key won't even stop it). ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 17:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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