User talk:NiallBXL

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September 2007
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Deep state.
Greetings, Niall. I think your skepticism is unfounded. You know about Operation Gladio, right? Certainly, there are foreign scholars who believe in it too. What is your criterion of proof? --Adoniscik(t, c) 15:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Belvedere College
Hello. Your recent edit to Belvedere College appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 09:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Marmion (surname), without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 10:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Your e-mail
Hi NiallBXL Thank you for your e-mail, and the detailed. measured, explanation. As I state on both my User page and ny User talk page "I will probably reply on your talk page, or the article talk page, as most discussions should be open and on the record." hence my reply here.

There is general consensus that people without their own articles should not be included in lists, be that lists of names, people from towns, alumni or faculty. This is not, therefore, "an attempt at censorship" as you suggested in your e-mail, but compliance with consensus. Unfortunately, many ex-pupils try to accuse their former teachers, without any evidence, so, although you provided a reference, describing a member of staff as "teacher, paedophile" without any supporting background information is likely to cause a knee-jerk reaction. I do not agree with the suggestion that a "scandal" section be started, as such an inflammatory title is highly unlikely to be accepted.

Personally, I was surprised by the openness, and willingness to accept wrongdoing, of the "Statement of The Jesuit Order Regarding Abuse of Former Students by Joseph Marmion SJ (deceased)". My cynical side suspects that the last word, deceased, may have made this rather easier to issue, but they do seem to have accepted the facts and to be trying to help "victims and survivors" access "help and support".

The questions are, should this be included in the article? and how? Personally, although some may say such events were "common" in such schools, I certainly think it should be mentioned, including the fact that the school has accepted it, and tried to reach former pupils, to offer assistance, which will also stop it looking like a "witch-hunt". However, these events should not be given WP:UNDUE weight, such as having a main section, although a subsection may be acceptable. I would suggest it be included in the History section, as including it in "Culture of Belvedere" could be misinterpreted.

Before making such an addition, it might be best to start a section on the talk page, where the background can be explained without cluttering up the article, If you want to propose a draft for consideration this could be added there, and copied to the article if there are no objections - although we normally allow 7-10 days for such consideration, whereas I suspect you want it included sooner than that. If so, please start the talk-page discussion first, and include "see talk-page discussion" in your edit summary when adding it to the article.

Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 19:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)