User talk:NiamGov

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Hello, NiamGov, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as The Democratic Republic Of Niam, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type helpme on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Gonzonoir (talk) 11:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of The Democratic Republic Of Niam


Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as The Democratic Republic Of Niam, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Please check out WP:Verifiability, WP:Notability and Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. JohnCD (talk) 11:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Notability
Thank you for your email. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia as opposed to a web-hosting site like Myspace, and is selective about its article subjects. The test we use is called Notability, and is not a matter of opinion but needs to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The point is that we do not make value-judgements about what is important or significant; we ask, have other people, independent of the subject, found it important and interesting enough to write about?

Molossia passes that test: their article cites several independent sources, even if they are rather tongue-in-cheek; but your article cited only your own website. Even that has very little information, and another important principle here is verifiability - "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth&mdash;whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true." But even if your own website had more information, you would not pass the notability test. I made some checks:

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So, sorry, but until Niam can show evidence that people independent of it are taking it seriously, it can't have a Wikipedia article. See WP:Your first article for more advice about contributing. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)