User talk:Nichalp/Archive37

Shimla
Hi Nicholas, thanks for correcting the map. I am yet to get around to the correct procedure with maps -- Lost 08:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Lucknow
Hi Nichalp! Could you make a map similar to which you made for Kanpur also for Lucknow? Would be really helpful for the article. IrfanAli 15:42, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Locator map
Nicholas, I made a small tweak. Could you check Amritsar now? Since the dot is big, at borders, you might see some overlap. Your thoughts? Deeptrivia had a similar observation and you can see the discussion here. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 18:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

My ER
Hello Nicholas, I just wanted to thank you for your wonderful comments on my editor review. I can assure you that I will be more active in wikipedia processes after the exams ending on the 8th of July. Be sure you'll see at least 2 FACs from me in the next month. Cheers and thanks again!-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(review me!) 20:35, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Rajputs
Hi, the guy whose rant you moved to Talk:Rajput is obviously the banned Rajput Vandal. See earlier incarnation here:. I suggest you block, as has been done to the rest of the two to six fresh incarnations daily for the last weeks. Thanks! (Hey, and before I understood you were just moving that from elsewhere, here was me thinking that you were the Rajput vandal! Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde style, you know...) Scabbers the Rat 13:38, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * now that would have made the headlines :) "Nichalp unmasked as angry Rajput berserk" dab (&#5839;) 13:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah that would make headlines! :) I did suspect that this was another sock since he knew too much to have a red talk page. I see the user has already been blocked. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  14:11, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks a ton, Nichalp!! I'm sure there are many editors here that deserve it much more than I do :) Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 14:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Sikhism FA Comments
Hi,

I'm not sure what you meant by your second point. Please do clarify so we can fix it. Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think I've addressed your point now. Please take a look! Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 16:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Username change
Thanks for making the change. It's not perfect anonymity, but I do feel I can edit a bit more boldly now that it's not quite so easy for non-Wikipedia colleagues to stumble across some of my edits.

Also, I know these sorts of administrative things can probably get dull and repetitive after a while, so thanks for taking this on, not just for me, but for others. --A. B. 16:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC) PS I know you're busy -- no reply's necessary

Thanks
Thanks so much for the barnstars. Feel honoured to recieve a BONM from a senior editor like you. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 16:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi - June 25. Many thanks! Rama&#39;s Arrow 16:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Lucknow
Thanks for the tip, updated the city infobox. IrfanAli 18:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

SVG map
Would be able to add labels, rivers, and neibouring countries to the map per AreJay's suggestion here. Please comment. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 18:12, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

BCrat monobook script
If you are still using that, I'd update it. A change (for the better) in the RfA format forced my to generalize a paramater slightly, which fixed a page botching bug. Voice -of- All  03:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

1 SGM & 3 STR
They were on the Census data. I let the bot create all the towns based on the census data. Some of them (like these) are census recognized towns. Listing here. We should go back and check these. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 04:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
Hi, I was so confused between usernames that I forgot to thank you for changing mine:


 * Thanks for the barnstar, although I don't really deserve it. It's my job to see to user renames. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  06:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure you deserve it, and [[Image:Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif]] this one too...I hope to see them on your user page if you accept them :-) NOVO-REI 06:31, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * :) I've accepted it. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  06:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

You are a buffoon
Arb com asked me to not edit 5 rajput pages. Go read there trash again. They did not perm ban me for editing wikipedia. You have made it clear that whatever is inconvenient for your buddies you will delete it behind the veil of procedure. Heritage of India and who defended it can be blatanty trashed but how could you care. I am saddened to say this because I expect more patritoism from Indians.

You should have read the comments about Impumozhi and then taken a stand but perhaps that is much too ask because you have already developed a prejudice. Instead you are trying to bully me. Buddy it ain't gonna work.


 * Thank you for my new name! You are banned for a year. See: Requests for arbitration/Rajput. PS I don't deal with rude people, so lighten up and have a nice day! =Nichalp   «Talk»=  08:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * LOL, thus backfires a little scheme of the Troll. DPS and SS are confirmedly one and the same. The Troll was trying to project as though DPS (not SS) is doing the dirty work, in order to try and keep SS's name clean (high hopes), I think because SS is the troll's real-life name. How well you get to know people on Wikipedia! Cheer up Nikky, these epithets are accolades, and good ones; they are as testamentary as, and more interesting than any of the run-of-the-mill barnstars, of which you have a ridiculous excess. You should be glad for the variety! ImpuMozhi 13:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Break
Hi. Yes, I am still on a a break. My new semester (semester 5) has begun, and I am supposed to give a 20 minute seminar at the end of this week. Am busy with that and the college work. Studies at college are becoming tougher due to the appearance of many core computer science subjects this year. The next few months are going to be busy for me as I am also planning to start preparations for entrance exams like GRE/CAT/GATE etc. I hope to spend some time at wikipedia. I won't be leaving it and will start editing again by the end of this week. - Aksi_great (talk) 11:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

username issue
Hi Nicholas - I have a problem with the username of this user:. Just "Aryan" would obviously be ok, but the "8," especially "888" is a sign/salute of neo-Nazis. As the person is Indian, it is more likely that he is a Hindutva advocate. "818" might just be a modification or an attempt to elude this correlation.

I request you to please check this out. Obviously its ok if the person really doesn't reflect this and doesn't know of this correlation with neo-Nazis, but I think the explicit use of this is inappropriate as it openly advocates user identity as a Nazi/that sorta thing, instead of simply a userbox or something. The problem is real becoz the fellow's edits border on trolling. Rama&#39;s Arrow 14:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No I think his explanation is satisfactory to me. I just wanted to make sure someone like you knows about this. Rama&#39;s Arrow 19:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocking of deceased Wikipedians
If you wish, you may also block, since this is the en: account of the French Wikipedian Treanna, who died last September 18th (see WP:DW). 16:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have now done so. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

How is that a commercial listing?
Hi,

Thats an awesome presentation, I felt proud to be an Indian reading that. It gives lots of information about India that is not found in the wikipedia article (did you check it out?)

I wonder why you find it a commercial listing? If your taking about some ads then even the BBC site has them as do all the others, they were minimal anyway.

Anyway Im a newbie here and I guess you know better..


 * Thanks for replying. Imho, thats the portal, Its an article on the portal that allows comments and it does talk about the history, geography etc. of India. The site does have a sepearate forum whose topics are listed on the right, but the article I linked to is not on the forum itself. Check it out .. http://www.funonthenet.in/content/view/189/31/
 * I saw all your medals on your user page, great job there :) --Loveindia 08:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I had found this website via an external link in the 2006 anti-reservation protests - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Indian_anti-reservation_protests (The first hand experience one). I just felt that as many people as possible should see the presentation as it has information many people dont know about. Anyhow Im not going to push it any further, you have made a great amount of contribution to the India article so you know best. Have a nice day :)

Querry
Is this allowed? &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Then its OK. BTW, he is editing like a pro since his first edit; using the jargon and all. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I noticed that too. He's also voted in an RFA. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I investigated this issue through that edit itself. We don't need to panic as even if true, it is legal to have such a sock under WP:SOCK (though illegal if it means multiple votes in an RfA). &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

FAC
As I promised. Please give you valued comments on Featured article candidates/Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India.-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(esperanza elections!) 20:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey Nick (can I call you Nick?), since you're online right now, could you possible look over the FR... and Muhammad Iqbal FAC? And see, I've completed half of my promise, the next one will be near the end of the month.-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(esperanza elections!) 07:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Iqbal
Hi Nicholas - please have a look at Muhammad Iqbal's FAC. I'm not soliciting your vote, but I do need your input becoz of dear Anwar saadat's objection and the continual reverts by anons. This Fire Burns....Always  05:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, user:ARYAN818 was perma-blocked on account of username. This Fire Burns.....Always   18:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes I did address the reasonable criticism he gave, but not the charge of "poor writing." I know we must assume WP:AGF, but obviously this person has many problems, and he uses the "Diablo Test" and previous opposers as an excuse to try and sabotage FACs and RFAs. Last month there was considerable momentum to write him up for RfC but it didn't materialize. What can we do to counter his obvious bad faith contributions? This Fire Burns.....Always   07:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * But surely we have to do "something" about it - I mean here's a guy who routinely breaks WP:AGF and WP:POINT but protects himself well enough not to get slammed. His personal attacks on talkpage was so outrageous - the fella didn't do anything at all about the complaints and warnings! Also, he's been attacking other users by giving barnstars to people for "standing up" against a particular user - example:user:Zora. This Fire Burns.....Always   08:17, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

"India" and "Indian"
Hi - I've had some detailed talks with user:Spasage on the sensitive issue of national identity between India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. We've come up with some ideas on how to resolve the problem, through a disambiguation page for both "India" and "Indian." Obviously its a big move, so please weigh in here. This Fire Burns.....Always  08:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Nathula
Very nice! You beat me to adding it to ITN :( I've been dying to add it for the past 3 weeks, and I thought I would cleanup the article (in progress) before doing so. But you beat me fair and square. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  10:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I didn't really beat you or anyone. I was just posting whatever User:Petaholmes suggested at In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates. The Nathula article looked fine and was properly updated. I hope I hadn't posted the blurb on ITN too early. -- PFHLai 10:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow... Looks like you are turning Nathula into a featured article. Nicely done ! -- PFHLai 11:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: FRDPFD... FAC
I'm very busy right now (exams just got over, so I'm partying !!) but I'll look into your suggestions and give the article a complete lookover and copyedit tomorrow morning. Thanks for pointing out the details! -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(esperanza elections!) 15:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've done some work. I'll be looking into the other points as soon as electricity permits :) BTW, could you help copyedit.-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(esperanza elections!) 07:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look tomorrow =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Request
Dear Nichalp, could you give an evaluation here please? Many thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 02:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC).

Re:Nathula
Hi Nichalp, I wasn't sure which one you wanted so I created both Nathula and Nathula Pass. You can use the one you need and delete the redundant one. If there are any problems in the pronunciation or volume level, please feel free to contact me and I will be happy to do it again. BTW you have done some amazing work on the article! Keep it up! Cheers --Srikeit (Talk 03:15, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

"India-Indian'
Hi Nicholas - On the "India-Indian" issue, please weigh in again here. We're trying to make absolutely sure that there is a general agreement. This Fire Burns.....Always  06:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Mashobra
Hi Nicholas, thanks for all the help and guidance for the DYK (my first) -- Lost 07:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No probs, Hope you can get some more listed. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:20, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Username change
I have about 6500 edits, is it possible to change my user name? Will it be a hard task? I don't want to bother anybody, if it isn't easy, I'll keep this one. Just one more question, if I change username, will my previous name appear on the article history or will the new one replace it? Afonso Silva 14:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Aryan818
Hi Nichalp, hope you're doing well. Just wondering if you could look into this: User talk:ARYAN818. Aryan 818 has complained that his username has been blocked unfairly. Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 14:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Another deceased French Wikipedian...
See this - I don't understand French, but when I translated that page with Google, I believe it says that Xulin died in a hang glider takeoff accident on 2006-04-16. I would like to add him to WP:DW but I would need someone to help translate more of the info on that page and get more info on his contributions in order to do so. He has an en: account, but he only used it sparingly (mostly for interwikis) and did not create a user page on en:. 19:20, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I see User:Alabamaboy has already updated the DW page. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  07:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks ...
... for the barnstar. :-) I'll see what I can do about the templates this weekend. Take care. Saravask 20:25, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Nc images et al
Hello Nichalp! One of the images on the Kochi page was "creative commons non commercial usage only" licensed. I have tagged the image as, and the template says: ''If this image was uploaded after May 19, 2005, it will soon be deleted without further warning. Older images with this template will be considered for deletion.''. This image was uploaded on 7th May. So would it be deleted? Also, could it affect the article when it goes into FAC? Also, I've taken care of most of the inline comments you and sundar left on the page. The only one left is about the occupation of the city residents. Could you also brief me on how I can find that. Thanks! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph13:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, I read somewhere that references in the lead are not accepted. Should I remove them? -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph14:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Name change
I've changed my username. Do I need to change it by hand in every log? I've changed it only in the active discussions. Thanks! Mário 17:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Mujib FAC
Hi - I request that you please check out Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's FAC. This Fire Burns.....Always  17:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Mujib and Kazi Nazrul Islam
Hi Nicholas - I request that you re-visit the FAC of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, and participate in the peer review of Kazi Nazrul Islam. Thanks, This Fire Burns.....Always   05:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, map issue
Thanks Nichalp for the barnstar. Nice surprise for me after getting back :)

There is also an issue with the depiction of disputed areas on the map. Apparently depicting Arunachal Pradesh and areas of Chinese claim in Himachal, Uttaranchal and J&K would be Chinese pint of view and not neutral, as except China, the rest of the world recognises it to be a part of India. The only areas that need to be shown as disputed would be PoK and Aksai China. A google image search for 'Asia' highlights this point. Also see the discussion at --Plane Mad 07:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: FAC on FR/DP/FD
I'm sorry, I couldn't find the reason behind the failure of separation of judiciary from executive in JnK and Nagaland, even though that particular statement is cited/quoted from a book. Should it be removed? -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 19:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Shiv Sena
Thank you for your edit. Please monitor this article on Shiv Sena, as user Anwar Saadat has been vandalizing it with racist and ethnocentric anti-Maharashtrian nonsense and POV. I can't do it alone, since he is clearly an Islamic Fundamentalist and has the support of his entire cadre. He has a history of vandalism and has been blocked several times. Thanks for your attention.(Pusyamitra Sunga 17:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC))
 * Nichalp, This user has a username of a king, Pusyamitra Sunga, who persecuted Buddists. Is that okay per user name policy. Please advise. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 23:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Please ignore this. He was already found to be a sockpuppet. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 00:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Nichalp. Thanks for your attention here. Pusyamitra Sunga emailed me from the same address as User:Subhash bose who I blocked on Friday for personal attacks on Talk:Babri Mosque, and appears to have been used to evade the block and 3rr and more attacks. I have blocked Pusyamitra Sunga indefinitely, as previously the RFCU was "related" as they appeared to be using one account from home and the other from university. You may think of what would be appropriate for the master. Regards and thankyou for your attention in this matter, Blnguyen | rant-line 05:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry to see the kind of stuff that you have to cope with, Nick. But being abused by editors with diametrically opposite agendas in the Rajput and Shivsena article probably means that you have been fair and neutral. Tintin (talk) 06:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Really, Tintin, I know of only one "side" of the Rajput page that has spewed abuse on Nicholas. If people regard this as being the equal-and-opposite of those other comments on the India notice-board and elsewhere, then perhaps I am unsuited to WP society at some deep, basic-instinct level. Not that being abused by only one side points to Nicky being biased ;) ImpuMozhi 23:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * What I meant was that in Shivsena article he was accused for being pro-Shivsena while in the Rajput article he was accused of being anti-Rajput (or something like that), so the accusers can be said to have more or less opposite POVs. Tintin (talk) 05:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Peer review for Myanmar
Hello, I have begun a peer review for Myanmar. Please express your opinions at Peer review/Myanmar. Thank you. Hintha 21:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Please look at this, including Bachmann's comment. Do you feel moved, as an admin, to take action against wanton vandalism? Or are you unable to judge who is vandal and who is not? Never a truer proverb than "throw enough mud and some will stick." ImpuMozhi 13:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

re: 11 July 2006 Mumbai bombings
Nic, I hope you and your family and friends are alright. Take care and good luck. -- PFHLai 14:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hope u are ok.. Lost 14:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Same concern here. Hope you and your family are safe. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 15:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey there Nick, are you, and your friends and family, doing all right? Please reply soon; we're really worried. -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)  16:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Please post your welfare here. I do hope that you an your family and friends are all right. Please take care. --Bhadani 16:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hope all is well. - Aksi_great (talk) 16:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Adding my concern and wishes too. I just buzzed my old schoolbuddies there - they use the trains every day for college. This Fire Burns.....Always   17:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Ditto - I have been at a meeting for most of the day and only just learned of the tragic events. I appreciate that you may have more important things to do right now, but it would really be good to hear from you when you have a moment. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Please do respond soon. We are all very concerned. --Srikeit (Talk 18:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No edits from you yet today -- I believe a lot of people are stranded in mid-commute, slowly getting home after several hours in traffic jams. Hope its only the same from you and that all is well with you and yours. Its past midnight now, so sleep tight, I'm sure all is well with you and yours. Best regards, ImpuMozhi 19:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi everyone! Thanks for your wishes and concerns. I am safe, and everyone else I know of at this moment are safe too. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  19:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Nichalp. Just came here Tuesday morning in Australia. Very reassuring to see that you and all of your loved ones are still alive and well. All the best, Blnguyen | rant-line 00:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC).

The same here too, Nichalp. Good to know that you and your kin are safe. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Good to hear your OK Nicholas. Stay safe. -- I@n &equiv; talk 10:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank god!-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 15:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thank god! --Bhadani 15:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Good news! --PFHLai 14:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Gibnews
Hi! Could you please comment on the following RfC? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Gibnews We need some more outside opinions.... Thanks alot:-) --Burgas00 09:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Indian locator map
Congratulations...your map is featured (used) on the main page. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 22:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Hinduization of Sikhism
Hi - do check this article out. It has obvious problems, but I'm not sure if it merits an AfD. This Fire Burns Always  14:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ahmedabad
Hi Nicholas - could you please spare time this weekend to give a critical review of this article? Akash and I are hoping to prepare for an FAC by Monday. This Fire Burns Always  23:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Hope all is well -- just come back Nicky, do. Not to grudge you a little rest, but we miss you! ImpuMozhi 14:53, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Important message
Hi Nichalp,

I see that you haven't contributed over the past few days. If you happen to see this, please check your mail. An important issue has come up, and may require your intervention. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza/User Page Award
Nichalp, thanks for signing up for the Esperanza User Page Contest. The judges have received the fifteen entries, and are ready to start judging. The judges will take a week to complete the judging process, and they will contact all the participants when the judging is done.

Please drop by the contest page for contest updates and questions. Take care, and good luck! May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 10:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Castes and Tribes of the Punjab
Dear Sir, I am asking your opinion on this festering dispute that has developed between myself and Satbir Singh since the past few days.

The facts of the matter are like this:

I created a template called Castes and Tribes of the Punjab with a view to studying the caste and tribal groups that exist in what was the ancient Punjab region (Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (India), Haryana and Himachal Pradesh). My intention, unlike any Ibbetsons, Todds or Cunninghams was to study these groups from a purely anthropological perspective sans any controversy so that people visiting this portal would get to know about the huge mosaic that my province (I am a Punjabi) is.

I started with a few groups. But soon enough the groups began to increase. For the sake of brevity, I grouped them under Categories. As the template evolved, I learnt not to name any category speculatively.

The final categories were:

Brahmin groups. Dalit groups. Jat clans. Khatris and other groups. Rajput clans. Shaikhs and other groups. Tarkhans and other groups. Others (groups to which i could not attribute any specific status). In the last (Others), I also included groups such as Kamboj, Khasa, Ahir and Gujjar. However, Satbir Singh separated them and bunched them under a new category called "Surviving Ancient Kshatriya Tribes".

Since that day, a revert war has been on between the two of us. According to Satbir, these groups such as the Ahirs (the ancient Abhiras), the Gujjars (Gurjaras), the Khas (the Khasas), the Kamboj (Kambojas) and Yadav (Yadavas) are ancient Kshatriya tribes mentioned in a number of ancient Sanskrit texts.

My own personal opinion is that all this is true. However, some points must be noted:

The Varna System is a topic subject to a lot of controversy and dispute. I have been noticing this in recent weeks. Pages such as Khatri, Rajput, Kayastha and Bhumihar have been vandalised because many people don't agree with the Varna status of these groups. If the Ahirs, the Gujjars, the Khasaa, the Kambojas and the Yadavas are Kshatriya groups, then so are the Rajputs, Jats, Khatris, Tarkhans et al. I did not create a category entitled "Kshatriya groups" in the first place because I knew I was treading on soft ground. All the above mentioned castes claim Kshatriya status. But we all know, how disputable these claims are. The rigmarole that is the Varna System is known to us all. For example, the Jats, who in the Vedic and Mythological periods were workers should be placed in the Shudra Category under the Varna System. But many Jats clans consider themselves the equal and perhaps the superior of Rajputs as adhrents of Kshatriya Dharma. My own caste, the Khatris and related groups such as Aroras claim Kshatriya status. But we have seen on the Khatri page as to what became of that claim. Ahirs, Gujjars and Yadavs are considered to be OBCs in most Indian states inspite of their being the descendants of ancient Abhiras, Gurjaras and Yadus. There is a controversy raging on the Yadav page presently if I am not wrong, on the status of the caste. Taking all these points into consideration and being aware of the fact that there are users (say Sanjay Mohan and Holywarrior, who have caused great disputes on various caste pages, I proposed categories such as "Kambojs and related groups" (Kamboj, Kamboja, Kamboh and Khasa) and "Gujjars and realted groups" (Ahirs, Gujjars, Dhangars and Bakarwals). But Satbir Singh and another user named Sze cavalry01 objected to it. They returned to "Ancient Kshatriya Tribes". I did a little compromise by making it "Ancient Warrior Tribes", which I later realised would also be POV. Therefore, I changed it to just "Ancient Tribes" - A completely unspeculative term.

However, Satbir Singh does not agree. He calls it a "gross suppression of known historical facts", "a crime against history" and "a political agenda" and has termed me a "Vandal". I have put forward my points. But both of us are yet to agree.

I have fighting a revert war with him for almost a week now. Have a look at the template's history page and Satbir Singh's talk page to get a complete idea of the whole fracas.

This fight has become downright silly. I surely don't expect myself to spend my time, money and energy on such a silly matter. And I am sure neither does the other party.

Therefore, I urge you to have a look at the whole matter. Whatever is your opinion would be agreeable to me.

Regards. Rajatjghai 04:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I have, as of now, protected the page to prevent this major revert war. Please discuss changes and reach consensus on the template's talk page.-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)  04:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure where the category is. :( =Nichalp   «Talk»=  12:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * (Putting my nose in)... The categories in question are the sections of the template, they are not separate categories. Anyways, welcome back. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 12:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Picture of the day/August 11, 2006
Hi, I was making the POTD entry for your map of India and I'm having a really difficult time writing a blurb for this. Normally, I try to write a short paragraph about the subject of the image, but sometimes I have to focus on the image itself, which seems to be the correct approach for this. As you are the image creator, I would appreciate some help. Please look at Picture of the day/August 2006 and Picture of the day/July 2006 for more examples. Thanks so much.  howch e  ng   {chat} 07:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for butting in, but wouldnt it be more appropriate to have this image as POTD on August 15th, Indian independence day - Lost 07:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Moved to August 15, and I figured out a blurb for it after all.  howch e  ng   {chat} 16:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Broad guage to Bhavnagar
Hi! Great work on many frontiers! Just a small update: You have on the Commons a map of the Railway network where there is no broad guage rail to Bhavnagar. In reality, it's broad guage since a couple of years. Keep going! Mathias Luther, Finland


 * We're working on a new SVG railway map, I don't know how long it will take, but you can check out WikiProject India Maps for updates. We'll be including it in the new map. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  12:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Abhas Mitra
Hi Nichalp, your Abhas Mitra article got on the radar of WikiProject Physics and WikiProject Pseudoscience. As far as I can tell, there are three points which should be addressed: Pjacobi 08:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * For a biography, there is severe lack of biographical data: Born when and where? Eduacation? Career?
 * On scientific matters having mass media, or a web portal, as a single source is not very satisfactory. OTOH, without the sensationalizing of the media, Mitra would hardly be significant enough to get an article.
 * The physics claims in the article have to be toned down, as the vast consensus in the field judges them worthless, e.g. But, unfortunately, when it comes to gtr there is no simply polite way of describing his level of understanding, which literally does not rise to what is expected of -undergraduate students- taking a first course in gtr (c.f. the well known textbook by Schutz). -- this is not some USENET bully, but physicist User:Hillman who is one of our best General Relativity editors (who seems to have stopped editing out of frustration). --Pjacobi 08:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Question about locator dots on maps
Hi - Have you noticed the question I posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps? I'd really like to hear from some of the map "regulars" about this. And if you have any ideas for other ways I might solicit responses, please let me know. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Vote removal
I believe you have inadvertently removed my support vote to Caroline Island. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  12:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

SO SORRY! I would never do that on purpose. I went to put it back, but see you already did.Rlevse 12:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)