User talk:Nichalp/Archive44

Regarding SVG images.
Can you guide me about which software you are using to convert JPG/PNG image as SVG image?.Is there any free downloadable software is available?. --Indianstar 15:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I have downloaded Inkscape as suggested by you. I found out that SVG is suitable for vector graphics.I will use the software to convert vector graphics. I have modified Economic forecast graph in PNG format.(Format recommended for non vector graphics) Pl give your feedback.--Indianstar 08:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded SVG image. You can check here.Thanks for your help.(I used Visio since Inkscape images are smudgy.--Indianstar 10:26, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Congradulations and Happy New Year
I see you're on the Bureaucrat list these days! Keep up the good work! // Fra nkB 06:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

FYI: Your 1-week block of Users Szhaider, Nadirali, and Unre4L
Hi Nichalp, Don't mean to saddle you with POV-wars, but since you figured in this posting, I thought I'd let you know that I posted the following on Rama's Arrow's talk page:

Dear Rama's Arrow, As someone who has done battle on occasion with all three users, I nonetheless feel that your recent week-long blocks of them, especially the latter two, are a little heavy-handed and over the top. I feel that they should have been given more warning, and perhaps slapped with 24-hour, or 48-hour or even 3-day blocks first. I went back and re-read WP:NPA, especially the following, which I'm sure you well know: In extreme cases, even isolated personal attacks may lead to a block for disruption. Legal threats, death threats, and issues of similar severity, in particular, may result in a block without warning. However, administrators are cautioned that other resolutions are preferable to blocking for less severe situations when it is unclear if the "conduct severely disrupts the project".

In light of the above caution, I actually went through Unre4L's "contributions" log between the time you gave him a warning on his talk page and the time you issued a 1-week block. Although, I am sure you have your reasons for blocking him/her, I personally couldn't find anything that disruptive, and feel that the 1-week block is extreme punishment for the crime at hand. I am not asking for your reasons, but simply that two neutral administrators (like say Dbachmann, Nichalp (if he is not too busy), Saravask, Ragib, or Aksi_great) review the blocks, especially those of users Nadirali and Unre4L. Thanks! Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  11:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  14:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Thanks for replying. I don't know what is going on, but something is rotten in Denmark.  They have now banned one of the Pakistani users, Szhaider for another 2 weeks and cited as evidence of his incivility an exchange with me here. It's funny I didn't think he was particularly uncivil!  In fact, the issue was resolved satisfactorily on the Taxila talk page.  Please also, see my two posts on: Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents.  Thanks,  Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  03:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Riverfish/Hot-dog
Hi, I requested that my username be changed, and it's apparently been "done", but it seems it hasn't gone into effect, as it has with other users. Why is this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Riverfish (talk • contribs) 18:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC).

Thanks dude. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hot-dog 18:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

About vijayanagara empire image
I also left message at wikimedia. I uploaded an image http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Vijayanagara-empire.svg, but the portion is cutoff. Can you please help me to avoid that? Mlpkr 17:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Great! That wordevenked. I have that option in inkspace. mlpkr 18:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I am actually changing it to include more area after getting feedback from other user. So I did not heed to your feedback of changing it to red yet. mlpkr 18:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Request
Deven Delhi at the end of the month, we'll expect a lot of things! Meanwhile, this "Culture" section of Delhi has become sort of a bone of contention (you must have noticed). here is some links which can be used to add something on the Old Delhi culture. But it's tough job, especially considering the size the article has already achieved. Delhi needs you :) Help.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see reply to your comment in Delhi FAC. Please comment. This is a problematic issue.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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Dispute
Dear Mr.Nichalp, I plead to take action against the elitist and extremely rude Mr.Kannambadi who is bullying me and troubling for no reason. Plz check chalukya and rashtrakuta where he is removing my additions shamelessly. Can someone get the things done??? I am sick of this man. he has problem with everything. Plz ask him to stop insulting marathi language and irritating me. PLEASE.Sarvabhaum 18:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Sir, All I am asking for is an ID (ISBN/OCLC) for the book he has quoted in his citation and the year of publication (Chalukya article). This is believe is his responsibility. He has also used self translated citations from a Marathi language book when there is sufficient information on the topic in English (Rashtrakuta article).Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 18:12, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please don't call me sir or any title. Nicholas or Nichalp will do. Thanks! =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Nicholas, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chalukya_dynasty&diff=101995686&oldid=101963891

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashtrakuta&diff=101995253&oldid=101755249

If u see the history of those articles, this user is constantly deleting info which doesnt suit his POV. He has hatred towrads citations of other languages (read Marathi) and he says it is not allowed. Wikipedia says English citations should be given preference but allows other language sources as well. he uses a english book with kannada pov and ignoring the views of marathi historians.In Maharashtra's history ,Marathi books are obviously relevant. Now he is removing the whole (even English)additions by excuse that some ID no. etc is not given. The book i have is old and it doesnt have any such thing. Plz plz plz ask Mr.kannambadi to stop reverting. He is hating me because he doesnt want Marathi views and my addition to 'his' articles.
 * Btw he has the copy of my quoted book as well.My translations are verified by Mr.Utcursh.

Sarvabhaum 18:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure. All my citations per wiki format come with publication year while the ID exists in the "Reference" section. wiki should expect the same from other users. This also helps in verification purposes, especially in contested articles.

First Sarvabhaum started with citations only from Marathi books. He said the English book is not available. Then after repeat advice from Utcursch that English books get preference, he produced the English books he cites from. I need the ID number and year of publishing to accurately verify his info. The citation numbers are Chalukya dynasty-->#1, 13 and 65 Rashtrakuta-->#9 and 10. Origin of Rashtrakutas-->#4,5,6 Further he adds Marathi to the lead though there is no proof of Marathi as a language of administration at that time. The reason Kannada and Sanskrit are transilerated in the LEAD is purely because they were languages of administration, proof for which comes in many citations in the article. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 18:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I can read Marathi. Is it possible to scan the front cover of the book and the page with the relavent details? This is needed for verifiability. Thanks! =Nichalp  «Talk»=  18:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I get the books from library and it doesnt allow me to make scan or photocopies of them. I have access to my college library and Jaykar library of (pune university) through my friends. Mr.V.K.Rajwade is a reknown historian and so is Mr C.V.Vaidya. I had to dig up the whole library to get the English version of C.V.Vaidya's book which Mr.Kannambadi himself owns. That book added with Britannica encyclopedia gives enough proof that maharashtri prakrit was used during Rashtrakuta period. C.V's book has a seperate section dedicted to medieval age languages which clearly states that now Kannada speaking areas spoke Maharashtri in ancient times.Mr.kannambadi is kannada fanatic who thinks all the great empires are kannada. Few Marathi, telugu and tamil editors have had problem with his kannada pov.


 * 1) 1 is a English book which Mr.Kannambadi himself owns. #13 is NOT added by me and #65 is a English book.
 * About origins of rashtrakutas,#4 book he himself owns, #5 is what he said i have it but denying now, #6 i will withdraw it since i have english book of the same author. Sarvabhaum 18:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I dont own the English book by C.V. Vaidya. I said I have located it thats all.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 18:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * But u claimed it here. He is just wanting to harass me. Mr.C.V.vaidya is a noted historian. Any history expert will know his name. I request Nicholas to ask Mr.Kannambadi to stop reverting cited info. I have also provided the translations and main stuff on talk pages.Sarvabhaum 18:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * In the link, I said I will pick up the book. I did not say it is in a library next door. America is a large counry you know. C.V. Vaidya is not very famous here, may be in India he is. I am not harassing you, only asking for what is expected of me. If this article goes for RFC, you will be required to provide all this info anyway. If you really have the English/Marathi books you claim, there has to be a way to scan it and send it to Nicholas.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 19:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It is Sarvabhaum's responsibility to provide what is expected from his citations. Even if I buy the book by C.V. Vaidya tommorow (if available at all), its not my responsibility to completely read the book and justify Sarvabhaums's citation and satisfy myself. It is his citation, so he should provide the scanned pages.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 19:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Since Sarvabhaum says he has friends with whose help he has access to the library, he can have one of his friends check out the book, then he can photocopy it and fax it over or scan it over to Nichalp.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 22:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Sarvabhaum, you may quote the book, and I'll assume good faith that what you are saying is credible, but to maintain wikipedia's standards on verifiability (ie others can follow up on the sources), you would need to supply the ISBN number, and if that is not possible, you would need to scan the relavent data so that at least one person in this list can verify what you claim. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  11:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Mr.Nichalp, can u please give me ur email address? I am sarvabhaum and writing without signing in as i am blocked because i edited a article 4 times. Me email id is vishuba2007@rediffmail.com I will do the needful. Plz do it ASAP. I hope u will save my data until i give the proofs and save me from harassing bigot, mr.kannambadi. 59.95.20.177 14:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Special:Emailuser/Nichalp should do the trick. Please keep in mind that I will be out of town from Wednesday. It would also be mature of you not to call anyone names no matter how much the provocation. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  14:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Nicholas, citations that are incomplete should be considered invalid untill proven valid. How can Sarvabhaum's content remain on the article when its unproven with no book ID. Please dont accept this idea of Sarvabhaum. thanks.Dineshkannambadi 15:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Nicholas, plz see ur email. I will be sending u the 'necessary' documents the very next minute u reply. Mr.kannambadi is a great man! he has two books yet he's creating the scene. Dont worry Mr.Kannambadi I found many of ur books to be incomplete and hence invalid,which i will remove it soon. Nicholas, i hope u will apply the same formula with Mr.kannambadi's citations. Thanks. Plz reply soon,i will be waiting. 59.95.23.42 15:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * If any of my citations are considered suspicious, the books ID number is clearly provided. The contents can be verified.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 16:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * i have sent u the files.plz check ur email and revert the removals of Mr.kannambadi and his pals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.95.15.135 (talk) 14:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

Nichalp, after looking at the pages faxed by Sarvabhaum, please find time to reword if you deem necessary the opening paragraph of "History" section. Please dont revert because there are lots of statements there in the paragraph put in by Sarvabhaum that need to be proven. Also, there are couple of other citations in the article by Sarvabhaum that need to be proven. For instance his blatant useage of the word "Marathi", "Maharashtri Prakrit", the cited Marathi poem all have to be proven. This is true for both Chalukya dynasty and Rashtrakuta articles. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 15:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Nicholas, I have added some pertinent information today to the Chalukya dynasty article which is fully cited. We need to make sure this info is not lost during any further edits that are made after you study Sarvabhaum's email files.plz. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 01:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

SVG Images
New version of Image for India article can be found here--Indianstar 04:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I updated my comments in Image Talk Page here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Indianstar (talk • contribs) 02:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Thanks for spending so much time for improving my image. I uploaded new image by converting entire area in white background.Additional improvements if any is also appreciated. I also seek your suggestions for improving Indian Political Parties image. --Indianstar 06:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion
User:Iconoblast is nominating Forward castes article for Article for deletion.There are articles for Other Backward classes and Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes etc. It seems he is not able to accept facts mentioned in the article and all facts mentioned in the article are based on Government surveys. I wish to remove AFD since it violates article for deletion norms. I seek your suggestions since you are the experienced wikipedian. --Indianstar 08:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser
Would you mind applying for checkuser? WE NEED MORE SLAVES. &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick  11:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not right now. Perhaps after I return from Delhi. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  11:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If you apply right now, they might admit you in the slave-camp by the time you're back from Delhi. &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick  11:20, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I complete 3 years on the 31st. Would like that to happen first. :) Then of course, I would like to be active when the debate is ongoing. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  11:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * They take only $1000 payments. Keep your paypal ready. &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick  11:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * are u talking about me?Mr.headless nick himself has blocked me. Pardon my if i am being paranoid. 59.95.20.177 14:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it was specifically directed to you, but I have been asked this a couple of times including by one arbitrator. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  14:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * U call others slave if they edit articles more than 4 times!!Is that a horrible sin here? me to arbitrator?? What i have done? I hope u dont fine $1000 if one breaks the rule here. If it is,Mr.kannambadi will be bankrupt!!59.95.23.42 16:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Cricket World Cup
Hello, could you please take a look at Cricket World Cup and Indian cricket team, WikiProject Cricket wants FAs on the Main Page for the World Cup and these are probably in the best positions to be FAs.  Noble eagle  [TALK] [C] 04:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggest to look Talk:India pages
I suggest you to look Talk:India pages immediately and take necessary actions.--Indianstar 14:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Sarvabuam's citation and what I read on the same page
Sarvabhaums citation is from page 171, C.V. Vaidya (BA LLB), History of Mediaeval Hindu India (Being a history of India from 600 to 1200 AD) Vol 2.

I have put a tag below for those sentences which do not appear on that page even remotely. For those sentences that do appear, I have put a number (1, 2, etc) and typed out at the bottom what I read on that page 171, exactly as I see it. I have also included my arguements.

Citation on Chalukya dynasty page

Marathi Kshatriyas
Noted historian C.V.Vaidya states that Chalukya are pure Maratha kshatriyas.1 Dr.Bhandarkar also agrees to this theory. Chalukyas were the residents of Maharashtra and their most marriages happened in Maharashtra with Maratha empires like Pallavs, Kadambas, Sendriks and Rashtrakutas. According to Vaidya, Chalukyas are the Aryans which came from North here and (later named as Marathas) in ancient times. This theory of C.V.Vaidya is confirmed by the various inscriptions and written proofs which include Satavahanas inscription in Nashik dated 100 A.D, Shabar Bhashya dated 400 A.D) and Chinese traveler Hyun-Tsang (640 A.D) who specifically describes Chalukya king Pulakeshi as King of Maharashtra and Kshatriya2. But the most important proof is of Kumarilbhatta(700 A.D). It was later after hundred and fifty years that Badami was part of Karnataka.3 Maharashtri Prakit was spoken here centuries before the Kanarese (Kannada) language emerged.4

1 The Eastern Chalukyas were by race and origin Marathas.

I dont see how this makes all Chalukyas Marathas. There are three dynasties and the main articleChalukya dynasty refers mostly to Badami Chalukyas and there are seperate articles for Eastern Chalukyas attached as a sub article. Nor does the book explain why the author thinks the Eastern Chalukyas who ruled in Andhra were Marathas and from when they became Marathas. Sarvabhaum tried to POV and convert the Badami Chalukyas into Marathas. What is the inscriptional proof etc. Just because Kubja Vishnuvardhana (brother of Pulakesi II of Badami) was the founder of the Eastern Chalukya empire, It does not make either Kubja Vishnuvardhana or Pulakesi II a Maratha. In short, insufficient info. Maybe some descendent of Vishnuvardhana married a Maratha woman and produced Maratha children.

2Hiuen Tsang in about 640 AD described Pulakesin of Badami as ruler of Maharashtra; in fact his Maharashtra extended from Nerbuddha down to Tungabhadra.

This is exactly what my citation says, "Hiuen-Tsiang, a Chinese traveller had visited the court of Pulakesi II. At the time of this visit, as mentioned in the Aihole record, Pulakesi II had divided his empire into three Maharashtrakas or great provinces comprising of 99,000 villages each. This empire possibly covered present day Karnataka, Maharashtra and coastal Konkan".

Sarvabhaum tried to POV here and excluded what the "Maharashtra" meant and tried to make it look like todays "Maharashtra".

3A hundred and fifty years later, Badami was Karnataka, by language not by race''' This sentence itself is totally ambiguous. The word Karnata has been in existance from the days of the Puranas, please see the cited info on Karnataka page, section "References from Hindu texts". I honestly dont know what Sarvabhaum is trying to achieve in his citation by adding the above sentence.

4It seems that the Kanarese was formed about this time and spread in the southern Maratha country. How this country which is Maratha by race and which is properly called southern Maratha country even now became Karnatik by language is a problem which has not been solved. That the people of this part spoke Maharashtri in centuries previous has already been shown in Vol 1, page 317. Inscriptions of ancient times up to 4th century AD undoubtedly prove that Maharashtri in a cultivated form was spoken in the now home of Kanarese.

This is from page 170 actually. Sarvabhaum hid the first part (which is already proven by Kannada classic Kavirajamarga of 850 AD) and went around using the second part indicating "Maharashtri has spread in Kannada country". All the above statement proves is a consolidation of languages. Kannada in the Karnataka region and Maharashtri in the Maharashtra region. Also the author is absolutely wrong in saying Kannada language formed during the time of Chalukyas. He means earliest Kannada literature was was written at that time. Info on 7th century extinct Kannada literature is available on the Kannada page. I have cut an pasted that cited info for your convinience from the section "Literature and poetry".

"works by Syamakundacharya of 650 CE who wrote Prabhrita and Tumubuluracharya of 650 CE who wrote Chudamani (96,000 verse-measures) a commentary on logic Tatwartha-mahashastra.[20] Karnateshwara Kathe depicting king Pulakesi II as its hero is also said to have belonged to the seventh century, Gajastaka a work on elephant management by king Shivamara II of Western Ganga Dynasty belonged to the eighth century.[21]"

conclusions

The citation is full of conjecture, assumptions and POV. Most of the info in the citation does not appear on page 171. Sarvabhaum needs to give a page number for each sentence to prove his points.

Sorry to take up so much space on your use page. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 02:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

thanks
For your efforts in trying to settle the dispute. I shall do exactly what you have adviced me to do.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 19:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

singling out
The reason I singled you out is because you're the one who did it. You actually mentioned it a while back on Talk:India, and your requests to users to translate stubs about India are easy to see. The percentage of Yi speakers or Zhuang speakers, for example, who know any English at all is very tiny, so it is not useful to spam those Wikipedias (to your credit, on the Zhuang Wikipedia you [or somebody] actually wrote a stub in Zhuang). Notice that the user interfaces there are even written in Chinese. The utility of pages in English at, say, the Tajik WP is debatable, but the key is this: in fact, it is the tajik Wikipedia, which means it aims to be a free encyclopedia in tajik, not English, and it is for this reason that content written in languages other than the language of that Wiki is deleted immediately in some Wikis, or scheduled for deletion pending translation in others. --24.251.68.181 23:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)