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TheWikiWizard - October 2019
Hello, Nick Moyes! Here is the September 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard. We hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! -- Thegooduser  Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 01:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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 * Once again, thank you for your efforts on The WikiWizard. Alsays great to see it! Nick Moyes (talk) 06:33, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank You! Thegooduser   Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 23:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Not quite a wikibreak, but...
On your user page, you state "...up to summer 2019 I shall have less time for Wikipedia work". Summer's already over. Would you mind changing that? Interstellarity (talk) 16:45, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No. I'll change it when I choose to, not on request. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:02, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Dream Cave
Hello! Your submission of Dream Cave at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:21, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
 * Tools
 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
 * Reviewer Feedback
 * Second set of eyes
 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

Administrators' newsletter – November 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg GermanJoe • Girth Summit • Kees08 • Nosebagbear
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg DESiegel • GB fan • MSGJ • Voice of Clam • WilyD
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad • Fang Aili • Pakaran

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad • Pakaran

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg MSGJ

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg L235 • Mz7 • SQL • ST47
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ivanvector
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg L235 • Mz7 • ST47 • Stwalkerster • The Blade of the Northern Lights • Xaosflux
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad • DGG • Julia W

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.
 * The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).
 * A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.

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Tech News: 2019-45
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * At Special:Contributions you could see up to 5000 edits at the same time if you edited the URL. This has been lowered to 500. This is to stop requests which break the sites.

Changes later this week
 * can set the default length to block a user for your wiki. You will be able to use  to set a different default block length for IP editors.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 November. It will be on all wikis from 7 November (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.  16:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

adoption request.
im looking to be adopted. another user is pinging you atm about this. sorry to bother you. DarknessHorses1989 (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I will try and answer you on your own talk page. Give me a bit of time, though, please. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:26, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi, Thank you for your work over at Murray Edwards College, Cambridge, and for the thanks. If the sources don't work out, feel free to remove. Otherwise, I think it's fixed now. :) Zanygenius(talk to me!)(email me!) 00:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * No, that's fine. Thank you for reverting my edit and for then for adding sources. That's how Wikipedia rolls! Best, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:29, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

A survey to improve the community consultation outreach process
Hello!

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to improve the community consultation outreach process for Foundation policies, and we are interested in why you didn't participate in a recent consultation that followed a community discussion you’ve been part of.

Please fill out this short survey to help us improve our community consultation process for the future. It should only take about three minutes.

The privacy policy for this survey is here. This survey is a one-off request from us related to this unique topic.

Thank you for your participation, Kbrown (WMF) 10:45, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Workshop for the creation of new Portal Guidelines
Hello Nick Moyes. There is currently a workshop going on about the creation of a new Portal Guideline: User talk:Scottywong/Portal guideline workspace. Your insights and ideas would be appreciated. --Hecato (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-47
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit some wikis for up to 30 minutes on 26 November at 06:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. It will probably last much shorter than 30 minutes. This will also affect the  database. This could for example affect changing passwords, logging in to new wikis, changing emails or global renames.

Changes later this week
 * You can soon vote on proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Hot articles
Hallo Nick, I noticed you added a "Hot articles" list to WikiProject British and Irish hills. How does that work - can any WikiProject have one, and if so, how? I tried experimentally adding it to a couple of WikiProjects and it didn't work, at least in "Preview" - might it have done if I'd saved the edit for real? I can't find any documentation about it, all a bit mysterious. Can you shed any light, please? Thanks. Pam D  16:35, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, I now realise it's run by hotarticlesbot and updated daily so wouldn't produce an instant effect. But I still can't find anything written about it - any pointers, please? Pam  D  16:39, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Funnily enough, I've only just this a moment ago posted a request for help on the Hot Articles feed for WP:WikiProject Mountains and WP:WikiProject Mountains of the Alps as these two projects share the same template, and I can't figure that out myself, even though for projects with their own template, it's not too hard. But the instructions are far from clear, I must agree with you. Here is my understanding of the process. Example 12 is up-and-running; whilst Example two is not yet working, and I'm awaiting a reply to my help request. Let me know how you get on:

Instructions for creating a new 'Hot articles' feed on a WikiProject page:
 * Go to your WikiProjects's main page (e.g. WP:WikiProject Derbyshire) and create a blank sub-page to receive your project's hot article feed. (a bot will populate it daily, once activated, at around 07:50 UTC) As it's unusual to crteate and save a blank page, you'll be prompted whether you really want to do this. You do!
 * Example 1: WP:WikiProject Derbyshire/Hot articles
 * Example 2: WP:WikiProject Mountains/Hot articles


 * Go to User:HotArticlesBot and follow the link in the 'Subscription' section to then go to User:HotArticlesBot/Config.json
 * That page shows you all actively subscribed WikiProjects with Hot Article feeds (latest at the bottom), but you cannot edit it yourself as it is a fully protected page. But note the six entries for each Project feed. You will need to modify these for your own Project. These entries are explained in the row labelled 'description' at the top of the table.
 * Now go to the Talk page at User_talk:HotArticlesBot/Config.json, click New Topic, and place an 'edit request', using the edit request template (edit fully-protected. The template should be completed so that it looks as follows:
 * Below the edit request, please your precise text you want adding to the page at User:HotArticlesBot/Config.json. You can use a previous edit request to help you. The text you add might look like this:

"WikiProject Derbyshire": { "Category": "WikiProject Derbyshire articles", "Page": "Wikipedia:WikiProject Derbyshire/Hot articles", "Articles": 10, "Days": 7, "Orange": 5, "Red": 10 },

These settings will give you a table showing 10 articles, the number of days to survey (max 7) for edits made to those articles in that WikiProject's category over the last seven days, and the cut-off point between orange and red background text for the number of edits to include. A popular topic would probably choose a much higher number than a fairly obscure one. You will probably also need to create a new WP:Category for your articles to be put into Category:WikiProject xxxxxxxxx articles where xxxxxxxxx is the name of the relevant Project.
 * Example 1: Category:WikiProject Derbyshire articles -had to be newly created
 * Example 2: Category:WikiProject Mountains articles -note that this category previously existed for this Project, yet as at the time of this post, is empty.

It may take a few days for your edit request to be implemented, then a further 24 hours for the bot to populate the 'hot article' page you created.
 * To insert that feed on the relevant Wikiproject page, just add the template in an appropriate section, either using its full WP: address or, if it is a sub-page directly under the Project page, use to insert it. Example 1:

Let me know if these instructions make sense as you follow them through. Note that I can't advise on setting up a Hot article feed where one WikiProject is a dependant of another with a shared template - that's beyond me at the present time. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:08, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
User:Clovermoss submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * I nominate Nick Moyes to be Editor of the Week for his 10 year effort in helping newcomers adjust to Wikipedia. He is incredibly welcoming to new editors, going above and beyond normal to help, and is always willing to share his knowledge and experience. He is the top editor for the WP:Teahouse, making over 1,800 edits to the project page. He's also made improvements to the project itself and has contributed to many nuanced discussions in order to do so. Nick Moyes is also an adopter in the Adopt-A-User program, and I'm one of his three adoptees. Nick Moyes is a talented editor with expertise and interests in several areas. Falconry, Flora and Mountain climbing are just a few. Nick has also organised Glam events in RL, and generally promoted and supported Wikipedia in the real world. I have to be concise, even here, as Nick has made so many valuable contributions that it's almost impossible to summarize the quality of everything he's done.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

Thanks again for your efforts! &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   14:54, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you both very much. I'm honoured. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:41, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Congratulations on becoming Editor of the Week. I have been keeping an eye on your contributions and each and every one of them show you are truly making Wikipedia a better place for our editors and our readers. Thank you for all that you do here! Keep it up! :-) Interstellarity (talk) 23:25, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, that's kind of you to say. Likewise I see you're getting around a fair bit, too. Keep it up! Best, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:31, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Special Notice for TheWikiWizard
Dear Reader, You may have noticed that you did not receive a mailing for the November 2019 Issue, this is due to thegooduser being very busy with schoolwork and other important life issues. We do apologize that you have not received the November issue, and we will continue to work very hard to deliver to you the December Special Issue for 2019. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. If you like hearing about Wikipedia News and events, don't forget that The Signpost (our rival paper) does cover such events, in case we do not publish an issue on time. Thank you for subscribing and we will work very hard to deliever the December Issue. Best, -- Thegooduser  Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 02:39, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Coropuna/archive1
Pinging you to this discussion as you previously commented on the topic at FAC and the FAC has not received that much input in terms of "support","oppose" or "no opinion". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2019 (UT
 * I'm happy to support it. I'd quite like to work through and do some minor copyediting first, but may not have time to do it immediately. So as my one and only FA application didn't go through because it ran out of time, and someone closed it through what they perceived as inactivity (which was quite demotivating) I'll suppport it now, then try to work through it in odd moments. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Kindest person of the year on internet

 * Hi ! That's a very nice thing for you to say, so thank you. And that's a really brilliant achievement, and must have been quite a challenge for you to overcome at first. Well done, indeed. I'm sure making that step must reassure you that you can make the next one too, and the next and the next... ... All the best, and get in touch anytime you want further help or support. As we're now just into December, you're the first person I've felt able to wish a Merry Christmas/Happy New Year to! Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:35, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg EvergreenFir • ToBeFree
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Akhilleus • Athaenara • John Vandenberg • Melchoir • MichaelQSchmidt • NeilN • Youngamerican • 😂

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Beeblebrox
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Deskana

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Evad37

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
 * Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.

Technical news
 * Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 2 December 2018 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous
 * The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF will no longer use partial or temporary Office Action bans... until and unless community consensus that they are of value or Board directive.

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Some help?
Some time ago when I first began editing on Wikipedia I noticed on your page you were accepting adoptees (this was a while back around the first of this year). I'm unable to figure out how to get back to that page... I've been editing for a while now but still have trouble getting my head around some of the rules. Specifically, I've been reading the rules related to 'No original research' and the related links to reliable sources and primary, secondary and tertiary source but sometimes the 'how to' apply these rules is where I run into trouble. When challenged I clearly don't really understand the difference as these rules apply to living persons biographies. If you don't mind mentioning the link if you remember I'd be most appreciative. :- ) LorriBrown (talk) 17:26, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I think I've already found it...LorriBrown (talk) 17:44, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, . I'm glad you've found it, as I wasn't confident I knew exactly which pages you were referring to. There are usually a handful of logically-named shortcuts to most policy or guidance pages, so it's often productive to type into the search box WP: followed by the best keywords or abbreviations you can think of relevant to that topic, and then checking the 'See also' section at the bottom of each help page for related topics. So WP:PRIMARY, WP:ORIGINAL, WP:SECONDARY, WP:NOR should all lead you to the same or similar pages. One tip is to look for the little 'shortcut' box in the top right side of the page, and try and remember its logical naming for the future. Another way is to copy paste any page name you encounter into a section of your userpage, or a subpage. You can even install a script to compile page names of interest into a sub-page. (Let me know if you'd like further details on how to do that).
 * I'm happy to help further if you need guidance. To be frank, I've felt a little guilty since you first approached me, seeking support. At the time I didn't see enough broad commitment to the wider aims of the Project to offer you my help, though I've since seen you giving just that commitment, and I felt I should have given you more time. I am sorry for that. I've had very little free time myself over the last 18 months to really offer adoption to anyone else, though things should start to be easing off soon. If you want further help or guidance on interpretation/application of policies and guidelines, just shout. All the best, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:39, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey that was nice of you to say that!  I get that and  I can't really remember but I think I may have removed my name from the list. I put my name out there again and I'll wait to see if someone has the time.  I can see that it could be challenging.  There is so much to learn. LorriBrown (talk) 02:47, 2 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I removed my question which when I read it again it seems sort of long winded I think I'll try in the Teahouse.  Thanks,  LorriBrown (talk) 15:51, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Why
I see you edited out a flint water crisis sentence for "no citation" but your account says your a level 3 vandal and that would mean your telling people not to edit in no citation stuff but you do it. hypocrite — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrEmployee (talk • contribs) 00:52, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Ha ha! You got me going there. Nice one, . I assume you didn't really mean that comment seriously, did you? If you did, I'm afraid you've rather misunderstood what the little box at the top of my page userpage is doing. But not to worry. It's not there to report to the world that I am a "level 3 vandal" (I hope I never stoop so low). Instead, what it's doing is alerting me automatically to the overall level of vandalism across Wikipedia. When I see it's at level 2 or level 1, I drop what I'm doing and pop over and monitor live updates at Special:RecentChanges in order to protect the encyclopaedia from kids, vandals, malcontents and POV pushers, as well as correcting new editors who innocently make editing errors. I and others try to steer them all in the right direction, or get them blocked if they persist in causing trouble. The editor (you?) who added uncited content only got the lowest, gentlest notification from me (see here). You know, I'd never looked at my userpage in that way before - thanks for drawing it to my attention, and for registering for an account name to edit under. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:08, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nick; A Month Ago You Said...
"When I next get a chance to sit down at a proper pc and keyboard (rather than this miniscule phone) I'm going to paste our discussion..." and I'm wondering when you might get a chance, because I have a new article - my first - in my sandbox almost ready to go, but it too uses a text-over-image photo (an updated one of that which we were discussing) and I'm hoping to first get feedback that I think was going to result from your paste of "our discussion". I'm not in a great hurry and I think you're busy with renovations, but thought a quick reminder might help. All the best. Cheers, BrettA343 (talk) 17:03, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oops, yes, I'd completely forgotten. So much so, I'm going to have to reread our original discussion. Sorry about that. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:06, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'm not in a hurry, but I'll direct you to Mt. Lyell and Walter Peak for the updated image and its use - it's now shorter vertically to better distinguish it from the Mt. Lyell infobox photo, includes the 'L' in the Lyell number L1 - L5 and the text includes 'icefield' as per your suggestion, IIRC. TIA.  BrettA343 (talk) 20:58, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Right, so I've pasted in the discussion, as promised. I'm going to have to sit down and catch up on anything unsaid that I wanted to add there. (Just chase me if I forget!!). Nick Moyes (talk) 21:19, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanking you
Thanks for you help and encouragement. I will try to improve my editing skills.☺   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siwan2002 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome. Always happy to help if you get stuck. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:21, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy holidays


Interstellarity (talk) is wishing you Happy Holidays! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user Happy Holidays, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Happy holidays}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Next January will mark my first anniversary actively editing Wikipedia. I have learnt a lot during my journey as a Wikipedia editor and a teenager/young adult. I fight vandalism, help others at the Teahouse, almost graduating from NPPSCHOOL, and might become an AFC reviewer in the near future. I would be interested to know, what have you learnt this year editing Wikipedia? I edit Wikipedia because I care about the well-being of Wikipedia. I enjoy editing Wikipedia!! I fight vandals because I do not want Wikipedia to become the hub for vandals. I help others at the Teahouse because I want newbies to feel welcomed on Wikipedia. I also care about the issues that are facing the world such as climate change, war, and poverty. I know there is no such thing as a perfect world, but I want to help as much as I can. Besides donating money, what could I do to help our world become a better place? Have a think about this before responding. Best wishes, Interstellarity (talk) 23:39, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello . Thank you for your best wishes. Next January marks my tenth year of editing here and, like you, I have also learned a lot along the way. But the more I know, the more I realise I don't know. C'est la vie!
 * To make the world a better place, you have to ask yourself what your are rich in, and how much you want to commit. You may be rich in money, but you can be equally rich in knowledge, skills, time, commitment or passion. You don't have to be a Greta Thunberg and irritate stupid presidents to make a difference. You could campaign locally; sign and promote petitions, become an activist for a particular cause; do environmental volunteering work with your local 'Wildlife Trust' or equivalent, improve environmental articles on Wikipedia; encourage family and friends to plant wildlife-friendly flowers in their gardens; take steps to reduce your energy/material consumption; recycle more; use less. The list is endless, and no-one can do everything. Just find a way to do your bit. Then do a bit more.
 * Here's my Christmas 'best wishes' to you. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm sure I can find something I can do. I hope life is treating you very well and look forward to editing in the next decade. Interstellarity (talk) 00:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Dream Cave
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:11, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course

God Jul och Gott Nytt År!
 ''User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång is wishing you the season's greetings. Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus, or the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

Please enjoy these messages from our readers! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:44, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

HI FROM CRETE!

Thanks a lot for your help! for my article ! Merry Christmas! What I wrote is correct the problem is that there aren t so much english references about the village1!! Greetings!Ioannis1981dr (talk) 12:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Well, I did cut down the number of images. Then, shortly afterwards, they began to expand again! At least there's a bit of variation now. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Nick Moyes: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers,  Everedux  (talk)  19:28, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Re: AvellanoAve.
I did some digging around on this user. It turns out that they're a LTA user with long records across various Wiki projects, including the Spanish and English Wikipedias. On the former project, they went by "Avellano3" until they were blocked late last month; a few hours later they picked up where they left off using the name "AvellanoAve." MO is the same across all projects: disruptive editing, spurious POV assertions, poor grammar/orthography (including at the Spanish Wiki), edit warring when reverted, etc. Pinging as a courtesy since user in question had contacted them. --CurryTime7-24 (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Interesting stuff ou've dug out there. If they return to editing I'd suggest you make a report at WP:SPI. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-25
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  group name is now  . This could affect abuse filters.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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15:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Karenberrios
Hello, just a quick question about the ban you made on the account User:Karenberrios. She was banned under the guise of promotional username, but that appears to possible be a woman named Karen Berrios (again, possibly). Per WP:ORGNAME, I'm not sure how her username violated the any guidelines. She also made no edits that included any promotional content. Not being inquisitive, not asking for a rationalization, but it looks like she was honestly trying to improve WP. Maybe I'm wrong, dunno. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 00:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Granted... on their website, named after herself, is actively selling merchandise.. maybe I'm just digging myself in a hole. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 00:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi . It's absolutely ok to query the rationale for an admin action to block another user. In this instance it wasn't the visible edits that were the issue, but the edits caught by our abuse filters see here. If you click 'details' for each one, you'll appreciate the self-promoting edits they were attempting. I hope this explanation helps justify my actions. Thanks for asking. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:00, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks for the explanation! Don't know a lot that goes into the ban process and honestly had no idea that this tool exists haha. Thank you for being positive and straightforward with me :) --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 12:42, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * no problem at all. Being interested in how and why things work (and being willing to question and/or challenge decisions) is all part of the community approach and perhaps an early sign that one day you might yourself want to look more 'under the hood' and help out with some of the administrative work that keeps this place running as smoothly as possible. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Sheilah ReStack
Please note that this is an autobiography. I thought we didn't allow people to write articles about themselves? Also, when trying to place the template on the Draft talk page according to the documentation, it kicks back an error message: "Peer review is disabled for draft articles. These articles should be improved directly, and discussion should occur on the talk page or with reviewers at articles for creation." ♟♙ (talk) 16:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I've no idea from looking at your signature who you are. Any chance of fixing it? But see Autobiography to appreciate that it is 'strongly discouraged' but not disallowed. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:SIGNATURE says "A customised signature should make it easy to identify your username", but it doesn't say it's required. In any case, clicking on my signature takes you to my talk page, allowing you to see my account name if you need it. Again, I just want to point out that you (I'm sure unintentionally) steered this editor in the wrong direction regarding peer review, and their attempts to obtain a peer review have gone awry (as seen from their edit history). I attempted to do it for them correctly to be helpful, and received the error message I noted above. So now I'm wondering how are they to receive feedback on their autobiography? Fixing their peer review error is, unfortunately, beyond my skill level. ♟♙ (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * If you would kindly take the time to check their (and my) contributions, you will see that I had nothing whatsoever to do with any edit of theirs pertaining to peer review. That happened before you CSD-ed the article, and before I got involved. The easy way to help an editor is to drop by their talk page and given them a few pointers. I removed your CSD G11 tag because it was placed in error, in my view. Feel free to read WP:G11 to appreciate that 'unambiguous' is the key issue with CSD. I don't believe it was 'unambiguous', so your proper route should have been WP:AFD. I draftified the page to give them time to work on meeting WP:NBIO or WP:NARTIST, simple as that.
 * I don't care if you choose to push our policies/guidelines on a silly username. Sometimes one can simply be too clever for one's own good. It'd be great if you addressed it, especially if you plan to engage with new editors. I'm not telling you to do so - just advising it. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:41, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * PS: I've now contacted the user directly. (see here). Nick Moyes (talk) 23:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi !!! So im trying to decipher all the advice reciphed, I am a student making a wikipedia page for one of my old professors and i thought it would be easier to use her username. Is that why her page got deleted? there are other wikipedia pages for other artists up and I was hoping to just do something like that. Is it still autobiogrpahical if I'm writing it for someone else? User:Sheilahrestack] sheilahrestack (talk) 07:23, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The page did not get deleted, it's at Draft:Sheilah ReStack. I simply moved it and deleted all the promotional gobbledgook from it. As you've admitted not not being that person, I urge you to abandon your account, forget the password and never use it again, and simply create a completely new account that does not mislead people. You can continue working on the draf t with that new account, but it would be a biography, not an autobiography, of course. You should still declare your Conflict of Interest on your userpage, and recognise that this is an encyclopaedia, not a place to write mildly sycophantic art-twaddle about people. Just stick to what reliable, independent sources have said, though do so in your own words, and definitely using Plain English to help establish Notability. . Sometimes less is more, too. Hope this helps, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:36, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

I think there’s an edit war
Hi Nick, I'm very glad to see you're an administrator. I need the help of one. I stumbled across a situation on an article, You Signed Up For This, where a user appears to be engaging in an edit war. They are repeatedly moving a page. I tried filing a report at the noticeboard, but I found the instructions to be very complicated-- too complicated to follow. What do you think should be done? Helen (let’s talk) 22:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I was just off to bed when I stopped to check your notification (I really wish I hadn't!). There seem to have been a couple of admins already involved with this one, but we cannot accept either disruptive edit-warring across two separate pages or having two articles with extraordinarily similar content. The first article date takes priority in my view (irrespective of how it is titled), and the subsequent one should be a redirect created to it. Unless I've grossly messed it up, the closed consensus is already for retention of the spelling with a lower case 'for'. Having reverted one of them to its redirect form and given a short block and explanatory note to Novaredant, I saw that two IPs were continuing the edit warring, so I felt it appropriate to not only block them for a week, but to extend the original 24 hour block to a week for block evasion. I also felt it necessary to make my first 'admin-only' protect of the redirect to stop this silliness.
 * I think you made the right decision to raise it with an admin, rather than to get sucked into an edit war yourself - t though you very nearly missed me, so WP:ANI might have been a good place to get this one dealt with - was that the page you struggled with? Anyway, two hours later and I'm now off to bed as I'm in UTC+1 here! Nick Moyes (talk) 00:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing this, Nick. I had no idea this even happened until just now. I was one of the editors who originally moved the page to where it is, and participated in the discussion on the talk page. I didn't think this editor would start edit warring, trying to restore the article at the title with the upper-case "F", blank the original article and try to get it deleted, and now potentially evading their block with IPs from Indonesia because of a disappointment at the consensus not going their way. They've gone off the deep end over this.  Ss  112   01:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi again! Thank you very much for helping out. By the way, the page I struggled with was Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. There were so many invisible comments on the report form, it was very confusing to fill out (so I ditched it). I may be smart, but I'm not that smart. Helen  (let’s talk) 17:00, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , easiest way to report at the edit warring noticeboard is to use Twinkle. While on the editor's talk page, click the Twinkle menu and select ARV. In the report type dropdown, select Edit warring, then just fill in the fields. (Took me awhile to discover that capability in Twinkle.) Schazjmd   (talk)  17:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Good tip . Using Twinkle makes things so much simpler. I don't think I've ever needed to report anyone at that noticeboard, so those instructions are unfamiliar to me too. it's never easy to report anyone in 'the heat of the moment' if you first have to wade through lots of unfamiliar instructions. Should you ever want to learn new skills and practice warning/templating/reporting people in different ways, feel free to get in touch. Providing I'm forewarned and am free, I'd be happy to be used as a guinea pig user for you to to practice warning or reporting. I've seen you developing your interests in the administrative side of Wikipedia and if (as a relatively new admin myself) I can help you further your skills, I'd be only too happy to do so. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-26
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Recent changes
 * Wikis with the Growth features now can configure Growth features directly on their wiki. This uses the new special page.
 * Wikisources have a new OCR tool. If you don't want to see the "extract text" button on Wikisource you can add  to your common.css page.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a few minutes on 29 June. This is planned at 14:00 UTC.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * ,  and   can be set in preferences. They are expensive to maintain and few editors use them. The developers are planning to remove them. Removing them will make pages load faster. You can read more and give feedback.
 * A toolbar will be added to the Reply tool's wikitext source mode. This will make it easier to link to pages and to ping other users.

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16:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

TheWikiWizard-June 2021
Hello, Nick Moyes! Here is the June 2021 issue of TheWikiWizard.

Wikipedia News

 * The IRC channels used for Wikipedia have changed, you can read more on it here. While TWW was aware of this in the last issue, we decided to wait and publish this in this issue, when the issue is not as new any more, and more information has been developed.
 * There was quick interruption in editing on Wikipedia, that was to test server switching should an emergency happen, more details can be found here.

Humour

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 * Internet Explorer still thinks freenode is the best IRC service!
 * It has been proven that editing the article Cheese while eating Cheese is considered a WP:COI.
 * This joke has been donated to us from aliens, hopefully they learned UTF-8: ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£

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TheWikiWizard-June 2021
Hello, Nick Moyes! Here is the June 2021 issue of TheWikiWizard.

Wikipedia News

 * The IRC channels used for Wikipedia have changed, you can read more on it here. While TWW was aware of this in the last issue, we decided to wait and publish this in this issue, when the issue is not as new any more, and more information has been developed.
 * There was quick interruption in editing on Wikipedia, that was to test server switching should an emergency happen, more details can be found here.

Humour

 * This section was written by -- つがる   Talk to つがる:)  🍁


 * Internet Explorer still thinks freenode is the best IRC service!
 * It has been proven that editing the article Cheese while eating Cheese is considered a WP:COI.
 * This joke has been donated to us from aliens, hopefully they learned UTF-8: ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£

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More on maid abuse
Hi Nick, I saw your feedback from the Teahosue and am currently in the process of applying it. I moved the Prevalence section near the top and removed the list of ways to torture a domestic worker. It is really starting to look like an article. You also said to move some of the content from Domestic worker to this article. I noticed there was a large section about high-profile maid abuse cases. Should I include a section summarising those cases? Thanks,  Helen  (let’s talk) 20:42, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was already looking pretty good, and getting rid of the instructional list would be good! I confess to not looking in great detail at the Domestic worker article, but felt there were too many examples from one country there. I presume your article is intended not to relate specifically to one country, but I thought you could delete and move some of that detail into your article and use a template to link across to a country subsection (assuming all the high profile cases were from one country). When I first started looking at your draft, I thought to myself "why that title?" before appreciating it really is 'a thing' in certain parts of the world. I also wondered if there are any examples of men experiencing such abuse, which could be used to show that the term isn't necessarily gender-specific? Sorry if my reply is a bit waffly- but I'm sure you'll do good job with it. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:06, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * So far, I haven't come across any examples of violence against male domestic workers, which is why I titled the article 'maid abuse'. I'm certainly thinking about making a section for notable cases. Would it be okay if I copied the cases from the Domestic worker article into my sandbox, then removed the content from the article? Or is that a copyright infringement? Face-smile.svg Helen  (let’s talk) 21:15, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Being bold, yes, that would be OK. Make sure you give credit to editors if you copy from other articles (then ensure you WP:MOVE your sandbox, rather than just copy/paste the article contents so that you retain the edit histories and credits to other authors. (I'm not suggesting you credit individual authors; just link to the article you took content from).There's good advice at WP:COPYWITHIN and at WP:SPLITTING. Being somewhat 'less bold' you could raise your intentions on the talk page at Domestic worker, linking to your sandbox as you rightly did at the Teahouse, and seeing if anyone objects to your proposal, or offers alternative ideas for you. The choice is yours. Good luck. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:34, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I have published Maid abuse to article space, having felt it was ready. As for copying from other articles, I gave credit to the authors by using the phrease "copied content from Domestic worker; see that page's history for attribution". Face-smile.svg Helen  (let’s talk) 01:11, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-27
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Tech News
 * The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 19 July.

Recent changes
 * AutoWikiBrowser is a tool to make repetitive tasks easier. It now uses JSON.  has moved to   and  .   has moved to  . The tool will eventually be configured on the wiki so that you don't have to wait until the new version to add templates or regular expression fixes.

Problems
 * InternetArchiveBot helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to Wayback Machine and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from  to.

Changes later this week
 * The tool to find, add and remove templates will be updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It will come to the first wikis on 7 July. It will come to more wikis later this year.
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * Some Wikimedia wikis use Flagged Revisions or pending changes. It hides edits from new and unregistered accounts for readers until they have been patrolled. The auto review action in Flagged Revisions will no longer be logged. All old logs of auto-review will be removed. This is because it creates a lot of logs that are not very useful.

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17:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Genre warrior at Kid Ink
Hello, Nick. Could I persuade you to look at/forcefully warn/block 75.130.178.42? They've been edit-warring at Kid Ink, insistently adding an unsourced genre R&B (while simultaneously removing flatlist usages from the infobox), rarely with ES, never explained. Their battle with User:Binksternet at Jeezy is apparently more heated, judging from the edit summaries. Thanks, &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 18:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This person is acting like Long-term abuse/MusicLover650 who mostly uses Florida IPs but also some other East Coast US locations. Binksternet (talk) 18:14, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Binksternet; @JohnFromPinckney Thanks, guys. I'm a really bad choice of admin to ask to intervene about warring over music genres and such like. However, I'm not prepared to see that sort of abuse in edit summaries from anyone. So they've got a few days block from me for now. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:39, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Trialpears
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AGK • Eliz81 • Mulad • ThaddeusB • Vianello • Who
 * Pictogram voting rename.png →

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ragesoss



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AGK • DGG

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AGK

Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
 * An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news
 * IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration
 * The community authorised COVID-19 general sanctions have been superseded by the COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.

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 * What will happen with contributions pages like ours before the cutoff change. Are they gonna remain as a record, or purged altogether?103.130.61.61 (talk) 10:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)