User talk:Nicolalemon

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Hello, Nicolalemon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 14:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Nicolalemon. I can see you're making some good efforts to bring the article on the European Cultural Foundation up to scratch. I have one piece of advice about sourcing - we don't use wikipedia itself as a source in articles. What you should do is cite the source that another wikipedia article cites. For more information on what counts as a good source, have a look at the policy page on reliable sources. All the best, VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 14:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC).

HI VsevolodKrolikov,

Thanks for the advice, I have changed the links that were wikipedia's and added quite a few references in general and also re-worked the text. Do you think the article is ok? Thanks (Nicolalemon (talk) 08:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC))


 * You've certainly changed the tone from something promotional ("We....etc.") to more neutral. The sourcing is still a bit of a problem. You need to source factual statements and opinions, not the existence of people or things with articles on wikipedia. Examples of unnecessary sourcing are: you link to europa.eu when mentioning the European Union - but you don't need to (and shouldn't) do this - just wikify the link with the square brackets, which you have done. You also link to the homepage of the Dutch royal family when there's a wiki article on Prince Bernhard, and something similar linking to Robert Schuman. Examples of statements which need sourcing are things like as "from the early 1980s the ECF became increasingly active in Eastern Europe, and so was well-placed to react to the dramatic changes that took place in that region by the end of the decade." this really must be sourced, and to an independent source (best is Independent news or academic coverage). It's effectively a statement about how good the foundation was at the time, and what it was able to do. Any praise or criticism needs good sourcing. Another example is "ECF Capacity Development has recently spread its influence beyond the Balkans, e.g. into the Anatolian region of Turkey and as far as Russia." also should be sourced, so that people can check in more detail what is meant, and how we know it's true. VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 09:35, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've started adding a few sources. Perhaps we should continue this conversation on the article talkpage, so other editors know what's going on. VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 09:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

HI, thanks alot for putting in some examples I really appreciate you outlining what guidelines in a practical way. However I am abit confused the examples you say above is text I have not changed and has been online for years without referencing. I would continue this online on the article page but I can't find it. I am getting abit depressed about how time this is taking and how many times I have t change things :-( (Nicolalemon

Hi again VsevolodKrolikov- I have made quite some changes - on the page now - can you review it and let me know if its ok... i really cut it and made more links external. I made the eits under other name - Nicola48 - as I forgot my other password to this account and remebered a previous one - in case you cant see the changes in my history. However I have one final question - Wikipedia and Facebook - kind of feed content from WIKI to FB - do i need to manually change my page og FB or will it be updated by a Wiki/FB feed?(Nicolalemon

Hi VsevolodKrolikov - I have been waiting for an answer on the re-edited post for 3 months now - are you still looking at the page? Can you check and please remove the tags you have on the top of the page as I have cleared up those concerns areas. Thanks for being in touch, (Nicolalemon (talk) 15:52, 14 January 2011 (UTC)nicola) nicola