User talk:Nicole.m.m

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November 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to List of public art at the Indiana Statehouse has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Caltas (talk) 21:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Welcome and adoption offer
Hello, Nicole, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you enjoy it here. I see you're looking for an experienced user to adopt you. I'm very familiar with Wikipedia and I would be happy to adopt you. Just let me know on my talk page if you're interested!  Swarm   X 09:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

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Problems with upload of File:Bust of William H. English.jpg
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Problems with upload of File:Untitled (Indians, Reaper, Black Smoth, Pioneer Family).jpg
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Bust of William H. English (Indiana Statehouse, Rotunda)
I've had to do a lot of tidying up of this article to leave it in a fit state to be seen in an encyclopedia. If you are using a "boiler-plate" template to create an article, please do so in your own userspace and don't copy it into the encyclopedia until it is ready. What you left was really rather a mess. Please have more respect for the encyclopedia in future. Thanks. PamD (talk) 23:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, Nicole. In regards to Pam's message above, articles that are still under development should have under construction placed at the top, but otherwise there's no rule against continuing to develop "live articles". Though Pam essentially 'cleaned up' the article, feel free to let me know if it would help to revert any changes she made (I wouldn't advise it by default, but if she mistakenly changed something that interferes with the article's development it can be done). I've added the "under construction" template another one of your live articles that is obviously still unfinished. Any questions, let me know!  Swarm   X 01:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Nicole, Sorry if my comments above seemed a bit harsh, but it was late at night this side of the big water, and I was feeling a bit exasperated at the number of edits I'd had to make to put the article into a state which seemed to me to be fit to be seen in public. I was working through "stub-sorting", and I'm used to coming across articles which need a bit of a cleanup, but I was a bit taken aback by this one which so obviously didn't look ready to hit the public encyclopedia. In fact I looked at its edit history after I'd left my message, realised you had developed it in userspace and then moved it, as I'd suggested, and was so surprised that I couldn't think of anything else much to say!  I also then saw that you'd got a mentor - if I'd spotted that sooner I might have left the article alone and left him/her to help tidy up the article.


 * While I'm quite in agreement with Swarm's statement that "there's no problem in continuing to develop 'live articles' " - in fact the whole encyclopedia is permanently "under development" - I don't think it's good for the encyclopedia to put something online which looks as un-ready as your work-in-progress did, with the initial boiler-plate paragraph not made specific to the item in question and so forth. Incomplete is one thing, this was another. Please don't let this discourage you from your editing, but please remember that whatever you put into "article space" is a Wikipedia article from the time you hit "save page", and is available round the world as part of the encyclopedia. I tried to explain what I was doing in each edit and make them separate so you could undo any specific bits of my work to develop sections of the article further, and I'll be interested to watch its progress. Thanks, and happy editing! PamD (talk) 09:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Response to PamD
I am sure my article was an absolute sight to be seen. And no worries, I needed to be "shaken-up" to realize the gravity of Wikipedia as a public source of information. I am a bit green. I also properly expanded my user page and include a link to the wiki-articles I am working on. I have worked on cleaning up the language to reflect a more appropriate article and neutral POV, per Wikipedia's requirements. I also want to clean-up my reference list, but I am a bit stuck. I cannot locate and expand the reflist ? Can you help?

I kindly thank you very,very much. Nicole.m.m 8:26 EST 6 December 2010


 * Hi Nicole, and again, sorry if I was a bit brusque, but the article is certainly looking a lot better now. The points I listed on Swarm's talk page were supposed just to be helpful pointers to improve the article, things which had occurred to me while I was looking at the article and which s/he might have wanted to raise with you in mentoring you on the article - s/he seems to have misinterpreted that as my insisting on grammatical flawlessness. Ah well.

A few more thoughts - you asked for help with what's now become Untitled (Mueller):
 * I've not come across the use of "proper right" and "proper left" before. I could work out what they mean, but it brought me up short in reading the articles. I wonder whether just "his right" (for his parting) etc would be more helpful for the non-specialist Wikipedia reader? (I've had a look at Mona Lisa and Night Watch (painting), as the first 2 artworks which came to mind, to see usage, and can't find "proper" used in either of them).  This might be something to discuss with your colleagues or tutor - in the Mueller article there's a lot of right and left in the description, and I don't know what the standard usage is when writing for a non-specialist audience. Possibly "the observer's right" etc for the Mueller, reversing what you've done? Could be worth looking at some of Wikipedia's best art articles - you can see the list at Featured_articles. There aren't many realistic sculptures in the list to use as models, as far as I can see, unfortunately.
 * Now that it's been retitled, you need to add a link from Untitled disambiguation page, and you need to update the entry in the template which links to it. In fact Richard should have done this when he moved the page - when you move a page you should check Special:WhatLinksHere/Untitled_(Mueller) and tidy up incoming links as needed. .... OK, I've updated the template. I leave it to you to add the disambiguation page link.
 * The dimensions in the infobox look dodgy - down to a tenth of a millimeter, for something made of stone? Is it a poor conversion?
 * You can merge the 3 occurences of ref 1/2/3: Change to  the first time, then replace the other two whole references by . Much tidier.
 * You can have links in the infobox - eg to artist and building
 * Can you get any pictures which show the figures more clearly? I imagine it's difficult with them being so high up!
 * In case you haven't noticed, I added a mention of the bust, and your image, to the article at William Hayden English.

Sorry if that's a rather random set of comments - I'm being interrupted by Mother (93) wanting to know why I haven't sat down to breakfast. Must go. PamD (talk) 09:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And don't forget that you can sign comments on a talk page by typing ~ or using the button on the edit bar. Cheers. PamD (talk) 09:29, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Untitled (Indians, Reaper, Black Smoth, Pioneer Family).jpg
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