User talk:Nigel Ish/Archive 1

Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano changes
I have placed many sources as you requested. Dafranca (talk) 18:34, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

TeST TST-6 Duo
Thanks for fixing that. I guess if your head gets too close to the prop... - Ahunt (talk) 19:49, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Aviatar
I'll bear that in mind. It wasn't my link (honest, guv): there was a dead link to a website & I thought the aviastar website was where it was meant to be pointing. And sorry about all my typos &c....TheLongTone (talk) 17:35, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

McDonnell XF-85 Goblin
See my comment on this astounding request. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:42, 1 October 2011 (UTC).

Aerobatic aircraft
Hi Nigel Ish, I have seen this, I have thought maybe you would like to help me improving this article, and creating articles about others aerobatic aircraft. Bye--AeroPsico (talk) 15:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Yakovlev AIR-7
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

FYI

 * Greetings, please note that a sock/troll is out to discredit my sourced edits on a number of article pages you just reverted. Thanks and best. -- Dave  ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:55, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Tupolev ANT-41
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The Bugle: Issue LXVIII, October 2011
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Re: Lockheed F-104 Starfighter
I'm sorry you found my edit to be innapropriate. Admittedly I did not look through the entire history of the article. I was recent changes patrolling and I reverted the removal of a lot of content by an anonymous user. The information they had removed had most recently been added by a registered user, Tymun, so I assumed it was not constructive to remove it. Additionally, I hardly find the warning Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Lockheed F-104 Starfighter with this edit, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. "bity," it is inappropriate to remove large chunks of an article without giving a reason. Millermk90 (talk) 00:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

dont understand
hi, "revert statement of the bleeding obvious from caption": what does that mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaa3-other (talk • contribs) 14:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Simply that you changes to the caption were unecessary in that they stated things that were clear from the photograph themselves and were just un-needed clutter.Nigel Ish (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * ok now i see its "of the" "bleeding[-ly] obvious" "from caption", i couldnt imagine and thought of "of" "the bleeding" "obvious from the" "caption". & wondering what blood? caption obviously bleeding? or so --Aaa3-other | Talk | Contribs 17:33, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Season's tidings!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:16, 25 December 2011 (UTC).

V-liner
Where do you come across these strange aircraft designs? Thought I'd heard of most of them and then you spring two aircraft joined together by a giant pylon. I've prowled through Flight and I can't make a link between the flying Tiger CAMCO and a 1960s design group - so your instinct is right there. PS If you haven't already done so, the Pathe link is rather good (IMHO). Now must be off - while trying to find Flight material on the V-Liner I saw a British tilt-rotor design that looked rather interesting... GraemeLeggett (talk) 19:46, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
For this revert. That one editor seems determined to remove all criticism of this aircraft. I am really beginning to wonder if he isn't WP:COI. - Ahunt (talk) 20:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I had a look though his editing history, which consists almost all of pro-Avanti edits and left him a COI warning. I appreciate you keeping a watch on that article. - Ahunt (talk) 20:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

AW101 help
Hello Nigel Ish. I noticed your efforts to cite entries on the Variants subsection of the AW101 article; so I assumed that you may have access to further materials. There are only three or four models listed now that don't have a cite for them; I'm still working on getting that sorted, but if you have an easy solution already, could you either drop me a line with the answer, or just fill it in yourself? It would be appreciated, I don't mind doing the work myself if that makes it easier. Thanks. Kyteto (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you've spared me a long hunt. Kyteto (talk) 13:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Dassault Dornier Alpha Jet
Undid revision 475840286 by Lexington50 (talk) - source says two seat for all versions

Before I revert your edit I'll give you the opportunity to specify exactly which "source" you are referring to.

The Alpha Jet A was not operated in the two seat configuration - this can be verified by consulting any of the standard reference works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lexington50 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Jane's All The World's Aircraft 1982–83, which the specifications were already sourced to. Jane's is pretty much the definition of a "standard reference work".Nigel Ish (talk) 09:15, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Kaproni Bulgarski KB-11 Fazan
Orlady (talk) 10:07, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Jodel Ambassadeur
Hi Nigel Ish,

I just stumbled across User:Nigel Ish/Sandbox Jodel Ambassadeur, when I was browsing Commons for images of the Jodel DR 100 family. I am recently working on an Article about those aircraft for the german language Wikipedia (see de:User:El Grafo/Jodel DR100 de:Jodel DR 100). You are probably not done yet too, but it looks like the information available from Jane's might be to some point incomplete or inaccurate concerning the sub-models (for example, the name Ambassadeur was not used until the DR.105 came out). I have recently acquired two excellent French Books about the Jodel and Robin aircraft. If you can read French, I might be able to send you some copies of the relevant pages – or if you can't, maybe I am able to answer you some questions. Greetings, --El Grafo (talk) 19:22, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Sea King variants cites
Hello Nigel. I remember from the AW101 that you appear to have a good source of reference materials when it comes to helicopters, so I wondered, would there be anything on my current undertaking, the Westland Sea King? I've completed the basic core overhaul of the text, which isn't perfect but stands as a great deal better than previous conditions, I'm still scratching up a few more books here and there, but it isn't likely I'm going to come across a compendium of model/variant designations I'm afraid. If you have time on your hands, could you check for me? If I can do any favours in return, let me know, I'll be happy to assist you. Kyteto (talk) 21:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

RE:Battle off Endau - overquoting?
Most of these quotes were taken from google book previews. My concern is that should google cease to preview those sources in future, then sooner or later someone might challenge any information in the article. And I'm not sure if simply providing the book and page as a source is reliable enough (unless wiki policy permits that). I certainly hope that copyvio is not the case, but if it is then I'm more than willing to revert my edits. Wolcott (talk) 17:12, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If book and page wasn't acceptable - then we couldn't use Shortened footnotes, which is a very popular means of citing books.
 * What about dead links? If material was taken from a google book preview or website which no longer exists, does that mean the material itself risks being challenged by a user and removed in future as a result? So far I've found at least one website from the article I cited years ago which has now disappeared, which led to my concern and resort to extracting quotes from the sources instead. Wolcott (talk) 10:45, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Rephrase: ...does that mean the material itself risks being challenged by a user and either removed or altered in future as a result? Wolcott (talk) 10:47, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No more than any other paper book/magazine used as references. Online sources are not mandatory.Nigel Ish (talk) 13:12, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

enemy war reports
why do you erase them ? just because they are unfriendly for RAF ? --Gonzosft (talk) 14:52, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied on article talk page.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Dyott Bomber
The DYK project (nominate) 16:07, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of PZL SM-4 Łątka
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DYK for PZL SM-4 Łątka
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Former and current users
Hi Nigel Ish Thankyou i will have an opinion about current and former users of different aircraft. I had no idea that anyone would take any notice of my work? Have a great day! Lovetravel86 20:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovetravel86 (talk • contribs)

Talkback template
--John (talk) 12:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Competency issues

 * WP:Competence is required
 * Hi Nigel, wana see what Eddaido said on my talk page? Now, as for my primary concern he has yet to answer me after I asked him if English is his first language. -- Dave  ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 09:14, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * this response is interesting - it seems that the editor in question was looking for a reaction. Its probably best to let the editor be for a while If the warning works, all well and good, if it doesn't and the editor continues to act the fool then what will happen will happen.Nigel Ish (talk) 09:28, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

S-76
Nigel: It looks like you got left out of notification of this even though you were part of the talk page discussion. - Ahunt (talk) 23:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Nice work on your improvements to the article! - Ahunt (talk) 22:30, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

In Re DC-9 Article
I hold the view that describing the DC-9 as Out of Production, in Limited Service is the only proper and truthful way to go. The aircraft is not in production anymore (although I wish they would restart it and the DC-10), and it unlike the later DC-10 is only seen in limited use unlike said DC-10. A check out outside sources bore this out to me. So I must insist that the description be restored as stated above. If anyone wishes to disagree, tell me so and I'll consider your statements. But accuracy and truthfulness must be upheld in descriptions of objects and events, I always have believed that. In Re, in case you ask is a Latin phrase, in English it's "In The Matter Of" or "Concerning (The Matter Of)". I tend you use In Re alot in titling my writings. I will be restoring my own edit version pending an opinion from an administrator I contacted for instructions. I ask you not try to override me again until his opinion is received. It's Finlayson I contacted in case you wish to know. 68.236.155.234 (talk) 20:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Jack Maloney‎
Thanks for making a comment there! Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 17:49, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for the T-3. Can you help in writing articles for aircraft IMPA and gliders production of Argentina? Лукас Фокс (talk) 19:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pemberton-Billing P.B.1
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Bo105 Response
Your claim that Flight International is one of the "Most reliable sources" is based solely on your opinion. How can I verify this? I would have to buy a subscription, they don't carry this magazine at my library WP:Reliable sources/Cost. Should I just hope you made a " good faith edit  "? Maybe you misread part of it. I have read similar articles in Aviation Week & Space Technology and unfortunately they (Aviation Magazines) sometimes recycle their "current military operators" lists from the previous year. (So they may not be as up to date). The sources I provided allows the reader to physically see on-line what is being represented in this article. Clearly this Bo105 sports the title of Canadian Coast Guard  Fisheries and Oceans Canada  on the side on the it's fuselage. Other sources I used like this this is very specific to the operator, registration number. and last year sold. I realize that some sources, can't relay if the fleets are current. I don't mean to impugn on your work, and I'm sure your very good at what you do here. I apologizes for trampling over you work, and will add my references as a secondary source. Regards FOX 52 (talk) 22:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The use of photos as references has been discussed at the Reliable Sources noticeboard and has been rejected. Airliners.net (or at least the photos side of it) involves user submitted information so there is nothing to prove that the photos have not been faked up or that they represent what they are meant to represent. Please keep to WP:RSs.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No Airliners.net has a staff to review submitted information, and photos where they will apply corrections if needed as per their (aircraft)registration number. I've uploaded a few to that site, so I know from expiernce. Something from "flickr" I would agree. Anyways do you have a link to the discussion on the "Reliable Sources noticeboard" pertaining to Airliners.net, I tried the noticeboard archives and I got nothing FOX 52 (talk) 23:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * While Airliners.net does have staff, we can't be certain that they'll catch every flaw, or that a very convincing or plausable mistake won't get given some leeway. Verifiability supports verifiability over truth; under which sources are actually more valued for their reputation for accuracy and suitability than absolute truth itself - Flight International is one of the paramount publications in the aviation industry, it most certainly passes WP:V as a respected, well-established published source. Primary sources (see WP:Primary) and User-content sources are typically avoided as plausably unverifiable/not approved by a knowledgable editor/source prior to publication (It's quite a different thing to be chasing after content following release to edit claims and falsehoods in retrospective). I don't mean to do the source down, but it isn't what would typically count as suitable, when there's other material available that passes without any hitch. Kyteto (talk) 00:00, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * If I may, the bottom line is that images can not be used as inline reference citations. I inquired at WT:RS around November 2009 whether an image could be used as a source/citation. An article was under featured article review and a reviewer questioned the validity of an image showing a museum exhibit (added by another editor and formatted as a citation) as proof of its existence and location. The image link had to be removed and an alternative written source was found.


 * My understanding of this guideline is that you can not cite the fact that London buses are red by using an image of a very obviously red London bus. Strange perhaps but this is how Wikipedia works, stranger still that this does not seem to appear on the main WP:RS guideline page which is something I might take up with whoever runs that part of the project, the question has appeared many times on the talk page. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by)    02:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Request for a name change
Need more eyes to look at what is a bit of a contentious issue in assigning a name to an aircraft-oriented article. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Season's tidings!
To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:29, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

wp:aviastar?
you reverted an edit I made here, and suggested a page to see, which doesn't exist. Is there another link to possibly view ? Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 16:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's the right link - WikiProject Aircraft/Aviastar - basically the Aviastar site contains very large scale blatent sopyvio and MUST NOT be linked to or used as a reference. Annoying, but it is something we have to be very careful of when using websites as references or external links.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Apologies
I didn't mean anything as an attack; upon reflection, I could have been a bit less harsh in my comments there. You have my most sincere apologies. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

204 Squadron RAF
Speaking of copyvio: is this usage to be considered kosher? No. 204 Squadron RAF It is offered on Amazon and gives as editiors Ronald Cohn and Jesse Russell, but uses Wikipedia text.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 18:02, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As all Wikipedia entries are licensed under a CC-BY-SA 3.0, the book would not be a copyvio as long as the text was properly attributed and licensed - see Reusing Wikipedia content.Nigel Ish (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Offence caused to you?
Hi,

Recent comments at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft seemed to cause you offence. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding a related issue. Thank you. See Bureaucrat OhanaUnited - are they right, am I wrong? &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 13:47, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I am not going to reply on the ANI thread. I am done with the issue and see little point in trying to cross swords with an admin who accuses editors who have conflicting views of finding bad examples to illustrate a point. As it is clear that any attempt to argue that photos on airliners.net may not be a reliable source are unwelcome, and will be considered pointy then there is no valuein participating in the discussion, as at best it will only result in mockery and at worst, being blocked.Nigel Ish (talk) 14:11, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Bristol Gordon-England
Hi, do you want to rewrite this, then? I'ts a very underdeveloped article with errors, & I've now lost two edits to edit conflicts!TheLongTone (talk) 11:21, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't see the in-use template until I submitted the edit. I apologise for any edit conflictsNigel Ish (talk) 11:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries, it gets easier the more you do it & I do try to remember to keep a copy of major edits in Word, & I appreciate your diving in to correct my error with the link & the addition: I often don't preview because it frequently hangs my browser.TheLongTone (talk) 11:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Glitch
I appreciate you pointing the Helis.com site snafu with respect to the WP:SPS, I guess I'll have to do some more digging to find better sources. I would like to bring to your attention, that while Flight International is a fine magazine, their lists aren't always current. Example Royal Thai Air force S-92 but yet no listing, on Flight International. Here you put the UH-1N back with the US Navy as a current user, unfortunately these guys had it right. backed up with these:    One of the reasons am not a big fan of the "magazine instant lists". And it's gotta make you wonder, where'd they information from? Same place the guys from Helis.com got theirs? Anyways this isn't a tit-for tat, I just wanted to make you aware of the glitch. I'm a stickler when it comes to sourcing items, and probably do more investigating references than I should. Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 07:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And if you actually bother to look at the references you supply re the UH-1N, one is a blog of uncertain provenance, one is a caption on airliners.net (which there is disagreement about its reliability) and the third is a press release from 2004, saying that the US Navy plans to retire the HH-1N by 2009. Hardly definitive. Flight International says that its World Air Forces directory uses fleet data compiled for its premium industry databases, so its not as if its made up.Nigel Ish (talk) 10:21, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It isn't actually a problem that the lists Flight International use are not current - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and thus is written across the brendth of time, and doesn't need to take a 'current status/events' angle, in fact it is discouraged in some areas as this can lend itself to revisionism. By reflecting the thoughts and details not just from multiple sources, but multiple sources of multiple time periods, the article becomes a far stronger reflection of the topic that if we were to take everything from one moot time point. That the information of a source isn't dated to the year and month we are currently occupying isn't a problem for most encyclopedic purposes. Kyteto (talk) 12:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

You completely skipped over the first and most important example straight from the horse's mouth. How do you explain their omission of the S-92 for the Korean Air Force and Royal Thai Air force. This list is as current as they get - 2013. I wish it was as simple as a "one stop-shop list". Unfortunately these magazines don't put in much effort to review every Air Force's status. I have found similar issues with Aviation Week & Space Technology year end World Air Force listings FOX 52 (talk) 18:06, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The Youtube clip was unviewable when I tried it. The two S-92 orders appear to be for VVIP aircraft, which the Flight directory doesn't appear to include, and hasn't done for several years, which is also true for small General Aviation types. You cannot use absence from the report as positive proof that an aircraft type has been retired by an operator - that needs specific sourcing - which is why splitting operator sections into Current and Former operators is such a bad idea, as for minor types and operators, such information is often not available in anything that could count as a WP:RS.Nigel Ish (talk) 18:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok you're kind of going off track here, I'm merely pointing out, that these list sometime can be outdated. If folks on some blog or forum,(ei; helis.com) are talking about  an aircraft that "has been retired", well then maybe there's something behind it. So yes the US Navy no longer has any UH-1's in their fleet. KTVN channel2 News Defense-Technology News and the last flight heading to be put on display alabamaaviator.com. Bottom line Flight International is still a good source, but if you see or suspect a discrepancy, just look into it a bit, or tell me about it I'll do the looking. Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 05:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Regarding your edits on No. 118 Squadron RAF
Hello There Nigel, I see that you put some effort into No. 118 Squadron RAF article, but the case is, the article lacks inline citations, are you familiar with WP:CITE? As your edits seem to be way too recent I'm going to refrain from editing right now to prevent Help:Edit conflict, if you want me to join your efforts, please talk me back. Regards Eduemoni↑talk↓  17:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Message
You got a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 09:13, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Admin?
Hey. I've seen you around quite a long time now, and noticed your name come up as an admin possibility. While I'm sure you've been asked before, I'm wondering if you've given the possibility of running for adminship any thought. More copyright admins are definitely needed, and I've definitely seen you help out a lot there. Wizardman 20:02, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
Hey Nigel Ish; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:49, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hawker Horsley
I didnt change the ISBN's I just used the standard ISBN-13 where -10's where used before. both versions of the ISBN refer to the same book. Werieth (talk) 13:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Italian recruitment in WWI
About this edit, are you saying that all males that were 19 and older were conscripted prior to the Battle of Caporetto? Does that mean that after the battle, Italy decreased the required age for conscription to 18? If so, I think we should reword the article, because as it stands right now, it looks like Italy was just picking on anyone who was the specific age of 18, while ignoring everyone older or younger. PraetorianFury (talk) 20:56, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Mantis eating a Common Bushbrown (Mycalesis perseus) butterfly.jpg
Oh, my bad. So could you delete it, please. J Kadavoor J e e 08:27, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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RFB Fantrainer/Fanliner
Hello Mr Ish. Looking through my photo collection, I have found a slide of the prototype RFB Fanliner which I took at the June 1975 Paris Air Show. I have just contributed it to Wiki Commons as 'RFB Fanliner D-EJFL LEB 07.06.75 edited-3.jpg'. To my eyes, this type seems much the same as the Fantrainer. However it predates the Fantrainer by three years. The Fanliner is not listed in the Wiki type index, which is surprising. I see that you have made major contributions to the Fantrainer article, so I wonder if you might use your accumulated knowledge to decide whether to add the Fanliner (so described at Paris in 1975) to the Fantrainer article. I cannot find any references to the Fanliner anywhere and think you would be best placed to add it, if you so judge, to the existing Wiki article. Regards RuthAS (talk) 21:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The Fanliner (technically the RFB/Grumman American Fanliner according to the 1976 Jane's) is a distinct type compared to the Fantrainer, being much smaller and lighter, and probably warrants its own article. I'll see if I can find sufficient sources to knock up an article.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:53, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * And here it is.Nigel Ish (talk) 23:59, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello Mr Ish. You certainly did find enough material for a very worthwhile article on the Fanliner - I've learnt much from reading it!  Your access to the relevant Janes is invaluable. Have added the type to the aircraft index page; also an image of a production RW 3.P75 clearly showing the propellor installation.  Regards RuthAS (talk) 11:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

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D'oh!

 * This was me being forgetful, thanks for finding the stray! :) -- Dave  ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 19:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

HMS Firedrake (1912)
Nigel, I recognise the quality of the changes you made to HMS Firedrake (1912), but the reference you gave for her having 2 shafts said nothing about the number of shafts in a Yarrow Special Acheron-class destroyer. The Clyde Database says 3 shafts, 3 turbines. Accordingly, I've changed it back to three (verifiable, not necessarily true). Do you know something I don't, or did you just mis-read the reference? Yours, Shem (talk) 21:33, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I referenced the change to the Engineer of 12 July 1912- which says on p.39 - "The vessel is 255ft. long by 25ft. 7in. beam, and is propelled by Parsons turbines driving two shafts, steam being supplied by three Yarrow water-tube boilers fitted with the firm's latest feed-heating devices." Friedman also indicates on p. 123 of British Destroyers that at least the six "normal" specials, together with the three John Brown Acherons, were two shaft ships.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:48, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I missed that piece - I was reading p.35. Sorry.  I'll put it right by the end of the day, as well as Oak and Lurcher.  Thanks for your patience. Shem (talk) 10:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. Shem (talk) 21:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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Edit Warring
Are you really serious! Do you not see on the talk page that a consensus was reached with Bushranger and others that McSly then edit-warred a month afterwards. Go review before replying please! Furthermore my changes are in line with German wiki https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_Typhoon which was arrived at by the independent consensus of a third opinion - see '3O'. Z07x10 (talk) 19:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You personally have reverted at least 4 times today on Typhoon, while User:McSly has also edit warred although they have not broken 3rr yet - breaching 3rr in a content dispute is a no-no, whether or not you think you are right.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay so it's all about timing or having username aliases? Could I request some intermediate page protection until this dispute is resolved.Z07x10 (talk) 20:10, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Be very careful about making those sort of accusations without any proof as they can bounce back and hit you if they are unfounded. Please use proper channels for dispute resolution.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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