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The Game of Life
Please be careful with what you call vandalism. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia
Hello, I saw your comment on the issue of requiring autoconfirmed status before creating new articles, and it impressed me as very perceptive for a new editor. I hope you stay around and ... create some new articles. Feel free to ask me for help at any time. One tip – sign your comments on discussion pages with four tildes at the end, like this: ~

The Wikipedia software will add your signature, and a date and time stamp. Good luck! Cullen328 (talk) 15:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

William Asplin
Hello, Nightenbelle. Just a reminder that if you nominate an article for deletion, you should let its creator know. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

American Income Life Insurance Company
Thanks for your improvements to the American Income Life Insurance Company page! It looks so much better now! Mgbaker22 (talk) 13:25, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to MSG Varsity, did not appear to be constructive and has beenreverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you! -- Superman768 (talk) 19:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

--My Edit was not vandalism- I removed non-pov. Check the edit historyNightenbelle (talk) 14:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

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Copy edit request
Hi. I've nominated an article for GA that is presently being reviewed for inclusion. The article isHowling Bells, and this is its second attempt at GAN. The reviewer feels that the prose is not up to par and has suggested that it undergo a copy edit. I've looked at your page and feel comfortable in asking for your assistance. Would you be willing to have a go at it?Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

--No Prob bob. :-) I'll look into it tonight (I'm getting ready to head out to a meeting) Or tomorrow at work. Thanks for thinking of me!! Nightenbelle (talk) 22:16, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

---No Prob bob. ;D make me laugh. I'm down with informality too. It's great. This world needs more of it. Thanks for your willingness to look at the article. Mattchewbaca(meow) 22:47, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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Help please
Hi. I am Jivesh. I edit strictly Beyonce-related articles on Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could do a copy-edit of Green Light (Beyoncé Knowles song) for me? Please reply on my talk-page. Waiting in anticipation. Jivesh   •  Talk2Me  10:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Nightenbelle!

I have put together a survey for female editors of Wikipedia (and related projects) in order to explore, in greater detail, women's experiences and roles within the Wikimedia movement. It'd be wonderful if you could participate!

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Cheers! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 05:08, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

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F1 talk page
Hi there – don't take any offence at what I might say in that protracted discussion at the WikiProject F1 page – I certainly am not aiming any criticism at you. It's an unusually lengthy and ridiculous argument, for reasons which will no doubt become clear later, and I hope you'll understand. All the best, Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi again – just to say that the editor I was arguing against has been blocked as a sockpuppet of another blocked editor I had a run-in with a while ago. I couldn't say so at that time because it wasn't proven, but my suspicions were the only reason I was dragging out that ridiculous argument. I don't want anyone to think that kind of debate is typical of my contributions ;) I hope it doesn't stop you helping out next time you see my name somewhere! Cheers, Bretonbanquet(talk) 18:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

CVUA Enrollee!
Hi! I noticed you have noted that you would like to enroll with the CVU Academy! I would be happy to take you on as my enrollee if you are interested? If you are, please leave a note at my talk page Mr Little Irish  (talk) © 13:28, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Nightenbelle, I have just had a look through your contributions, and it does look like you have a pretty good grasp of what vandalism is. Have you tried to apply for Rollback?. Feel free to reply here, as I have your talk page watchlisted now. Mr Little Irish  (talk)© 13:40, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have and make very happy useage of Rollback :-) Just finished a rollback when I got this message as a matter of fact :-)Nightenbelle (talk) 13:45, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I just had a look at that one, you must remember that Rollback is only to be used for reverting explicit vandalism, spelling mistakes aren't vandalism. Try to be careful in that respect. So I see you use Twinkle at the moment, have you tried Huggle? Huggle reverts, then places a warning, and if needed reports them at WP:AIV. Mr Little Irish  (talk) © 14:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The one I had rollbacked before I posted was obvious vandal. The spelling mistake- I didn't even think before I hit the Vandal- You're right- I should have just reverted that one. I have not tried huggle- and if it can do all that without the six steps I go through now- I would be thrilled! I can't download at work however- so I have to do things the "hard" way here. I will download and experimient with it tonight. Then I can ask questions when (not if I'm sure) I get confused?Nightenbelle (talk) 14:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Huggle is awesome. One click does it all. You just have to be super careful because if you revert something in error, you have to manually undo everything. But if it's not vandalism, it's not a rollback, it's an undo :) And yes, if you have any questions, ask me! That's what I'm here for as your instructor! Mr Little Irish  (talk) © 14:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I guess I'll jump in again on this little conversation too. Huggle is amazing! Just make sure you read the manual because I couldn't get it to work and it turned out I didn't follow the directions :D Dan653 (talk) 23:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Nightenbelle, Just looking through your reverts again, I noticed that you're not warning all vandals you revert. You should probably do that incase they are consistantly vandalising. Mr Little Irish  (talk) © 10:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * When I go to warn them, sometimes cluebot or another has already warned them for the exact revert I just did- its like cluebot and I got there at the same time, but I got the rollback and he got the warning- should I re-warn them then? And do you warn for even small changes? I got yelled at for that before too. If I'm supposed to- I'll do it and damn the screamers after, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the help! Nightenbelle (talk) 12:36, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If they've been warned for the same, no, don't warn again. And what do you mean by small changes? If it's an outright vandalism edit you are reverting, make sure there is a warning (by anybody, E.g. Cluebot) on their talk page. If it's a simple undo because the previous version was better, include the reason in the edit summary, but don't warn. If you do get stuck, I'm here to help :) Mr Little Irish  (talk)© 12:40, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a note, ClueBot won't leave a warning unless it does the revert, so if you see an note from ClueBot on a page you've just reverted, that means that the Vandal is attacking the same page more than once (very common). Also, for "small edits" (like adding " " to a page) you can use uw-test1 as opposed to uw-vandalism1, which has softer language and Assumes Better Faith. Achowat (talk) 13:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Will do. :-) Nightenbelle (talk) 15:18, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So aparently I'm a moron, and I thought I had rollback, but all I really had was Twinkle. I put in a request for Permissions, and I feel dumb. Nightenbelle (talk) 16:08, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * How are you finding Rollback? Have you had a chance to use Huggle yet? Mr Little Irish  (talk) © 09:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Your rollback request
Hi Nightenbelle, I have granted rollback rights to your account in accordance with your request. Please be aware that rollback should be used to revert vandalism/spam/blatantly unconstructive edits, and that using it to revert anything else (such as by revert-warring or reverting edits you disagree with) can lead to it being removed from your account...sometimes without any warning, depending on the admin who becomes aware of any misuse. If you think an edit should require a reason for reverting, then don't use rollback and instead use a manual edit summary. For practice, you may wish to see New admin school/Rollback. Good luck. Acalamari 19:21, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Hunting permit in Germany
It is a fact that not everybody can easily get a hunting permit in Germany, as the German cuisine page seemed to imply. Unlike America, you can't just walk up to some local office, pay a fee and get one. The exam is known as "the green diploma" because it requires some serious studying. Maybe you could argue that saying so doesn't belong on that page, but even then it hardly constitutes vandalism. Thanks. -- 92.230.209.90 (talk) 19:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I re-added it with source now, I hope it's OK that way? What about my previous edits, may I reinstate them too? --92.230.209.90 (talk) 19:59, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Rollback Errors
Nightenbelle, I just wanted to give you a friendly reminder to double-check facts and changes if they appear to be legit before mashing your "Q" key. You've made several errors in rollbacks in the past half hour. I've cleared a few of them up for you, but it would be appreciated if you slowed down and took your time while going through recent edits. Most recentlyKim Myong-Won – If you did a quick Google search, you would've noticed that Kim indeed switched from a North Korean team to a Mongolian team. Just wanted to leave a simple reminder – keep up the good work. --Slazenger  (Contact Me)  20:01, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi!
Hey Nightenbelle, how are things? I see you've been given some feedback in regards to rollback, and I was just wondering how you were getting on? Are you comfortable with finding and identifying vandalism? If you get stuck, give me a shout :) Mr Little Irish  (talk) ©08:35, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I feel like I'm getting on fine. The mistake that the above user corrected me on was odd. The name of the Team the guy joined is like Baaaanaaaata or something close too that, I think mistaking it as Vandalism is understandable. But I'll slow down and google more often. Nightenbelle (talk) 16:39, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in the April 2012 Wikification Drive!
Your efforts are appreciated!!! :) Like my singing? Ha-la-la-la-la-la-LA-LAAA!!! (talk) 22:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello :)
Hi, how are things going? Mr Little Irish (talk)© 16:19, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hiya!!! I think things are going much smoother- I am much more cautious about labeling vandalism, and if I am unfamiliar with the subject and its not obvious cursing or what have you- I take the time to do a little research. I'm figuring out the tagging options in huggle now- this is SUCH a great tool- makes life SO much easier!Nightenbelle (talk) 16:21, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That's great! I'm glad you're getting to grips with the tool, and the vandalism :) Mr Little Irish  (talk) © 16:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Graduation!

 * Thank you for your guidence!

Po (river)
Good day,

I'm wondering why you reverted my rollback on the above, using Huggle which is a vandalism tool? Note I rollbacked the other editors edit as they removed a reference, which is an non-constructive editor to Wikipedia and can be deemed upon as vandalism. Also, if you wish to do that it is best to notify the editor in the appropriate place, which is usually excepted (well, I always do it!). Thanks! --Chip123456 (talk) 16:59, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What looks like happened, is my computer was lagging, and I clicked rollback right after you did- and was attempting to rollback the same thing you were, but before my computer registered the click, it updated. I've had this happen where my computer is lagging with an update, and it freezes for a second, but I've never had it put an action through while frozen. I am so sorry! Nightenbelle (talk) 17:01, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem! I have reverted your revert and explained in the edit summary. --Chip123456 (talk) 17:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

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Question
Odd question, but do you edit fiction? Rather than write, I'm looking at a bunch of people who are listed as readers of Alt History. BenWilson (talk) 18:48, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * yes I have before, and as an English major and former English teacher I have lots of experience as such. But it’s by no means something I do full time anymore. What are you needing? Nightenbelle (talk) 19:52, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Josip Runjanin
I am buffled. Not all the editors agreed, per say. The final sentence is rather vague. Dispute resolution noticeboard  Sadkσ  (talk is cheap)  21:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Sadko So are you saying you don't agree to adding the daughter's statement? I'm sorry- if so, I'll re-open (unclose?) Nightenbelle (talk) 21:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I clearly said that we have a partisan source used and that a note might work. No problem Nightenbelle. Now we have this edit as a result – [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Josip_Runjanin&diff=938387834&oldid=938387041&diffmode=source]  Sadkσ  (talk is cheap)  21:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am as surpriced as Sadko. I do not see that the daughter's statement is even the central point in the discussion, and I certainly do not see any consensus for adding it. Mikola22 is the only one who has mentioned her in the discussion. --T*U (talk) 21:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

I am home and don’t have access to a computer. I will reopen tomorrow to continue moving towards a compromise. I’m sorry for my quick action Nightenbelle (talk) 00:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Okay the discussion is reopened. Thank God for smartphones. Nightenbelle (talk) 00:25, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Conspiracy theories_related_to_the_Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
Thank you, Nightenbelle, for your prompt response to my Dispute Resolution request, on the DR talk page. However, the reasons given for immediately closing the discussion are not altogether clear, and the apparently chief specific reason given, that I had not informed the other editor in the dispute, is incorrect. I did indeed inform the other editor in the dispute, Guy, of the filing of a DR appeal. I do not know how you could have missed that. I wrote the notice not only on the Talk Page of the article itself, evoking a query from another editor on the page and a response by Guy himself, so it really is there, and I also posted a notice of it on Guy's own User Talk Page, evoking some exchanges there. Had you checked those locations? You also wrote that there seemed to be no specific edit that needed an adjudication. That is not correct either (e.g., there was discussion relating to the title itself and its wording, which I had criticised, the use of pejorative adjectives by Guy for the viewpoints Guy disliked, such as "baseless," and "insane," both in the article itself and the Talk Page, Guy's rejections of articles by John Solomon and of OAN as a legitimate source, and other items), but the key issue was not any one edit but the non-NPOV slant of the entire article, so that in my opinion the whole thing needed a rewrite. However, you also wrote in your comment that DR might not be the best forum for this discussion. That may well be the case. Where should I go to get someone with the authority to assess the NPOV or POV nature of an entire article and, if it is not satisfactory, get it rewritten or deleted? What would be the best forum for this sort of request? 122.111.212.235 (talk) 11:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Nightenbelle, the dispute is actually quite simple. The IP keeps proposing changes to content based on sources Wikipedia does not consider reliable, or attempting to "balance" very high quality sources such as the Washington Post with dross such as One America News Network. I've pointed him to WP:RSN if he wants to check for himself. Guy (help!) 14:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Nightenbelle, perhaps you should simply re-open the Dispute Resolution forum you closed. As I have shown, the reasons given for closing it were simply incorrect. Since the entire article is loaded with bias, though, and that is the real problem unlike what Guy has written, perhaps there is a forum better suited to general editorial consideration of the article as a whole, and its acceptability under Wikipedia guidelines? 122.111.212.235 (talk) 23:17, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


 * ping\122.111.212.235 and JzG I'm sorry, let me be more clear. I understand the issue, both the political one and the WP:NPOV and neither of them have anything to do with why I closed the DRN, nor will explaining them convince me to re-open it. If you want a Dispute to be mediated by a DRN Volunteer you need to file it correctly. This isn't a bueurocratic power trip, but all involved editors- every, singly, one of them, must be listed and then notified on their individual talk pages. This ensures that everyone involved has the opportunity to participate and say their piece. The filing editor did neither of these things. So either of you is welcome to open a new Dispute, and as long as it is done correctly, a volunteer will be along shortly- not me though, because I wouldn't touch any American contemporary political dispute with a ten foot pole- and this, right here, is why. I clearly stated my reasons for closing the dispute which were procedural- not content related, and neither of you read them, you made assumptions and then demanded I undo my actions based on your assumptions of my misunderstanding. Nightenbelle (talk) 22:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * And for the record- I noticed you notified 1 person, but there were MANY more than that involved with the dispute. You either involve everyone who is involved with the discussion, or don't involve anyone. You can't just cherry pick who gets to have an opinion on WP. I did check Guy's TP. I checked every link you posted. I didn't miss anything. YOU however did. YOU missed that other people were involved. So if you want to re-open it, please be inclusive of every person in that discussion who had an opinion on the "issue" you are requesting mediation on, not just the one user you have a personal issue with. Nightenbelle (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


 * If you wouldn't touch any politically charged article with a ten-foot pole, then perhaps you should not have acted so precipitously and harshly to shut the whole thing down, but should have left it to another more patient and/or neutral administrator to assess the issues and make a judgment on it. Actually, the editor I was in on-going dispute with was just one person. That one person with whom I almost solely interacted happened apparently to be the chief author of the problematic article, namely, Guy. No others interposed any comments, aside from BullRangifer who entered a comment on the article's Talk Page after I notified Guy on that page of my DR appeal. However, BullRangifer did not engage with the discussion, only advising me about the process. He obviously knew of the dispute, since he commmented on the process itself. He therefore didn't need notification. I hadn't made a critical comment on anything he had written earlier, nor he on my comments, so this was the first communication between us. When I go back to the article Talk Page, though, I do see that I had made one brief response to Koncord (not answered), and two or so other editors had recently visited the talk page and made other critical comments along the lines of my complaint elsewhere in the discussion that I could have cited if I had understood that that was necessary. But rather than complain further now about the muddled and clouded phrasing of your explanation on the DR page when closing the whole request, I would appreciate clearer advice about where I should appeal this question. However, I do labor under several disadvantages in this matter: I am not experienced in Wikipedia ways and processes; I do not want to waste my time and I have little time to devote to this anyway; I am not left-wing, and it is clear that if emphatically and self-confessedly highly politicized leftist editors have found a way to use NPOV to shut down NPOV, that write up and then manage specific articles on political affairs, even allowing themselves extremist slurs and demeaning adjectives when mentioning non-leftist persons, sources and evidence, and thereby turning articles into one-sided propaganda, the sheer number of such articles written and monitored by such editors already indicates that this must be OK with Wikipedia and no protest is likely to go far. It appears that the malaise is systemic. 122.111.212.235 (talk) 07:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Every editor involved gets a say- not just the one you cherry-picked to deal with- and there are dozens of editors arguing on the talk page over the neutrality of that article. You can not like my answer all you want, but its the way DRN works. Every. Involved. Editor. And we don't mediate content disputes anyway. So I should have closed it for two reasons instead of just picking one. Just because I don't want to mediate political non-sense does not mean I'm partial or impatient- it means I know my limits on time and availability. I'm on WP for maaaaaaybe 1-2 hours a day 5 days a week. An argument about politics cannot be handled in that time. Not to mention the tendency of those involved to lash out when they don't get their way. Like you have been doing on my talk page for how long now? You don't even know my political stance. You don't know which side I'm on or my opinion about that or any other Trump related article. You have assumed you are arguing with someone on "the other side" when in truth- you have no idea. But thank you. So much. I love being harassed for enforcing policy. Now, have a nice day and please find someone else to harass.You brought a DRN problem to my talk page, made assumptions and were generally condescending and rude, you don't get to question my ability to do the job I voluntarily do in spare time as an attempt to discredit me. You get to apologize and re-file correctly or go away.Nightenbelle (talk) 16:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you!!!Nightenbelle (talk) 15:30, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Behavioural genetics
For my edification, regarding [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard&curid=31934316&diff=940119105&oldid=940114929#Behavioural_genetics this edit], can you please point me to the place where it is stated that a GA is perfect and cannot be tagged for further improvement? In addition, did you take into account the fact that I have provided sources for my assertion that the article is unbalanced, whereas the counter argument is "it passed GA" and "when people talk about BG they mean human BG", without anything other to support this than the editor's opinion? Thanks for your clarifications! --Randykitty (talk) 17:19, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Randykitty As I said in the closing notes. Please tag specific sections for improvement needed, do not keep relisting to have someone review the GA status. Specific suggestions would be more helpful than a general "this article sucks" which is the equivalent of what you have done. No one said it was perfect, but we are asking you to follow accepted practices and tag specific improvements or work on the article yourself rather than request repeated unnecessary administrative intervention when you disagree with consensus. If you put all the time you have spent fighting the GA into fixing the problems you see- the article would be fixed. DRN is not needed when consensus has been reached and one editor disagrees. Nightenbelle (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I disagree. I have given quite some more detail than "this article sucks". I have argued that it is unbalanced and supported that with sources. I have not relisted it for GR review, so I really wonder where your remark that I should not "keep relisting [it] to have someone review the GA status" comes from. Consensus is 2 editors who say that the tag should go because the article passed GA (and no other arguments or sources), 1 editor who says that it should go to GAR if the tag is justified and that if it isn't, the tag should be removed (duh...), and 1 editor (me) who argues that the article is unbalanced and documents that with sources. That sounds far from a clear consensus to me. (Remember WP:NOTAVOTE?) As for fixing the article, I have some very strong personal reasons why I should not edit this article more than is necessary (hope you can WP:AGF on that). --Randykitty (talk) 18:07, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Randykitty The consensus I was referring to was reached when it passed GA the first time and was confirmed the second. I will AGF, but if you can't edit the article, and it seems like you are personally attached to it and may need to step away. Just my opinion- not a requirement/formal statement. Regardless, twice now a group has deemed this article to meet GA status, nothing significant has changed/been removed. So that consensus stands. Please mark specific things you would like to see improved and not just a general request for a third review until/unless the article has significant changes for the worse. Nightenbelle (talk) 18:36, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Some background for the discussion introduced yesterday at DRN (re. Wuhan data template)
Good afternoon Nightenbelle! I have recently come back to monitoring the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard (I used to assist there years ago and am trying to become active again), so I'm commenting on your talk page not as a participant in the dispute but as a fellow volunteer at DRN. I noticed that you recently assigned yourself to the Wuhan coronavirus data template discussion at DRN and are waiting for the dispute summaries by the involved editors. I'm not going to jump into that dispute (unless you would like my help, of course), but I did do a bit of looking into it and found something you may find helpful as you moderate the discussion. Apparently the issue at hand (at least as filed) is already addressed in the Manual of Style at MOS:NC-CN. The issue obviously appears a bit more complex than that, but it might be worth pointing the involved editors in that direction as they may not have known about it, depending on how their opening statements are. Regards, Sleddog116 (talk) 17:23, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sleddog116 Thank you, They are actually arguing how to apply MOS:NC-CN on the talk page- editors see several applicable reasons for China, and mainland China- and one wants to know in which province is the "state" of Mainland China.... so they are already debating which 3 circumstances apply. I did just notice only 1 of the 3 editors tagged were notified, so I'm tempted to close it on those grounds anyway. Nightenbelle (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Help
What advise me to request mediation in the discussion?

The fact of opting for interference by third parties falls to conflicts caused in another Wikipedia, I do not feel confident in discussing with those involved and not even willing. I am looking for alternative solutions, thank you and greetings. Edmond Dantès  d'un message? 22:05, 18 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Conde Edmond Dantès Well as I said on the DRN- you can refile correctly there. Unfortunately, your sources on the subjects talk page are pretty much unacceptable by Wikipedia policy WP:RS. So I would find some appropriate sources then try to discuss on the subject's talk page. And if that doesn't work- then re-open a Dispute Resolution request and follow the directions there. Nightenbelle (talk) 15:16, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The sources I added in the article are from books by trusted Brazilian authors, mainly Prandi. The fact that the focus of the article is present in the Brazilian religion Candomblé, makes the present spelling an information to appear in the article.
 * I would like to know why the sources are not "reliable" and the reason for excluding only the spelling, as I used similar sources, including the same author, to reference the rest of the content. Edmond Dantès  d'un message? 01:58, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * If you want to know more about why sources are unreliable, and the policy isn't clear enough, I suggest you head over to the WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Nightenbelle (talk) 14:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * If you want to know more about why sources are unreliable, and the policy isn't clear enough, I suggest you head over to the WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Nightenbelle (talk) 14:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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I was about to ask if this was a one-against-many dispute before you volunteered to mediate. If it is a one-against-many, then it would be good if you can help them compromise, but it might be more appropriate for the one editor to use a Request for Comments, which is a way for the community to tell them that the community thinks they are in a minority. Thank you. I suggest that you let them answer, and be ready to go to RFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:27, 20 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the advice- I will be ready :-) Nightenbelle (talk) 20:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

HI!
Hi, can you help me set up a dispute resolution request here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard)? Edion Petriti (talk) 12:30, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Literally all you have to do is click open dispute and answer the questions. Nightenbelle (talk) 14:24, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for pointing to me where I should ask for help! Now I need to read in the WP:RFC, about how to do it. Gre regiment (talk)

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