User talk:Nihiltres/Archive-27

Orange Recordings Deletion
Hi Nihiltres,

I am wanting to discuss the deletion of our page - Orange Recordings. We have been an established creative community for over 13 years and there are many of our artist here on Wikipedia. We are just trying to link everyone together to get more updated information about these artists and the bands.

Some of them include:

The Studdogs The Cells White Hassle Chris Ballew of The Presidents of The United States of America Marcellus Hall

and many more.

How can we create this page and not be deleted? As we need the page active to update our artists information.

Thanks Ron Oraange (talk) 07:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll give a full response to you in a few hours—it is currently around 2:30 AM in my local time and I need some sleep. In the meantime, some useful links that I can still point you to while tired are: WP:V, WP:N, and WP:MUSIC in that order, and WP:YFA, WP:NPOV and perhaps WP:COI for good measure. These are shortcuts to some Wikipedia policies and guidelines that explain some of the ideas that I'll refer to in explaining my actions more fully later. Good night, { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 07:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm back. I deleted Orange Recordings under speedy deletion criterion G11, which is "blatant advertising". I did this because the page was openly promotional about your organization: phrases like "the flavors that so courageously bellow from Orange Recordings" or "Orange artists instantly lead themselves into the annals of history" simply don't mesh with Wikipedia's policy of neutral point of view. If the page was to be re-added to Wikipedia, it would have to be rewritten in such a way as to present everything objectively so as to let the reader decide on their own the merits of your organization. That it is your organization in particular is another problem: you have a conflict of interest with the writing of the article. Now, this doesn't mean that you can't contribute to the improvement (or even creation) of the article, but it does mean that you should tread carefully so as to avoid the impression of impropriety. In particular, you should make sure that claims you make are verifiable—specifically, they should reference reliable, third-party sources. The help page Your first article might be useful. If you have more questions, please feel free to ask. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 19:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

ChinaCache
I put up independent references and did not promote any product or service. Please explain why this was a blatant advertisement as opposed to Akamai, limelight or CDNetworks?ThanksFlea007 (talk) 23:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The argument of comparison with other articles is recognized as invalidI deleted the ChinaCache article essentially because the article used language which was openly promotional of the company. Feel free to start again, or I can also give you the content of the deleted article to work on… { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 15:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Maria Teresa Fumarola Ligorio
Regarding the below article, I am requesting that you re-create the article. No one was notified of the PROD and, even if this might not stand alone, the material could have been merged to List of Italian supercentenarians.

00:35, 16 January 2009 Nihiltres (Talk | contribs) deleted "Maria Teresa Fumarola Ligorio" ‎ (Expired PROD, concern was: No evidence of non-trivial coverage in multiple, reliable sources that would satisfy WP:N or allow a full, neutral biography to be written about this individual. Tagged for notability and re)

Ryoung 122 06:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll undelete it: I also thought the case for deletion was somewhat weak for this article, though it was certainly valid. It'd probably be best merged into the list of supercentenarians you mentioned, and you can then PROD it again, I suppose. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 15:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] Done — { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 15:32, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I would have notified the original author, but it was a dynamic IP. I think it's equal courtesy, however, to notify the person who left the PROD originally that you've undeleted the article after you've deleted it so that further action can be taken if necessary. I do watch my own PRODs, but not after they have already been deleted... Cheers, CP 20:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * True. My apologies; I don't often undelete PRODs. I'll try to remember that for the future. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 20:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Harris Smith
Hi, I created Harris Smith as a redirect, but you speedy deleted it under CSD A7 which does not apply to redirects. Did someone change it into an article? Can you restore the redirect? Thanks, Mike R (talk) 16:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure—I've undeleted the article and reverted to the redirect version. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 17:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Nitro Circus
As I was going to create a new page for this TV show, I noticed it was previously deleted and the reason given was blatant advertisement. I'm hoping we might be able to discuss this, seeing as though I have references for this show, that was slated to premier last night and is replaying all this week on mtv and mtv2. your response to this would be greatly appreciated. The ref for this show can be found here. Thanks in advance and as always CHEERS!--EmperorofPeopleEverywhere (talk) 20:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Go ahead and recreate the article: there's no prejudice against a new article on the same subject—just remember to stick to neutral point of view and you'll be fine. :) { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 21:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Shall do and please feel free to critique and make mention of anything that needs to be changed. I'm sure more detail will come, but for now its just beginning you know..thanks though and cheers --EmperorofPeopleEverywhere (talk) 21:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Navilyst Medical deletion
I was curious how to modify the Navilyst Medical page that was deleted to avoid further deletion. There are numerous company pages such as: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hologic so I'm curious as to how to accomplish posting such a page for Navilyst Medical. Navilystmedical (talk) 22:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all, given your username, you need to read about Wikipedia's guideline on conflicts of interest: generally you shouldn't be creating articles about an organization with which you are affiliated. If you're sure that you want to proceed, I would recommend reading Your first article to get a sense of what we're looking for. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 14:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

paranspringnote
Hi~ I want to talk to deletion of my article "Ahnlab". You deldeted it for advertisement but i'm not think so. Why did you think my article was advertisement?


 * I thought that your article was promotional because it contained promotional phrases like "has established […] as the industry-standard [sic]". Other factors, like linking repeatedly to the company website, also indicated to me that the article was promotional. Please read about Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. { { Nihiltres  | talk | log } } 14:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for answer. Then, How about Symantec or INCA Internet? Those article were not ad?


 * They don't appear to be too bad (they're not perfect), but they tend to cite their sources, which can justify some statements, for example of Symantec that it "is one of the ten largest software companies in the world". I must warn you away from an easy trap, though: each article is evaluated individually. If a decision is made to delete or keep one article, that does not necessarily imply that another, similar page should be categorically deleted. The existence of other, similar articles is recognized as an invalid argument in deletion discussions. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 16:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Radiant Logic
Section restored from archives. Hi Nihiltres, is there anyway you can undelete the page Radiant Logic Inc so that I can edit it so it makes a better fit for wikipedia. Heyeppy (talk) 16:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I undeleted the page and moved it to User:Heyeppy/Radiant Logic, Inc. for you. You can work on it there, and then move it back once you're done. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 18:20, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me get my page in order. I was wondering how to change the title from Radiant Logic, Inc. to just Radiant Logic?--Heyeppy (talk) 17:26, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I was looking at the article I wrote and it was marked for deletion again. The comment said it wasn't written well or in an encyclopedic way. When writing this I tried to model other similar posts, and am not sure what it is missing or where it needs editing. The person who marked it for deletion didn't post his name, so I don't know how to ask him. I don't want to just remove it, because I want to fix the problem, not prolong it. He also commented that it was hard to understand. I know IT can be complex which is why I included so many links. I can already see some minor edits that someone made to the page and I am trying to find links for them as well, buy I am not the most IT savy person myself, just trying to learn how this wikipedia entry stuff works and experimenting on a tech company. Do you have any recommendations as to how I should change the page Radiant Logic so that it stays up? Thank you for helping me ahead of time. Also just curious how long you have been doing this for, and whether it is volunteer work or paid work. I have a friend who is an english major and is curious on whether you can be a paid editor for wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heyeppy (talk • contribs) 20:43, January 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * The page history for Radiant Logic says that the proposed deletion (PROD) tag was added by Storms991. You can ask him (or her) about those concerns at his (or her) talk page at User talk:Storms991. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 22:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I've been editing since mid-April 2005, on a volunteer basis. There are no paid editing opportunities (the Wikimedia Foundation doesn't have anywhere near a big enough budget for anything like that), but as a hobby it has a level of intellectual stimulation I've not found anywhere else. { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 23:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

User:TornadoRacoon/Vacuum spam
Agreed that User:TornadoRacoon/Vacuum spam was unusual, but the author was vandalizing the Chin article by transcluding his little ad into the top. No idea why he was doing that or why the Chin article, but I figured such a page shouldn't exist in the first place. Doulos Christos (talk) 17:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. Noting that the page was unusual will help me if the user comes to ask me why I deleted the page. :) { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 17:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)