User talk:Nihonjoe/Archive 40

Requesting help
Hi, I was told that you are good with references so I'm asking for help. Would this site be considered a reliable source for List of Case Closed episodes (season 1)? And if not, could you provide a reliable source for the airdates? Thank you. DragonZero (talk) 08:37, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It appears to be reliable based on comparison to Animage. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 09:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I need some help again. I was asked to prove the site to be a reliable source, how would I do so? DragonZero (talk) 07:27, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Where are you being asked? ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Featured list candidates/List of Case Closed episodes (season 1)/archive2. Sorry if this is troublesome. DragonZero (talk) 08:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi again. I've been told that because it is not an official fan site it is not a reliable source. If it really is an unreliable source, could you provide me with Animage sources for the season one episodes? DragonZero (talk) 19:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm checking with other people at WT:ANIME to see if we can deem it a reliable source due to what I've been able to determine. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your help. With this, there probably won't be any more complaints about the reliability of the site.DragonZero (talk) 22:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Question
Hi, Nihonjoe. Are edits like this and this kosher? I thought the "nihongo" templates took care of whatever issues this tag addresses... Either way, looks like to me like just another clean-up box/tag to make articles look bad... Wiki-sanctioned graffiti... Dekkappai (talk) 02:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know if they are sanctioned by the Torah or blessed by a rabbi, but I've reverted them as there isn't really any need for them due to the nihongo template. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:17, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * L'Chaim. Dekkappai (talk) 02:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

This word....
Would "Ja Nai" be considered one word or two? And would both be capitalized or not. The reason I ask is because on this article I have "Ja Nai" separated and capitalized and I like to know which is correct. Thanks. 月 (Moon) と  暁 (Sunrise)  00:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, they are two words, and capitalizing them in a title is fine. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Queen Millennia
Just sending you a message saying that I love the hook, very interesting article! Carpet Crawler message me  08:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Anime-movie studio guy back
Well, after a few months of relative peace, this guy is at it again. , belonging to the range. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 13:46, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but the range you give can not possible cover the IP address you're reporting. Also, the IP hasn't done anything for over 8 hours now, so blocking is not really an option for the IP, especially since there has been no warning of any sort placed on the talk page of the offending IP. If the same IP does it again, let me know. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I did wonder why someone was removing valid companies and replacing with only loosely associated ones Dandy Sephy (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Struck from another IP. WHOIS says range is. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 07:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nausicaa.net
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 * You obviously didn't read any of the references. Nausicaa.net is used as a reference by magazine and online articles, books, newspaper articles, and other online sites. The site has been the most respected source of online Studio Ghibli information for over 12 years. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:42, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Up for some translation assistance?
Over at Talk:Town of Evening Calm, Country of Cherry Blossoms, we have some Japanese sources of info we're looking to incorporate into the article. Would you be up for -- and interested in -- working on this? If not, no biggy -- we can find someone else. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Right now, I don't have the time. Sorry. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:10, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Okee-dokee. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:34, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for voting for me


Nihonjoe, Gaia Octavia Agrippa has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 19:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

DYK for Queen Millennia

 * Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

My Signature
Nihonjoe, Thank you for the comment. I am happy to please. The middle (blue) portion of my signature links to my user page. Please give it a try. If you think it would help, maybe I could have the last section (black) that says 'comment' link to my talk page. Let me know what you think. --Preceding unsigned comment 22:43, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected. The entire signature links to my talk page.  Still tell me how I might improve it.  --Preceding unsigned comment  22:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Additional thought: If you are on my talk page and hover over my signature there will be no link (because it would be a loop bask to the same page).  You will find the same is true of your signature on this page.  If that is the issue, I think it is resolved.  Please let me know.  --Preceding unsigned comment  22:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked at the code for your sig and couldn't see any link. If you did something like this, it would work and still look good (just look at the code):
 * -- Preceding unsigned  comment
 * I was originally viewing your sig on a page other than your talk page (I think it was on an RFA). ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks ( In user pref I had no linking in the text string, but the box below checked to use linking; this may have caused an unpredictable result??) -- Preceding unsigned  comment  00:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good. :) ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

European Association for Theoretical Computer Science
European Association of Theoretical Computer Science needs to be moved to European Association for Theoretical Computer Science, not the other way round. Sorry if I used the db-move incorrectly. I tried to say that the redirect page needs to be deleted so that the page can be renamed. — Miym (talk) 21:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! — Miym (talk) 21:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Please delete Levi ozbey
You recently deleted Levi Özbey. Could you also remove Levi ozbey, which redirects to the former? — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 21:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thank You

 * Please let me know if you have any questions. I'll be glad to help you out. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

 * Sure thing. Please let me know if you have any questions. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Apis cerana japonica

 * Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

A little help with Japanese
I came across the following phrase, though I'm not really sure what to make of the first half the sentence since I'm still learning Japanese. It's a comment on a song by Maaya Sakamoto.
 * 09.SONIC BOOM
 * “王道”と言えるようなポップスをたくさん集めたアルバムにしたいという私のイメージに、忠実に応えてくださった市川さん. 市川さんも「僕史上最高傑作」とまで言ってくれました！

Thank you. AngelFire3423 (talk) 14:02, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be something like My image/idea of the "easy road" of collecting a lot of pops albums was faithfully rewarded by Ichikawa-san. Ichikawa-san even called me the "Best Apprentice Ever". ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. AngelFire3423 (talk) 20:02, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

 * If you have any questions or need any help, just let me know. I'll be glad to do what I can. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Please tell me this....
How is adding a completely unrelated TV-series (in this case: Police Academy: The Animated Series) to a lot of articles with apparently no connection constructive? Gsmgm (talk) 18:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * All of the articles to which that was added were connected: each of those voice actors played a part in that series (as the addition showed). From all appearances, it looks like you just went through and rolled-back almost everything done by that IP. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have checked all those edits and the added links, the linked article itself had no mention of the included actors/actresses, and I have watched the mentioned TV-series (last time I watched, all actors/actresses were american no japanese), your claim was warranted in one single occasion out of 9. Please do review those pages and deem if those additions were warranted. For the single good-faith edit labeled as vandalism, I apologise sincerely. Gsmgm (talk) 18:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh do you mean dubbed, but then why were they under the completely false category? Gsmgm (talk) 18:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It sure have solved a lot of quarrel if they were under the correct category, sigh. Gsmgm (talk) 19:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If you look at the Japanese article for the Police Academy series, you will see their names listed there. I don't know why they aren't listed here. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Question about putting Kanji names...
I just wanted to consult to you about something, so sorry if I bothered you.

I'm currently in the process of making a list of episodes for the original Iron Chef using the format of the tables used in the "List of Iron Chef America episodes" article. The future contents are currently in my sandbox and it's still not finished because I'm still thinking of what else to add before moving them to the article space. Since most of the challengers in that show don't have Wikipedia articles, do you think it's a good idea to also add the kanji of the challenger's name upon the first mention of that challenger in the tables? The exception, of course, would be the non-Japanese and non-Chinese challengers. I was thinking of this, but I fear that it may make the tables wider if word wrapping is disabled. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * So don't disable word wrapping. It shouldn't be disabled, anyway, as that messes with the control of the browser over display. Yes, the kanji should be included for anyone who doesn't have an article here. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:31, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

About edit of Kuril Islands‎
It's true that many Japanese think southernmost 4 islands of Kuril are 北方四島 (Northern 4 Islands) which are territory of Japan. However, there is are few Japanese who think all Chishima-rettou (autonym of Kuril islands) is part of Japan. Regarding ALL Chishima as Japan is regarded as making propaganda for FAR-RIGHT or NIHON-KYOUSANTOU (Japanese Communist Party) in Japan.--Kiku b (talk) 12:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless, the category should remain. It doesn't hurt anything, and helps more easily locate the articles through a variety of methods. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

An incorrect category gives viewer an incorrect understanding. If Kimchi is categorized as Japanese cuisine, you will remove that category tag. It isn't correct to categorize Kuril as Archipelagoes of Japan. It is exactly the same as telling lies.--Kiku b (talk) 14:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No more than any other set of disputed islands. As it's verifiably and actively disputed, it should be listed under both countries. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

That is, you say I can replace Archipelagoes of Japanese Category tag with Territorial disputes of Japan Category tag, don't you?--Kiku b (talk) 11:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, they aren't mutually exclusive. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Metacommunication
Just wondering why you deleted the page on metacommunication. I used the word in the article on double bind and it showed red. Of course, what's more urgently needed is a page on logical types to explain hierarchies of communicative levels... --Margaret9mary (talk) 01:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It was requested to be deleted by the author of the page. It was deleted over a month ago. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A special search on the word metacommunication shows it's been used in at least 9 WP articles--and is in Wiktionary. Can that be shown?  Also:  Can you help me set up a page on Logical Types?  I wrote a section on Logical Types in Biology on the Discussion page of Double Bind which perhaps is a place to start.  But I really am NOT a computer geek; starting a new page is beyond my skills.--Margaret9mary (talk) 02:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't have time to start up an article for you. However, I can point you in the right direction. If you have a little time to read some information, following the directions at Your first article will help you. It gives an easy-to-follow guide for creating an article. Please let me know if you have any specific questions. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Shameless thankspam


FlyingToaster Barnstar Hello Nihonjoe! Thank you so much for your support in my  recent RfA , which passed with a tally of 126 / 32 / 5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust.  Flying Toaster 


 * You're welcome. Please let me know if you have any questions. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Category deletion
I deleted Category:Non-article Japan-related pages because it is not actively in use. The category is merely a redirect to Category:NA-Class Japan-related articles. But pages are never added to this category manually; they are always added by using the WikiProject Japan template, which automatically files pages into the correctly-named category, so the redirect does not serve any purpose. You may wish to reconsider your undeletion of the category. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:05, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's there to make sure no one else creates the category for any reason. Having it there doesn't hurt anything, so please leave it alone. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

A tale of swords and souls
I was wondering if you could take a look at my discussion here. I am almost positive that WP:MOS-JA is supporting me there, but I just want to make sure if there was some sort of precedent in the romanization of the word "souru".— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 03:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Eternally retold
The user still has issues.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 03:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I closed the discussion and directed further comments regarding romanization to WT:MOS-JA. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What if he doesn't take the hint?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 03:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * We'll deal with it at that time, then. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Damnit.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 20:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, I saw that. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This is getting extremely out of hand. And its getting really tiresome wading through his verbiage particularly when he picks apart your statement to point out the flaws he sees.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 21:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Category:Japanese voice actor stubs
I reverted your edit to Category:Japanese voice actor stubs. There is no need to add Category:Japanese voice actors, as the Stub Category template contains it and adds it automatically. Also, you removed Category:Japanese actor stubs, which I'm sure was an unfortunate oversight. &bull; Lainagier &bull; talk &bull; 06:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Kutani
Nice work on the Kutani ware article. Ceramics and porcelains, I think, suffer even more than the rest of Japanese arts from a lack of coverage on Wikipedia. I've been meaning for ages to devote some attention to those topics, but frankly they're not really my interest. Thanks for getting the ball rolling or keeping it moving, or whatever. LordAmeth (talk) 19:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. There are a few more to do, though, as you can see by the nav template at the bottom of the articles. Feel free to jump in and help on any of them (even the ones already created could use some work). ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

2nd Sino Japanese War
In its present state the article should have the POV tag restored that blueshirts removed or it should be reverted to the last edit by Arilang1234, which represents the article prior to the contentious edits being made Sherzo (talk) 20:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No, you don't understand how protection works. I protected it in the current state, and it's not going to change until you (all of you) can come to some sort of consensus on what changes need to be made instead of engaging in a revert war. Please go to that talk page and do so, then let me know once consensus has been reached. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No you should either lock it with the POV tag intact or revert it and lock it to the last version before revert war began, instead what you have done is locked a major article in a highly POV form which not only damages the quality of information provided to the reader but also the reputation of this encyclopedia, as Chinese critics who claim western or anti chinese bias can now easily point to this article as an example, which thanks to you no one can remedy. Sherzo (talk) 05:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but please don't tell me how to do my job. I know very well how to handle article protection. I am not reverting it to anything until you guys can pull yourselves together long enough to discuss the issue civilly and come to a consensus. When protection is placed on an article, it is placed leaving the article in the condition it was in at the time. This is very clearly a content dispute. However, I have placed a POV tag as there is obviously a POV dispute going on here. I suggest you go back to the talk page of the article and try to come to a consensus. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi
what's with the protection of the second sino japanese war? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trickster206 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * See the comment I left on that talk page, or read the comments above. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

1980s in Japan
Thanks for the expansion -- that's a good direction for the article to take. I don't have the interest to focus on it, but even if I did, I would not have done as well. Fg2 (talk) 01:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I mostly just took bits and pieces from other articles. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Kanji Help
Hi! I've been trying to improve the article Glass Wings, but I've come across some problems with the kanji. It's written as 羽根玻璃ノ君. , and the romanized version is Hane Garasu no Kimi. The dictionary I'm using doesn't have any kanji for "Garasu", and I always thought it was more of a loan word (not sure, though). Would you mind telling me if it's a correct translation? Oh, and can you tell me the translation into English? Thank you for your help! WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 02:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "Hane Garasu no Kimi" comes from the furigana above the kanji on the cover of the book. As for what the kanji mean, they literally mean (in order): feather, root/head, glass, glass-like, and "you". So "glass wings" is fairly close to a literal meaning, though "Your Glass Wings" would be a better literal translation, IMO. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 14:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Something not about souls
I recently found I had to do a lot of redirect fixing for the article Kamen Rider Hibiki & The Seven War Oni. I still think there's an issue with the translation/transliteration of 戦鬼. Have you come across the word "Senki" before, and would that be a better translation?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 10:33, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, this particular "senki" is a made-up word. "War Oni" is probably as good as you're going to get for an understandable and concise translation. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Template nihongo4
Hi Nihonjoe — Unfortunately nihongo4 is not an exact duplicate of nihongo2. I'd like to help in merging the two templates, but it's probably best to restore nihongo4 until the merge is completed. — Regards. Cs32en 12:23, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's close enough that there is no reason to have both (since nihongo4 uses nihongo2). You're welcome to look into modifying nihongo2 to do anything else it needs to do. All that was in nihongo4 was   . ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's indeed rather close. I'll try to design a template "nihongo-core" that can serve as a basis for all the related templates (similar to Citation core, but not as complicated). Then, the existing templates can be constructed as short-cuts for the core template. Cs32en  18:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you're interested, you can take a look at Nihongo core. Probably there are still a number of bugs in the template. Also, the version for long titles is not yet worked into the template. Let me know what you think about it, things that could be changed or improved. Regards. Cs32en  02:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I recommend talking this over to WT:MOS-JA so more people can review it. There are people there who will likely be more useful than me in this discussion. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Seeking help in presenting thoughts clearly
I write to ask for prospective help. In a sense, I'm only interested laying the foundation for the future. Perhaps this may be construed as taking steps to avert problems might be mitigated by a timely comment or suggestion ...?

ArbCom remedy
Voting is underway at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty/Proposed decision. In part because of "Evidence presented by Caspian blue", the locus of dispute was modified and "evidence in the case has expanded to include other disputes in which Tenmei has been involved." You will be surprised to learn that Nihonjoe has anything at all to do with this so-called "evidence" at "Tenmei's wikihounding and trolling". I don't think this timeless prose is worth struggling to read, but I mention this to explain a bit more of the reasons why I'm reaching out to you specifically.

ArbCom findings of fact included:
 * 3.2.2 Tenmei and dispute resolution. "... many of Tenmei's talkpage posts and submissions during this arbitration case have been very difficult for other editors to understand, to the point that experienced participants in dispute resolution have had difficulty in following them, despite what we accept as Tenmei's good-faith best efforts to assist us in resolving the case."

ArbCom remedies included:
 * 3.3.2 Tenmei and dispute resolution: "Should Tenmei become involved in any further disputes with other editors, whether concerning the content of articles (beyond ordinary day-to-day editing issues) or more formal dispute resolution procedures, he shall seek the assistance of a volunteer mentor or adviser to work with him in maximizing the value of his presentation by assisting him with formulating it in a clear and civil fashion."


 * 3.3.3 Editors advised: "Editors who encounter difficulties in communicating with others on-wiki are advised to seek help from others in presenting their thoughts clearly, particularly when disputes arise or when dispute resolution is sought."

It is clear that ArbCom anticipates future difficulties; and I guess I need to do the same. Arguably, my previous postings on your talk page are congruent with exactly the sort of thing ArbCom wants me to do in future; and I'm willing to invest in learning about how to disagree without being disagreeable.

If you want to discuss this off-wiki, feel free to contact me at tenmei1781@gmail.com. -- Tenmei (talk) 17:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the best way to disagree with people without being disagreeable is to refrain from anything other than presenting facts backed by reliable sources. Don't comment on the editor at all. Comment on the topic at hand, and—when presenting them—try to be as concise as possible. Try to use basic English instead of waxing loquacious. While it's great that you can use words such as that, many people have difficulty understanding your train of thought when they have to look up every other word you use. Sounding educated is wonderful, but if you can't present thoughts in a manner understandable by most of your audience (and most of them aren't English professors), then you'll lose out every time due to your arguments being too difficult for most people to easily understand and follow.


 * It may also help you to outline your thoughts if they are covering a large range within a topic. Keep related comments together, and (again) be as concise as possible and don't use "big words". People are much more likely to read your comments if they are limited to a short paragraph (or two, if you must). Posting huge dissertations is ineffectual.


 * I hope that helps. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy 's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Your RfB
If it were an RfA, I'd be strongly considering closing it. I strongly recommend you withdraw - I'm not sure you're going to learn any more from prolonging it. Up to you. --Dweller (talk) 11:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The only thing I've learned so far is that people look at the appearance of knowledgeability rather than actual knowledge. I believe I've offered plenty in the way of how I would make decisions with the answer to Aitias' question to review those 18 RfX closures, and the various other responses I've given show that I know my way around just fine when it comes to the applicable policies, guidelines, and procedures. It seems, though, that some people just want me to post to WT:RFA a lot in order to somehow "prove" that I know what I'm doing even though that does nothing to prove anything other than knowing how to post to a talk page. I'll let it run for now. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a common oppose at RfB, even at ultimately successful ones. Well, good luck. --Dweller (talk) 12:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Retard alert
Hi, NhJ. Check out User:Michaelfan's mess (along with several anon edits), which I just untangled here. I'd think a perma-block would be in order. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 13:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He's been warned now. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'd have zapped him something fierce, and cussed him out to boot... guess that's why I'll never be an admin :) Dekkappai (talk) 17:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Jacques magazine
Hi there!

You deleted my article on Jacques (magazine) as promotion - I was wondering if you could email me the deleted copy, so I can attempt to produce an article that fits within Wikipedia's guidelines.

Thanks for any help you can give me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roulette1664 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've userfied it at User:Roulette1664/Jacques (magazine). Feel free to work on it there until it is ready. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! That's awesome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roulette1664 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Mailspect
Nihonjoe, the log indicates that you deleted the Mailspect page.

Mailspect is the name of the company that makes a very important technology called, the Message Processing Platform or MPP, and is launching an even more important technology called Email Stream Management. These technologies may be as important as Apache and MySQL in the future -- depending on how many contributors Mailspect is able recruit.

MPP processes millions, if not billions, of emails per day around the world, already. People who use the software are interested in understanding the history of the software. The article that you deleted was not an advertisement but a history of the software and company. The history of many other companies is included in Wikipedia.

I went to the Mailspect entry today to add more information on how the email archive and quarantine markets are segmented as well as to add links to articles and reviews about MPP, but it was gone.

Give us a few weeks to work on the entry and you will not be disappointed. I am a columnist at Linuxworld magazine -- Google Paul Sterne -- and it is important that the software industry have alternatives to Microsoft and other proprietary systems. MPP is one of the open systems that gives people alternative to MSFT.

In addition, I will add references to the antivirus and anti-spam entries, but was hoping to have a link back to a Wikipedia page, not just the Mailspect web site.

Please repost the page and let us work on it.

Paul Sterne —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulsterne (talk • contribs) 19:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I have posted a copy of the page at User:Paulsterne/Mailspect. Please work on it there until it meets the requirements of WP:N, WP:V, and WP:RS. I strongly recommend that you review the information found at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia to make sure the article formatting meets the requirements as well. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Automobile ownership (2nd nomination)
Please userfy this article for me per your close. Colonel Warden (talk) 21:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. You can find it at User:Colonel Warden/Automobile ownership. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Japan-milhist-stub
Redirects to stub templates should still obey stub naming conventions, whicht his one does not. if it turns up as a redlink, then people will know it's not the correct name. This is longstanding practice. Please don't re-create this. Grutness...wha?  04:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, Japan-mil-hist-stub - which you didn't see fit to propose (despite you knowing full well that that is standard practice) is listed at WP:WSS/D. If you intend a stub template to be useful, you really should let those who are likely to be using it know about it - and if you'd proposed it first it would have (a) been at the right name from the outset and (b) not used asbox coding (which creates extra work for WP:WSS, which is why it's not widely used). Next time, propose these things first! Grutness...wha?  04:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It wasn't proposed because it was absolutely clearly needed (I've only begun marking articles with it). The coding was copied from another mil-hist-stub (I forget which one), so don't blame me for the coding. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:17, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you'd proposed it, you'd have saved yourself work by not getting the naming wrong in the first place. You'd have saved me work by not having to fix it, list it as a discovery, and have this conversation with you. You'd have saved yourself even more work, in fact, since other stub sorters would also have been looking for stubs which could be marked with this template. Instead of doing that, however, you made more work for both of us - especially for you. All it would have taken would have been a mention that you thought a speediable stub type would be a good idea. It would have been made and populated far more more than you've been able to do by yourself in half the time, and with no stuff-ups in the naming or coding requiring fixing (when a stub template is made at WP:WSS, we don't rely on copying another template without knowing whether or not someone has rejigged the coding on it - on the subject of which, which template was it you copied it from? It'll need fixing too...) Grutness...wha?  13:04, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You didn't have to "discover" it. I had every intention of listing on the stub page with all the others, but likely got distracted by something else. It's only been in existence for a couple days now. As I said, I'm not sure which one it was from. Is there any way to search by the code used in the stub? Alternately, you can see where it's used by viewing this page: Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Asbox. If you hide transclusions, there are less than 100 templates and other pages using it. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Mifter (talk) 23:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your RFB…
I am sorry to inform you that your RfB did not demonstrate a community consensus for promotion to bureaucrat, and has been closed. Should you wish to volunteer your time and efforts in this venue in the future, may I say, speaking from personal experience, that acting on the constructive criticism you received is likely the best way to demonstrate to the community that you are sufficiently perceptive and receptive for their purposes. I, too, used to lurk a lot at RfA and CHU, but I was not that vocal in either place, which accounts for my lack of success in my first two RfBs. After actively demonstrating, over a suitably long period of time, that I was cognizant of the policies and guidelines, and present at the discussions, my third RfB was, thankfully, successful. Hopefully, your next request, should you choose, will be successful too. -- Avi (talk) 22:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)