User talk:Nihonjoe/Archive 48

Mentorship
Although you've said "no" already, I write again to invite you to join others in becoming a co-mentor for me.

You may be unaware that the "Finding of facts" in the decision at Tang Dynasty explicitly encompasses a message on your talk page -- see User talk:Nihonjoe#Seeking help in presenting thoughts clearly

Your experience in the development of East Asian Wikipedia articles will help remedy a deficit in the composition of a small group. The nascent status of a mentorship committee is clarified in the currently active thread at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification/Tang Dynasty. Hopefully, this mentorship experiment will prove to be more effective and less burdensome than previous wiki-mentoring schemes.

This is a time for hortatory concepts. Do you know this one?
 * "I am only one, but I am one. I can not do everything, but I can do something.
 * I must not fail to do the something that I can do."

If Helen Keller is to believed, then I am not alone in linking these words with Helen Keller. The salient question becomes this: Does precise attribution matter in the context of a teachable moment? No – not always, but often.

What can I say or do to convince you to agree tentatively?

Core policies are the tools at hand; and if you agree to help connect the dots, it could benefit more than me. In this search for a mentor deemed acceptable by ArbCom, I cite Wikipedia:Mentorship#Unintended consequences as a plausible context for discussing what I have in mind.

Your background causes me to share something already explained to another prospective mentor, "Among a prospective mentor's many burdens, the most difficult would involve (a) helping me discern why or when I should apologize or (b) helping me to explain why or when I will not apologize in a wiki-context" -- see diff. May I offer an on-topic writing sample? As you think about agreeing to join a mentorship committee, please review Patrick Lennox Tierney#Showa apology rebuffed.

Are you willing to look into this a bit further? I assume that time constraints will limit your participation; but perhaps you might consider making yourself available as a "non-public mentor", as an advisor to the co-mentors whose questions are likely to be different than mine?

If you please, contact me by e-mail or on my talk page. --Tenmei (talk) 18:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Your offer and comments were more generous than I'd anticipated. As a gesture, may I share a rhetorical question from the Analects of Confucius: "Is it not pleasant to learn with a constant perseverance and application?" --Tenmei (talk) 07:17, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Request For Neutral Assistant
Ok, I will admit. Every article I am planning to post will have some sort of biased comment or mention. But you have to understand my side to this: for 10 years, Pocos Pero Locos has been the only network to promote Chicano Rap. No other radio station is willing to do it (except me, of course). Mainstream ignores it. MTV won't play them. Many of the articles, forum posts and blogs I've read are about how Mexican-Americans have no business in rap, and that they should stick to being low class workers. They need some recognition, especially for the fact that I'm going to help levitate the spirits of this underground niche genre in the years to come. I've already gotten permission from Khool-Aid to proceed writing, but it won't be posted here until she gets the approval. In the meantime, I will be posting the compilation albums the network has released.

What I need from you is help. If you can help me find one or two Wiki users who are unbiased, neutral and resourceful for the articles I have already posted, to review my input and revise the articles so that they fit within Wiki's policy, I would be grateful. My Talk Page has a few reference links ready for use, and they can use them freely under the condition the main Pocos Pero Locos article isn't posted. ElMeroEse (talk) 20:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you have a misunderstanding of how Wikipedia works. Here are some points regarding your post above:
 * Khool-Aid does not have any say (at least no more than any other editor here) in what articles are and are not created or kept on Wikipedia. That decision is made by the editors here.
 * All articles must be neutral in their presentation of information. This is a policy and must be followed. See WP:NPOV for more information.
 * All articles must be about notable subjects. If there are no independent, third-party reliable sources covering the subject of the article, then it will be deleted as not meeting the notability guideline, and thereby failing to meet the verifiability policy as well.
 * Wikipedia does not exist as a promotional or marketing vehicle to give underground musical artists recognition. Please see WP:SPAM for more details.
 * Wikipedia does not republish articles from other places. If they are from reliable sources, we can references them when creating an article here, but we will not and do not republish them.


 * That said, you may be able to find some editors willing to help at WikiProject Music, as well as WikiProject Mexican-Americans and WikiProject Latinos (though these last two are inactive projects, you may find some of their listed participants are willing to help). ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Expat
I want to be one someday. How do I do it? Adult Swim Addict (talk) 08:05, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Go live outside of your home country. Easy as pie. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:07, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Pie sucks. LOL, joking. I'm talkin' 'bout Japan dude. My dream is to marry a beautiful Japanese woman. Is Japan the place to go or should I go to the West Coast? I live in Mizery so I dont know any cute Asian ladies. Adult Swim Addict (talk) 08:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, there are definitely more Japanese living on the West Coast than in Missouri, so moving there would up the odds. You're on your own as far as finding one to marry, though. ^_^ ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha ha that's funlicious. Well Thanks for the help. Dude. Adult Swim Addict (talk) 08:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
DMCer ™  19:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, me again. I've responded on the UAA page. Thanks.— DMCer ™  20:27, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

NerdyScienceDude's UAA contribs.
I've raised concerns on his talk page about him reporting offensive usernames that are extremely old, and I thought you should know. Cheers! The Thing //  Talk  //  Contribs  05:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Macross II TP move
you forgot to merge the talk page. the current version does not have threads from recent years, only the ones from 2005. just a heads up thanks.--Eaglestorm (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Not so much forgot as the page was misplaced. All fixed now, though. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Final discussion for Requests for comment/Biographies of living people
Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:
 * 1) Proposal to Close This RfC
 * 2) Alternate proposal to close this RFC: we don't need a whole new layer of bureaucracy

Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip  03:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/ChildofMidnight/Workshop
Hi Nihonjoe. I think it's only fair that I tell you that I mentioned your name here in my proposals for the ChildofMidnight arbitration case because you closed the RfC. It only states your findings - it's just to give it some context, certainly not suggesting you were in the wrong. If you have issue with it, please let me know and I'll change it around. Kind regards,  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 20:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thanks. :) ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Changing My User Name.
I have decided to change my user name to Calico CatLover (usurped).--User:Brianhardy44 (14:24) (PST)

Politics, Religion and Her (song)
Thought you might like to weigh in here since you closed the afd on this article. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, could you come and explain your closing note. It can be read two ways. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thread's been open six days now with overwhelming consensus to redirect. Xeno seems pretty busy, so I'll ask you what you think of the situation. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 23:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I participated, so I shouldn't close the discussion. Feel free to post a request at WP:AN. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Crat mailing list
Just spotted you'd sent a message to the list. It was stuck because you're not a member of it. If you'd like to join, I'll approve you. --Dweller (talk) 10:26, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I was a member, and have sent messages to and received messages from it before with no problem. Did the server hiccup and lose me? (and yes, please add me again) ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:29, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Dunno. Did you use a different email address than usual? --Dweller (talk) 10:32, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If the email address begins with "s", then yes. If it begins with "n", then no, it's the same one I use for everything related to Wikipedia. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Nominations for the March 2010 Military history Project Coordinator elections now open!
The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process has started; to elect the coordinators to serve for the next six months. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 (UTC) on 8 March 2010! More information on coordinatorship may be found on the coordinator academy course and in the responsibilities section on the coordinator page. This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 22:06, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Technogreek43
Just wanted to inform you he left. He's an off-wiki friend of mine who convinced me to join. I just wanted to tell you that since you helped him out a few weeks ago. Adult Swim Addict (talk) 04:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Shinji Nagashima
Your name is the only one in the talk page's edit history so I'll ask you. I just wanted to get confirmation on the importance rating for Shinji Nagashima It's not immediately obvious from the article that he qualifies as High Importance; but I'm not familiar with his works. -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 06:15, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * He's one of the influential figures for today's manga artists. He worked with Tezuka, is called the "father of shōnen manga"...so, yes, I consider him to be high importance. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, I add him to the list of articles that need work at the biography group. Thank you! -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 01:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Error on BLP
Sorry about the error on the BLP. We have started a spring cleaning in the Martial Arts project WikiProject_Martial_arts/Article_Review and I am venturing into new areas of wiki. I will be more careful. jmcw (talk) 09:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Umizaru
Ciao from Italy Nihonjoe! Can you please write two pages about the Japaneese Tv show "Umizaru Evolution" (11 episododes), and the new movie of this amazing saga, The Last Message: Umizaru ? Thank you in advance --Nicola Romani (talk) 11:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I suggest listing them at Requested articles/Japan. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Unnecessary stuff
It seems he keeps bringing up the ッジ = dji and not ッジ = jji thing. No one has really come to any sort of decision on this.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 07:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Mention at an ArbCom case
Hi Nihonjoe, I figured you should know (if you did not already) that you are being discussed a bit over at Arbitration/Requests/Case/ChildofMidnight/Workshop, specifically in this section. The mention here is not innocuous as another editor has proposed taking you to task somewhat for the manner in which you closed Requests for comment/ChildofMidnight. I do not think a finding like this will pass (personally I quite disagree with it) so you probably don't need to sweat it too much, but obviously you should have been made aware that an action of yours is being discussed before the committee in case you wanted to weigh in. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 02:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've made a few comments scattered throughout the page. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Shūhō Satō
Hi,

Thanks for updating the War Books (Peace) page. Since you seem to be an authority on all things 日本, could you possibly translate a little bit of Japanese on another of the War Books pages?

Is that possible at all?

Thanks, Varlaam (talk) 07:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm curious: what does the title of "List of films based on war books — peace" mean? The "peace" part at the end seems to have no bearing on the rest of the title, and the intro on the page makes to effort to explain it. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I know what you're saying.
 * When I first found the War Books page 1 year ago, it was 30K in size with 100 films, and the page was totally dormant. It was a dormant project of the Novels group. And the content was American, rather than international.
 * It happened to suit my personal interests, so I expanded it from 30K to 900K+.
 * And I had to break it into subpages when it got big.
 * As I was doing my research, I keep finding military films not tied to a war. Peace time military movies. Private Benjamin, sexy girl in the army.
 * I wasn't really happy with the name when I picked it, but it needs to be short, it needs to mesh with the other subpages, etc.
 * I always assumed (incorrectly) that people would reach the subpages through the introductory page, but the intro page receives a tiny number of hits. The organization of the subpages is clearer if you arrive from that direction.
 * There is also a listing of all the subpages at the bottom of the page.
 * I like feedback, so please tell me if you have any other impressions.
 * You are the first person ever to comment on the mysterious "peace / war" title.
 * Varlaam (talk) 15:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and when I say that, I am not saying that there is something wrong with you. I am saying that I am surprised that more people have not commented on the weird title.
 * I don't understand why the page has so few collaborators.
 * I recently started my crime books page, and I am still waiting for somebody, anybody, to add The Godfather.
 * Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 15:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * To clarify it, I moved it to List of films based on war books — peacetime because that title makes more sense. Thanks for explaining what it meant. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You don't rename somebody else's page without asking.
 * I created the page and wrote 100% of it.
 * Right? Varlaam (talk) 18:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I already said, Only one person has ever said a thing about the title. One.
 * So I'm putting it back for now.
 * I'm sorry for any confusion, but you do not own the page. It is not "yours". The title I moved it to is more clear. Just because only one person has ever asked you about the title doesn't mean I'm the only one who has wondered about the title. Most people don't bother looking up the person who created the page to find out. Using "peacetime" instead of "peace" is more clear, and therefore a better title. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * My original question was, Can you help with a little bit of Japanese translation?,
 * not, Let's reimagine all of my page titles on Friday afternoon.
 * Varlaam (talk) 18:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Please don't be rude, and please assume a little good faith on my part. Again, the pages are not yours. As it states on every edit page, "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." This includes the possibility of a page you created being renamed. It's happened to me many times (I've created around 600 articles here). And only ONE of the pages was renamed. All the others have titles which make sense. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * But of course the same thing applies in reverse. 100s of people have looked at the page. 1 has an issue with the title. 1 does not have an issue. The one who does not have an issue is the one who edits the page on a regular basis, having 1) conceived of it, 2) created it, and 3) populated it with data.
 * He is the one who needs to type the title all the time. The other 1 is a first time visitor.
 * While it is true that many WP pages have multiple authors, this page is not one of them.
 * If you wish to make a suggestion, that's fine. I may come around to your way of thinking.
 * And we will let it go for now. I actually have important things to deal with today.
 * Can you help with the Japanese translation problem?
 * Varlaam (talk) 19:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The number of editors on a page is irrelevant. You may not wield total control over every aspect of any page not in your own userspace (and even there, you don't have total control). And you shouldn't need to type the entire page title very often (if at all) if you use bookmarks or another similar method of accessing the page. WP:TITLE indicates that the title should be understandable by itself, without having it explained; the title of this page is not that way.
 * As for the Japanese translation, I'll get to it when I get to it. I'm not going to go out of my way to assist someone who insists the policies and guidelines of the site don't apply to them. I've already translated the relevant portions of Shūhō Satō and created the page for Umizaru (the manga). You'll just need to be patient on the others. I have no idea when I'll be able to get to them. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:15, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Leading Edge

 * Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

talkback nudge
FYI, Bot requests/Archive 34 is waiting for you. tedder (talk) 05:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, replied. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Can you post a pointer to the discussion? Or fire up a new discussion? That'll make the BRFA go slightly better. tedder (talk) 06:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll have to hunt for it. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Another nudge- waiting on you here: Bots/Requests for approval/TedderBot 4. (not watching your page) tedder (talk) 06:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Ivy Page
I unblocked the account as I have had email communications with her in which she indicated her willingness to follow policy. Daniel Case (talk) 19:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Works for me. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Yandere AfD
Hello Nihonjoe. I see you're the nominator of this AfD. I considered trying to close the AfD, but couldn't grasp all the arguments. In my mind, the biggest argument anyone could have against keeping would be WP:Neologism, that it's not a real word. People who said it was a dictionary definition did not impress me. If it really *is* in the Japanese dictionaries, that would be important. In your opinion is this just a made-up thing which is not a word? If it is actually in use as a concept in Japan, and is used in anime, won't the sources be forthcoming eventually? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 21:19, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a Japanese neologism created in the anime & manga subculture in Japan. I don't know that it's in any printed Japanese dictionaries as all mine are over 10 years old. While it may eventually have sources which support a separate article, there are not any such sources currently available. That is why most people in the discussion were recommending redirecting to Glossary of anime and manga. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:07, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That does make sense. When I look at the items in the list at Glossary of anime and manga, I observe that some of the items there are blue-linked, and others are not. My assumption is that most of those words, blue-linked or not, probably exist in Japanese dictionaries. In your opinion, what justifies blue-linking one of the entries there? That is, would you blue-link an entry in Wikipedia if it was not in the Japanese dictionary, but was used in an anime or manga? I.e. if people can supply tities of anime that use the term in question, does that decide the matter? EdJohnston (talk) 22:36, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It makes perfect sense. Unless the word has been discussed in reliable sources, it should not have an article. Whether or not it's used in anime and manga is irrelevant as far as having an article on Wikipedia. Relevant and reliable sources are the important thing. Simply having anime and manga that use the term is not enough, and that's the case here. There are not enough reliable sources for an article to exist independently, and hence it should be deleted or redirected (the latter is the best choice so people don't keep trying to recreate the article). ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:06, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Rename
Hello, Nihonjoe. A while ago at WP:CHU you completed this request for me:. I followed up with this question:. It has been 2 weeks, but the contributions before January 2008 still have not switched over to the new username. Can you take care of this or point me to the right place. Rgrds. (dynamic IP) --207.206.137.7 (talk) 05:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It hasn't transferred them because two days after I changed your username, you recreated it, thus preventing the rest of the edits from being moved. There's nothing I, or anyone else can do now, to merge the edits on the two accounts. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Kiwi Commons
Hi, Nihonjoe.

The account will be used by the one person in charge of social media communications, it is understood that promotion of the company is strictly prohibited and will be stopped immediately. Lastly, the contribution to the general encyclopedia will be done. Kiwi Commons: An expert in youth internet safety resources for parents and teachers. 15:30, 15 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwicommons (talk • contribs)

Rude? Insulting?
Hi,

Are you really trying to be that way?

You know who I am. You know which pages I wrote. You know I'm friendly.

If you have a question about one of my pages, just ask me.

It's not difficult.

Varlaam (talk) 13:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you think we can improve something, then we can work on it together.
 * Why are trying to make WP confrontational and adversarial?
 * I want WP to be collaborative.
 * Varlaam (talk) 14:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * To be fair Varlaam (I hope you don't mind me chiming in Nihonjoe), you don't exactly respond to many concerns. You refused to answer my message on your talkpage yesterday and seem to be reluctant to join in various discussions about your edits.-- Beloved Freak  14:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Belovedfreak. I've tried to work with you on this issue, but all you do is revert any changes made (good changes, too) and insist that any changes made to your articles should be discussed first. You're the one making things confrontational and adversarial here by insisting that all changes have to be cleared through you first (which is an absurd idea, btw). I'm sure you're a great guy, but you need to deal with your ownership issues. You don't own the articles you started, and people don't need to clear everything through you before making changes which bring those articles in-line with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. While the articles contain many good things, they are full of original research and other garbage which doesn't belong here. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

A quick thanks...
...for that prompt namechange, PristineMerchandise → DinhoGauch10. I was helping the user on IRC; getting the name fixed so quickly really helps keep new users 'on-board'. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/MichaelQSchmidt
Anomaly: As of 16:00 March 12 the candidate had 95% support and looked like an ideal candidate. At that time a very large number of people descended upon the RfA. Virtually all were oppose. Within a few hours Schmidt was a failed candidate. Oppose reasons were as follows:

The candidate has Of course such a candidate should never be an Admin if everything is on the up and up. Could you please check to see if this RfA "is on the Up and Up" - Ret.Prof (talk) 13:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) "porn issues"
 * 2) "questionable judgment"
 * 3) committed "sock puppet offenses"
 * 4) "spam links"
 * 5) "a serious misunderstanding of the coriest of all our core principles"
 * 6) "a fundamental misunderstanding of BLP policy"
 * 7) a "vested interest in protecting self-promoters"
 * 8) is  "powerfully vested in a rather strange ideology"
 * 9) is  "hostile to standards that would lead to accurate, verifiable and strong encyclopedic content"
 * 10) did improperly conspire re "offline coordination for the early supports"
 * 11) is " a nudist version of MBisanz"
 * 12) is an "Extreme inclusionist"
 * 13) is  "an inclusionist who will dismiss (or seriously contort) policy"
 * 14) goes around "harassing and making inappropriate judgements".
 * 15) reliance on wikilawyering to subvert rules
 * 16) "candidate was way too quick to offer pictures of himself, including nudes",
 * 17) "no one specific thing - just too many situations"


 * The first Oppose-- an editor who loudly bragged he would use his position to stop "extreme inclusionism" as soon as he became an Admin-- throws in the "porn" bomb, and then all the Opposers fell all over themselves. Looks suspiciously like baseless character-assassination of an excellent candidate who, a large, organized group feels, won't delete enough... or, more accurately, will stand in the way of their efforts to delete more. But what else is new ;) Dekkappai (talk) 14:47, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you have concerns, I recommend bringing them up on the talk page of the discussion, then making a note of it at the top of the discussion area on the main page of the RfA. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * That's actually a fairly normal progress for a controversial RFA. The supporters get in first en masse, the opposers get in second in a similar fashion, and then the few days thereafter determines the result, with some people changing their votes between Support, Oppose and Neutral. What I believe is the reason for this is that the Supporters of course know first about the RfA through either watching the talk page of the editor concerned, that of the nominator, or related discussions. The Opposers first find out shortly after the RfA is launched, and others find out through their talk pages over the next 12-16 hours (keep in mind in some cases there's also timezone issues as the three major locations of US/Canada, Europe and East Asia/Australia/NZ are on almost mutually exclusive TZs). Then word of mouth spreads (especially if it has attracted a lot of interest) and people come to hear of it and dirft in accordingly. I don't have any major problem with it as long as both Supporters and Opposers are actually viewing the user's work and not simply forming an opinion based on the judgement of others or based on some sort of sense of allegiance or antipathy. Orderinchaos 02:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, comments?
I saw you removed the speedy deletion request for the article i made. I've added a few references. As the article stands now, do you think it meets the criteria for notability? Thanks for your help/input.  Ra f ael  06:40, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The closest thing you have to a reliable source is the interview on gotfrag, though I'm not sure if that site would qualify under the guidelines for reliable sources. If you can find any magazine coverage of the company, especially industry magazines such as Electronic Gaming Monthly and the like, that would be best. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, since a lot of the article concerns public opinion, how come forum threads would not be reliable? I mean I understand that a forum thread should never really be taken as a "reliable source" but if we are trying to verify the opinion of the public then a forum thread should get that done right?  Ra f ael  06:57, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Forum threads can't be used as a source, in general, for anything, and any exceptions must be made on a case-by-case basis. See the Reliable sources/Noticeboard for doing that. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Your tag removals
Why did you remove the "db-banned" tags from File:Cobinnaked.jpg, File:Corbinupclosecover.jpg, File:Hsm2 gabriella.JPG, File:Hsm2 sharpay.JPG, File:High-School-Musical-3-movie-06.jpg, and File:CorbinDeal WithIt.jpg, describing them as "extra"? They were produced in violation of a block, and meet csd-g5. Since they were produced in violation of a block, it's important that they be removed immediately, prior to any efforts to repair or salvage their use.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Because those tags are for pages, not images. The images were already tagged for deletion, as well, so they will be deleted anyway. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * G5 is named G5 because it is general: from WP:CSD's description of the G class: "These apply to all namespaces (and so apply to articles, redirects, user pages, talk pages, files, etc):" (emphasis added). Further, the goal is not to delete them in seven days, the goal is to delete them immediately, before material contributed by a banned user is incorporated into any Wikipedia articles.&mdash;Kww(talk) 19:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Then they need to change the wording of the notices as it clearly states "this page" rather than "this page or file". The files have now been deleted. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd agree there. Unfortunately, that phrase is in a protected file (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-meta), so I can't fix it myself. Thanks for processing them.&mdash;Kww(talk) 19:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've modified it to make it recognize if it's being used on a file. Hopefully that should work. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:Country data SCT
Thanks, I didn't know about that, I was wondering what to use. Woogee (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. It can be sometimes confusing with all the various tags which can be used. I'm sure everyone (including me!) gets confused at one time or another. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Ask Dr. Rin! episodes
I appreciate your recent assistance. Much gratitude. I am working on keeping The »Ask Dr.Rin!« episode summary from being deleted. --Dairi no Kenkyo (talk) 20:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. I've placed the remaining episodes you had on that page into the proper format. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:45, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:Eating Emma
Hey, I'm new to editing and creating articles, so please back off of my Eating Emma page unless you want to do it for me. Thanks. RawRock91 (talk) 16:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The article does not meet any of the requirements for keeping it, so I recommend working on it in your userspace until it does. Perhaps at User:Rawrock91/Eating Emma. If you want me to restore the article to there, I'm happy to do so, but do not keep recreating the article in mainspace or you may lose your editing privileges. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've moved the article to User:Rawrock91/Eating Emma so you can work on it until it meets the requirements for inclusion. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Lists and copyrights
Hi Nihonjoe, I just noticed you declined the speedy request for List of rulers of Kasongo Luunda (Yaka). First, there was a similar list speedied on Friday, List of rulers of Kuba, you might want to recreate this list. I was the one tagging the Kuba list, and both creator User:JohnArmagh and I had put our reasons forward on Talk:List of rulers of Kuba (I assume as admin you can read this).

In order for me not to tag wrong things as copyvio, can you please point me to the policy allowing to copy lists? As far as I thought to have understood, copyright-able material is everything that reaches a certain Threshold of originality. As such, List of towns in Sweden cannot be subject to copyright because everyone could assemble such a list with ease. The lists of ancient kings of Africa as discussed here are a different story imo. They are the result of research activity, and they happen to be in list form. I don't think anyone is allowed to plagiarise them, just like List of sequences in the human genome would could be protected by copyright law, if it existed.

Your opinion and response is appreciated. --Pgallert (talk) 08:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * PS: Plagiarism, third last item, seems to be the applicable policy in this case. But this piece of policy does not take into account the possibility of presenting research or original thought in list form. Just imagine someone came forward copying the entire Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus because it is a list! --Pgallert (talk) 08:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Copyvio and plagiarism are not necessarily the same thing, though they can overlap. You were tagging the list as a copyvio, when it was just a list of rulers, something which could be obtained through any number of sources. As such a list does not require any original content or thought to create, it is not covered by copyright. As that page states, however, you should always list your sources for any such lists so as to avoid plagiarism. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 09:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * (Correction: I did not tag the Kasongo Luunda list.) Would you have the knowledge to write who ruled Kasongo Luunda 200 years ago? No, this list does require original thought. There are no government records whatsoever, and the researcher (who explicitly put the material under copyright) likely spent months digging through private letters and missionary diaries to assemble this list. You might want to look at an opinion exactly opposite to yours here. --Pgallert (talk) 12:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Concerning ccpproductions
hello, my name is Clint. You recently banned my page called ccpproductions claiming i was advertising a product or company. The Adventures of Douchebag Man is a story I wrote in school to help me and my friends get through the day. I am still in high school. The ccpproductions is not a business, and The Adventures of Douchebag man is not a product. I thought it would be cool to have a DBM wiki page up and running for my friends. I know yall probobly get a lot of people trying to advertise stuff on here and that probobly gets stressful, but I am not one of those people. Im just a kid trying to make a DBM wiki page. Thank you for your time and please reply. Have a good one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clint Charles Project (talk • contribs) 01:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

RE: Changing Username (Dwayneflanders)
No, Dwayne Flanders is a person which is me, what are you talking about. I understand i tried to create an article about myself but that has nothing to do with username changing.  Dwayneflanders (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Is something wrong?
Many salutations!!! It seems that you have seen my recent handiwork here and I am very pleased that you have been quite polite with your appraisal.

Still, I am at a loss for how a personal commentary in the edit summary could trouble anybody since the editing history is behind the scenes and has limited utility to the casual visitor who reads our handiwork. Destructive speech that insults people is one thing that should be (and is in many circles) frowned on; still, do you not think that a remark commending something positive that a character does as part of the edit summary documentation should be looked at a little differently? Is there another motive for the injunction against my comments in the edit summary other than personal aversion?

Dairi no Kenkyo (talk) 02:57, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem is that the commentary is not useful in any way. Wikipedia is not here for people to make personal commentary about what happens in a particular article. The edit summary is specifically to tell other editors what you did in a particular edit (hence "edit summary"). You can see more at Help:Edit summary. Hope that helps. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Editing advice
日本穣 -- Addressing the specifics of this particular situation may not be the best use of your time; however, I want to keep you in the loop so that you will be well informed whenever you might choose to play an active role.

You may not know that PMDrive1061 agreed to be a non-public mentor.

With regret, I have to report that today's attempt to reach out for help was unclear:
 * A. I intended to ask for comments here about the use of format as a device (a) to focus my comments and (b) to limit the number of words.
 * B. Also, I wanted to invite PMDrive1061 to consider posting a comment at the active ArbCom thread.

Instead, my words were construed as puzzling. I tried to restate my purpose and questions here.

I have asked the others to address context-specific issues. I posed these questions:
 * Can you offer suggestions about what I might have done differently?
 * Can you propose plausible modifications in the formatting or in the wording?

If anyone at ArbCom is monitoring my edits, this small example may help clarify how I expect the mentoring process will work in practice.

In due course, I shall return to editing. Tentatively, I plan to refine this format/parsing technique so that it can become useful when something begins to go wrong in the course of editing.

Do you have any questions? comments? suggestions?

Thank you again for your helpful posting here. --Tenmei (talk) 20:30, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Please notice my revised "2nd try" message at User talk:PMDrive1061 &mdash; only 8 sentences + 2 quotes? It is shorter and thus better?  It seems to me that I've not explained enough. The re-thinking rationale is a variant of less is more; but in this context of initiating a working relationship, I  would have thought that less is simply less.  In other words, less would seem to be too little? Like my "1st try" message, this is also puzzling but in a different way.--Tenmei (talk) 16:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Coordinator elections have opened!
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Requests for adminship/BigDom
We're edit conflicting, so I'm just going to let you finish up. Thanks.--Chaser (talk) 22:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. You're pretty active for someone who's retired. ;) ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, since you participated (even though it wasn't to !vote), you shouldn't be closing it, even if it's a withdrawal. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I have never understood that to be the standard for withdrawn nominations, which are uncontroversial closes. Has there been a change in the last four months?--Chaser (talk) 02:41, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * It's best not to close any issue in which you have participated, no matter how small your contribution to it. This avoids absolutely any question of conflict of interest. While I don't personally have an issue with your closure, there may be others who may view it differently. This, my message. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that's too cautious.--Chaser (talk) 05:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, in this kind of case, I think it's better to err on the side of caution. Then it leaves no doubts. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:26, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Question
are you on right now? You seem to be active over at the username changes and I was wondering if you could review my request.-- Coldplay Expért Let's talk  00:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Email
I have sent you an email. --Rschen7754 14:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

What is the Problem ?
Hello sir,

Recently I created a page about a Microsoft MVP giving all the details about him with proper and credible references about him. This is the link to it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_John

Suddenly a someone named as Bagheera placed a tag, asking for the speedy deletion of my page that I created. I saw you doing justice, so I am in need of your help. You have already helped me once. Also, I am unable to access to the talk page of the person who has placed the speedy deletion tag on the page. I want you to (if possible) go through the page and see it. I think it is perfect with the references I have given and when you are satisfied, please remove that speedy deletion tag from my post as it will be spoiling the page.

Gyandeep Kaushal (talk) 22:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Saoiuq
Think we should file an SPI request? Blanking not just one, but two admins' userspaces--something tells me this isn't a new user. Then again, it might be a 4chan troll ... Blueboy96 17:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. I've hardblocked the account. As far as I know, I haven't done anything to make anyone mad lately. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:27, 20 March 2010 (UTC)