User talk:Nishkid64/Archive 47



RfA
OK - what's the right protocol? Ben MacDuiTalk /  Walk  13:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Regarding this note, I just wanted to let you know that I fucking HATE the whole admin-coaching thing, and am much more willing to oppose when it's involved, but after looking at Mac's coaching page, I thought, maybe I should drop Kurt a note asking his opinion of it (since it's more hypothetical questions and situations rather than an exercise in gaming a request for adminship). Only later did I realize that you also noted the same thing in you initial nomination, but thought better of it and removed. Well, that's about it... nothing to see here. Mahalo. --Ali'i 21:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Admin Coaching
Hi there :), I have been looking for an admin coach for a while now and I just noticed that your student is now in RfA and I was wondering if now that your student is in the RfA stage you would consider taking me on as a student and being my admin coach after your current student's RfA is over :)? Thanks in Advance :) and All the Best, --Mifter (talk) 19:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

RTFM pointers for Flag templates
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Featured article candidates/Boy Scouts of America
Hi. I seek your help. User:Una Smith is being disruptive at this FAC. She even renamed the FA Scouting, which is linked to about 10,000 times, with no discussion (it got moved back). The biggest problems are that she is editing several BSA related articles and, honestly, she doesn't know what she's talking about. She's gone beyond FAC reviewer to arguing over content as an article contributor-some would call that a COI. I'd even had to say she's in WP:REDFLAG zone. Her replies at FAC last night were out of line IMHO. I was wondering if you, as a respected FAC reviewer could offer advice on this situation and/or help improve the article. Thank you. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 10:33, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I know you specialize in politicians, but could you give this a quick copyedit for better prose? Tks. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 13:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Invite

 * Hmmm, I guess it is a short time. I will change it to a month. Thanks for the feedback.--LAA Fan 21:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Houphouët-Boigny
He's certainly on my agenda for some indeterminate point in the future, though I can also put the article on more of a priority footing. Either way, it may be a good idea to first ask User:Editorofthewiki if he's given up before either of us takes over. Biruitorul Talk 05:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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India House FAC
Hello Nishkid, thanks for your comments at the India House FAC, I have addressed the points you raise and left comments on the FAC, please have a look. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 13:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Yorkshirian
This is ready to close, get with Jayvdb so you can help. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 19:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Admin attn needed on a FAC
Nish, Featured article candidates/Insane Clown Posse/archive2 was restarted by the nominator without consulting me. It needs to be moved back to the non-archived FAC file, over the redirect, and the archive2 page maintenance deleted. Can you help? I left a message for Roger Davies as well, in case he gets to it first. Perhaps a word with the nominator? Sandy Georgia (Talk) 02:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind; Pagrashtak got to it already. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 03:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

The User talk:90.192.59.97 you originally blocked
User talk:90.192.59.97, the user you had originally blocked on July 4, 2008, has started doing exactly the same vandalism, deletion of references and violating WP:NPOV which he was doing prior to getting blocked by you. Kindly help.Singh6 (talk) 02:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

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RfA
Many thanks for your careful tuition and for badgering me into standing. You weren't to know but it was a perfect window of opportunity in terms of my availability. All the best. Ben MacDuiTalk /  Walk  20:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Félix Houphouët-Boigny
Not at the moment. When I'm done with 2002 Iran and William Tubman, then I should be working on it. Why do you ask? --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thank you, as there is over 50 kb of material that needs translating--a task not many like to try. Keep up your good work. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:14, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * All right, I expect to begin some work soon. Biruitorul Talk 00:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I'll help a bit too. I wish I could focus on one thing longer. Perhaps I can get high off those duckies Ritalin! --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 01:56, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Make articles not wikidrama
I love that tag. Bearian (talk) 00:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

welcome to the 2000 primary group.
You were one of three other editors that encouraged me to re-write the 2000 Primaries section of the George W. Bush article after I commented that it was a disjointed section about Rove, church, polls and that a more historical and factual summary would be better. So far, there has been no opposition.

If we have a "2000 Primary Group" of us four, perhaps we could propose certain ideas to get a feel of how acceptable they might be to the Wikipedia community? It would just be like first discussing things among friends informally, with no binding decisions, just discussion among rational people (rational, judging from the 2000 Primaries discussion.).

The new question is that there is a "cultural and political image" section in several politicians articles. Some of these are better written than others. However, there's a philosophical problem that hasn't really been addressed much or at all.

viewpoint A: Should there be such a section at all? After all, it's just someone's opinion but that they have written it as a political commentator for a major news source (so it become sort of "reliable source" in Wikipedia terminology). Is it in the George W. Bush article? No. (retort could be "other crap exists").

If it is there, should all the major cultural and political images be reported, at least the most widely reported ones? (for example, Gerald Ford's image of being clumsy was very widely commented on). If not, isn't this subtle POV?

viewpoint B: Or should an encyclopedia have none of this subjective rubbish and only facts?

From a practical standpoint, viewpoint B is less contentious because there would be no debate to what is included after it's decided not to have it. On the other hand, viewpoint A would report on commonly reported images (opinions) of the person which does have some historical and biographical value.

Let me know what you think? Chergles (talk) 15:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Wisdombuddha
Hi. I've received an unblock request by at User talk:Sandstein. So far, nothing indicates that your checkuser-based block of that account was in error, but maybe you would like to comment nonetheless.  Sandstein  20:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Dear Nishkid64, I did email you on June 13th and tell you that the other user accounts were not mine. If you look at the talk page on the articles I was on, I worked with and discussed side by side with the other editors. I was trying to make the article neutral and introduced new content mentioned by the editor Tkalsang. Please reconsider this indefinite ban. It was a misunderstanding as I said in the email and I have not edited since then besides this request. Thank you Wisdombuddha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.193.243 (talk) 21:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

biased article
Almost all the claims made in the article which makes it look like a newspaper brochure are only made based on the primary source.While criticism section is entirely removed unwarrented claims are made based on the articles coming in the newspaper itself.Hence all the claims made on hindu citations should be removedGeorgearunn (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 11:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Clerk tips
After you familiarize yourself with the case, mainly just keep an eye on it. While more tolerance is allowed for civiliity during arb cases, you can't let it get too far. Keep an eye out for privacy and BLP issues too. You also need to answer questions people have or concerns they bring up, which may or may not be asked directly to you. Sometimes we have to block for disruption too. If you have any questions, ask a clerk me or if I'm not around, another clerk or arb as appropriate. Above all else, maintain your neutrality and integrity. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 11:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

FM's block
See User_talk:FeloniousMonk, Requests_for_arbitration/C68-FM-SV/Evidence, User_talk:Dragon695, and Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents. Welcome to the world of clerking difficult arb cases. Keep a close eye on this case. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 15:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Ncmvocalist
Familiarize yourself with this too Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/C68-FM-SV/Workshop. If he persists, we may have to block him. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 21:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * At the time it looked like he was intent on a revert war or something. Sorry I misread the situation. He's cap boxed the thing and I'm okay with that, but Sandy's issues with capboxes in that thread are a good point. Wonder what to do about that. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 17:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

My RFA...
I left a question for you. Best, NonvocalScream (talk) 22:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Keepcases' optional question
Legitimate how? I don't see any indication on MFC's user page that he is a user of hallucinogenic drugs. Keepcases has been warned about his inappropriate questions (see his talk page). – xeno  ( talk ) 19:02, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. – xeno  ( talk ) 19:04, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Translation
If you need help for your French to English, I might be of some helps... Contact me on my french dicussion page... I could do French to basic English translation... Or contact me through IRC. Zil (talk) 20:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for US Battlefield UAVs (2)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of US Battlefield UAVs (2). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Housekeeping request, see the DRV for details.--Father Goose (talk) 01:23, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Your note
Hi Nishkid, I'm not taking part in the workshop (or even looking at it), because when I last checked the evidence page a few weeks ago, it was a mess -- Cla68's diffs didn't even show what he claimed they did, and I'm sure no one has had (or will have) time to check them. So I kind of gave up on it. Best, SlimVirgin  talk| edits 06:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Houphouët-Boigny
Good job. I had trouble finding an accurate title for that section, since my French is aboutr as good as yours. I'm shooting for a FAC by August. What happened to Bit? --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 02:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for telling me, although I think adding after every book ref when the main book was already cited as such may be overdoing it. I'm currently in the process of looking up more English sources for the article. For example, I just found a great NYT article that documented Houphouet-Boigny's funeral that was completely missing from the French version. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 01:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you going to start Leon Mba without me? I was hoping on finishing Boigny first, then we can help with that one. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 11:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Great job on this article. Wizzy&hellip; &#9742; 07:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm going to clean up the article and look for more information. I hope to drive this baby through FAC before Mba. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 11:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and we could work on the lead. Please let me do that. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 11:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nikshid and Editor. Sorry for having been of little use as a translator, but as a non-native, translating from French to English is to me especially hard. On the other side, I've got at least a couple of good English sources on Houphouet-Boigny: Robert Mundt's article "Cote d'Ivoire: continuity and change in a semi-democracy" (contained in Political Reform in Francophone Africa, regarding mostly the evolution of Francophone Africa in the early 1990s but treating all the countries' political histories) and Houphouet's biography in An African Biographical Dictionary by Norbert Brockman. The biggest problem with the sources is represented by the quite heavy use of a highly partisan and polemic source, i. e. Gbagbo's 1984 monograph, a historically very important work as a manifesto of the opposition but hardly a reliable source. Little relevance is given to the 1980, which Mundt places with 1963 and 1990 as one of the three key dates in the evolution of the regime. Well these were a few thoughts on reading the article. Ciao, Aldux (talk) 16:26, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. I was wondering where collaboration for this one began, because the talk is noticeably empty.  Enigma  message 00:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that went fast! All right, I'll give it a read through. Next up: Philibert Tsiranana. Biruitorul Talk 02:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Request Suggestions
I looked you up from Wikiproject India, in which I have enlisted myself. I have been spending some time bringing this article up to par and I have done a lot of work today. Would you take a look into the article and suggest the ways in which it can be expanded (I have a list of mathematical, medical, and engineering related innovations but am really lacking in the machines, astronomy, physics etc. fields) and made better? I want to bring it up to the level of this article and then work on the Science and technology in ancient India (rename it 'History of science and technology in India') article and then perhaps add a section like this one in the India article.

Thanks in advance,South Block (talk) 09:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the helpful suggestions. The list can certainly do with some details; I'll try to provide a background for each bullet point. The reason why I was more direct and went ahead and contacted users on the talk page is that I don't want to see 'Hindutva-vadis' going about adding stuff to project 'the miracle that was India'. Academic scholarship and earthly point of views (not Frawley's chariots) ought to do. Please stay with the article, and if you find time, keep advancing your suggestions as the article is expanded. South Block (talk) 12:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm having some problems modifying a template at the bottom of this page (I can't find where its located !).


 * The India link at the bottom of the page leads to Science and technology in the Republic of India whereas it would be better to follow China's example, written as '(China (People's Republic of China [ Hong Kong · Macau ]'. I want to change the India link to Science and technology in India (Republic of India) but I have no experience in dealing with templates and I can't find the template in question.


 * Please help out if you can spare the time. All the best,


 * South Block (talk) 08:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Samir Kuntar
You seem to defend the Israeli's, even though their vandalism is evident. Please read the following. I would like your reply to what the Israeli members are doing on that page, namely remove any of Kuntar's testimonies. Noaccess2k (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

FA-Team proposal
I moved your request to the FA-Team proposal page. Please list what kind of help you require, etc. Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 12:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

FA-Team Mission 5: Solar solicitude/solidarity
Hi Nishkid64,

As an FA-Team member, I'm soliciting your assistance with FA-Team Mission 5 on Scattered disc and Solar energy (and possibly others). Your expertise on references, formatting and the MoS would be much appreciated. Please sign up on the mission page and watchlist the mission page and articles if you are interested in helping out. Geometry guy 15:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Learned Hand peer review
Believe it or not, Slp1 and I have now got as far as peer review (eek!) If you have any comments, please get stuck in. All the best. qp10qp (talk) 22:48, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Tunisia flag
Some things I have noticed. I do not doubt the construction sheet given for the flag, but I am having a very hard time trying to say where in the law is the exact color shade of the flag. My French isn't great, but I didn't see anything from the laws. For the variant section, I suggest adding the President's color, which can be seen at Image:Tunisie President Ben Ali.jpg. The flag is mentioned in the Article 4 law, so you can easily write about it. Still haven't found the book yet by Dr. Smith. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * One more thing, I do have his 1975 book about national flags, but it is a Japanese translation of his work. I got it as a gift recently in Tokyo. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:36, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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Mischief makers
Since Moreschi is on vacation, I'm also copying here. I'm at the end of my tether. Wikipedia can't let, now joined by SPAs, hold up productive work on pages Michael Atiyah and Kerala School. They have tried to create new pages Raju-Atiyah case (AfD'd speedily), start various discussions here and there to keep a bogus issue alive. I resent that I, as a knowledgeable editor in the field have to waste so much of my time in engaging mischief-makers, who in real-life I would never have time for. Very depressing also that a notorious editor, under ArbCom restriction, can get away with so much on Wikipedia. Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  23:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for looking into this. Best regards,  Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  18:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Can I second this? User:perusnarpk and User:Abhimars seem to be on some kind forum shopping spree all over the WP noticeboards during User:Bharatveer's absence. I am trying to make mainspace edits and do not like the disruption they are causing. Perusnarpk has started leaving absurd messages on my talk page. Thanks in advance, Mathsci (talk) 11:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Asdreni
He appears to have been evading his block as. What do you think? Perhaps we should take this to the CheckUser page, but the only problem is that it might be attended to by the time his original block has already expired. Maybe a better option would be either to ask a CU directly and/or semi-protect the page. Khoikhoi 20:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think this IP and this one  might also be him.  Same articles, same edit pattern. --Tsourkpk (talk) 22:31, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

My RFA
Thanks for participating in my RFA. While you didn't support me, I understand your concerns, and I will try not to shirk hard decisions. If I can help you with anything, you know where to find me.

Cheers!

J.delanoy gabs adds 20:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Azerbaijani violinist
With all due respect, but the name of the category "Azerbaijani violinists" is misleading. What does the term "Azerbaijani" mean?
 * Someone, who has an Azerbaijani citizenship? Well, Asriyan does not have an Azerbaijani citizenship.
 * Azerbaijani = born in Azerbaijan? Then why don't we call it "Violinists born in Azerbaijan"? I offered this option at the very beginning.
 * Azerbaijani = being ethnically an Azerbaijani Turk? Then how come Asriyan appears there?

I would suggest renaming the category to something more appropriate. Also, please be advised that many ethnic minorities (most of whom, are actually the natives of the lands that currently are included in Azerbaijan), are against them being called "Azerbaijanis" because they feel that "Azerification" is the continuation of the same policy of forced assimilation that has been in use since the creation of the first Azerbaijani state back in 1918. VartanM (talk) 05:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

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Atiyah
Hi Nishkid64. Thanks for your comments on the living bio noticeboard. I understand your criticism about lack of mainstream media attention. My question, already raised on the RS noticeboard, is that (1) if you look through the talk page, no one had disputed the facts; that Atiyah was informed of Raju's work and yet approved the publication of an article claiming credit for an idea that he himself judged to be very promising. (2) there is a strongly worded petition signed by 35 very eminent academics that clearly supports Raju's allegations of academic misconduct.

The logic behind using mainstream media as an RS is that an editor or a journalist puts his/her reputation on the line. Here, 35 academics including Ashis Nandy, Vandana Shiva, Sumit Sarkar, Tanika Sarkar, Harish Trivedi, MGK Menon and others have stated that there seems a prima facie case of misconduct. To my mind this is far more reliable than a mainstream media source. However, perhaps Wikipedia's policies are the opposite and only a mainstream media source is acceptable, not a petition signed by eminent academics.

I have repeatedly asked this question on the talk page and not received an answer. I did receive an answer on the RS notice board but that was based on a misreading of my original post.

Perhaps you have an answer to this question. Is it only the mainstream media that is reliable? Or does a petition with signatories far more eminent that you are likely to find in a typical newspaper also acceptable? thanks,

P.S: If you have an answer to this question I would appreciate if you would post it on the RS notice board where I have raised this question. While I am grateful for your friendly advice, I am a bit disinclined towards long bilateral conversations here, on my talk page or on yours. thanks again Perusnarpk (talk) 13:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

LoC refs
Why did you reformat the LOC refs on Félix Houphouët-Boigny, removing the accessdate? --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 16:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait for me at Leon M'ba! --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 16:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Regarding [2], it didn't seem to work in this case. And as to why I removed your inline comments: The African Election Database is considered very reliable concerning-you guessed it-African elections. The other one was indedeed unreliable, my computer is acting funky today and I must've removed that one by accident. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) the material used is relevant to the notability of the subject being discussed; Pass
 * 2) it is not contentious; Pass
 * 3) it is not unduly self-serving; Pass
 * 4) it does not involve claims about third parties; I think this is a Pass
 * 5) it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; Pass
 * 6) there is no reasonable doubt as to who authored it; Pass
 * 7) the article is not based primarily on such sources. Pass

Also, "All data found on this web site was obtained from Internet sources. Types of sites where most results are found are:

-Electoral Authorities in Sub-Saharan Africa -Local Online Newspapers from the country of research -Official Government documents from the country of research -Electoral Observer mission reports -Web Archive (http://web.archive.org/), which can retrieve pages from old/dead web sites -Numerous web searches (mainly in English, French, and Portuguese) -Research papers written by individuals on elections and electoral systems in Sub-Saharan Africa (usually PDF documents) -Other Election Sites, etc." This strikes me as reliable. If you have any doubts about the reliability of the database, contact User:Acntx--he's the webmaster. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

POV in Indian articles
Hi there is an IP address probably from India which is wreaking havoc with some of the Bollywood articles. See his contributions. He persistently keeps adding POV to an article or glorifying an actor or film further than they or it actually is. It is a major nuisance for the editors on here who work on Indian cinema articles to have to keep reverting him day in day out just to maintain some sense of article neutrality. He has been warned many times and his persistence has resulted in edit conflicts on more than just a few articles. Could you please warn and/or block him and try to make him aware of wikipedias neutrality and why his edits which are intent on putting POV or glorifying the subject of the article unnecesarily may be construed as against policy and therefore vandalism. Its doing my nut it keeping track of him. User:Shshshsh (Shahid) raised my awarenss of it initially and other editors such as totalfilmi99 have to keep reverting him e.g here. Should he be blocked do you think? This is an exmaple of the kind of crap he keeps putting in articles  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 17:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Timeline of Félix Houphouët-Boigny
Yo Nishkid. Just thought you want to know I've created Timeline of Félix Houphouët-Boigny, similar to other personal timelines (Timeline of Jane Austen, Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft, etc.) It's really a mess right now, but I think we can take this to FL. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 18:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, please delete that page. It would be redundant anyway. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't care, the article currently isn't ready for FAC, it still needs a peer review, but GAN is the first step. Perhaps we should bypass GAN on Leon Mba, then? --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 21:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Chinandega
Hi could you fix the WP:Translation thing at the top please as with Félix Houphouët-Boigny  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks its a pretty impressive looking article isn't it! Exactly what we need rather than the one line stubs that dominate much of central america at present  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thank-you
Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

translation
I'm looking for someone to translate about three sentences of French for me. I see a place to request an article be translated, but not just a snippet, so I hope you can help. With regard to Boni de Castellane, Paul Morand wrote, "Boni de Castellane s'est converti à l'homosexualité, la cinquantaine passée, me racontait Proust. De la part d'un grand séducteur de femmes 1900. C'était une recrue de marque, dont les homosexuels n'étaient pas feu fiers." I get the gist of the first sentence, but the rest defies me. - Outerlimits (talk) 02:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you, that helps very much. (Though I still can't tell if it's true, at least I know what was alleged :) ! - Outerlimits (talk) 01:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
For protecting the Phir Hera Pheri article. Frankly I don't have that strong feelings about the article and the film itself (which I honestly did not like), it's just that emphasis, POV and attempts to defame something make me angry. Apart from that I'm extremely busy these days so it's difficult to follow things consistently. I think we will be able to solve the problem later with a talk page discussion. Thanks again, Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  15:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)