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We're so glad you're here! Dawnseeker2000  16:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Your edits
I just wanted to let you know that you're adding a field in the infobox that doesn't exist. See, there is no parameter for "2010" in Infobox settlement. Dawnseeker2000  16:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I've rolled back all of your edits as they're incorrect. It seems that you haven't checked to see that your edits are even making a legitimate change to the article. They're not. Every edit you've made hasn't actually made a change to the (visible) article. They're invalid edits. If you would like help with this please let me know. Dawnseeker2000   16:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, what you want to change here is the field:

Just use your find feature in your browser (Ctrl + F) to locate this (existing field) in the infobox. Change that to 2010, then change  to the new and updated population total. Now this introduces a the issue of verifibility. We need to update the source for the new population total. For example, on the Plainfield, New Jersey article it looks like the reference for this is in a field in the infobox called. That field looks like it refers to reference in another template in the Demographics subheading. The reference in this article is from the United States Census Bureau. We need to change this reference with an updated URL (hopefully there is one). Dawnseeker2000  16:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I think it's right now. Let me know. Njbattchief (talk) 17:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep, you nailed it :) You can always add ref formatting too, but your change is perfect! Dawnseeker2000   17:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

But how do I change it in the historical populations box? Njbattchief (talk) 17:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)


 * That data is in the template USCensusPop right in the Plainfield,_New_Jersey section. So we can make the change much the same way that you did in the first template. The field for the population is called  and the year is  . The new updated reference can be put in  . There is a trick to use one reference in multiple locations throughout an article without having to use the full URL and everything else each and every time. I can jump in there and set that up.  Dawnseeker2000   17:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Hudson County cites
Hi, Njbattchief. Welcome to Wikipedia!

Thanks for participating to improve the articles on cities in Hudson County. Just a couple of things, though: I had to remove the material about the all-time lows and highs because Wikipedia cannot accept unsourced material or original research. This includes material lacking cited sources, or obtained through personal knowledge or unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Wikipedia requires that all material added to articles be accompanied by reliable, verifiable sources explicitly cited in the text in the form of an inline citation, which you can learn to make here. I couldn't find anywhere in the sources you added, or any other sourced mention in the article, about these lows and highs. If there are indeed such sources in the article that I missed, I apologize; if you point them out to me, I'll restore that info.

Also, the Lead section of an article is intended to summarize an article's most salient information, in particular the things for which the subject is notable. I don't think a city's all-time high or low falls under this criterion, so even if sourced, I think it would be more appropriate to add that to the Demographics section.

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Btw, are you from Hudson County like me? User:Theornamentalist and I both live in Union City, and are heading to the Wikipedia meetup in the city this Saturday. Are you going? Let me know, so maybe we an go together. Thanks! :-) Nightscream (talk) 00:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The information is actually already in each article in the historical population chart under the demographics section. If you look at the chart you can see if they have reached an all-time low or high based on the census figures. I just thought it would be helpful to point it out without people having to check the chart. Njbattchief (talk) 05:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it's redundant, because in general, populations tend to grow, so most Census population figures (though admittedly not all of them) tend to be all-time highs.


 * So are you in the area? Are you going to the Meetup? Nightscream (talk) 23:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion on the population situation. Many populations in New Jersey Municipalities are actually dropping due to people fleeing high property taxes. Some are even reaching all-time lows. I was raised in Union County and still work there but I now live in Ocean County. As for the meetup, between work and my family I generally don't have time to attend things like that. Njbattchief (talk) 01:04, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

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