User talk:Nlu/archive65

Calendar format
Hi, Nlu, do you think this revision or this revision better? The argument is whether to centralise the word "Ceremonies" or left-sided all the events? For Olympics, it is all left-sided, as i think it is better to be left-sided, so what you think? I see it is a small concerns but so many argument already and i cannot wait to resolve to trouble. Thank you. --Aleen f 1 05:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think centering it is better (as "October" is centered below), but really, this is Big Endian vs. Little Endian... --Nlu (talk) 05:43, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * All Olympics have the events left sided, of course, if want to, standardize all, but due to iconic problem, left-sided is better then? --Aleen f 1 05:52, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see a problem with left-sided either. Again, this, as you pointed out, is extremely minor... --Nlu (talk) 06:45, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Aleenf1 is wrong all calendars have the word in the center. Intoronto1125 (talk) 15:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have a counterexample, Intoronto1125? In any case, as I (and he) wrote above, this is such a minor issue...  --Nlu (talk) 15:49, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Every calendar is formatted like how I said. ,, , , , , (for this calendar Aleenf1 has edited it and has left the word in the center, this indicates he just wants to have an editing war with me). Intoronto1125 (talk) 18:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't really say who's right and who's wrong here, other than that getting into a Big Endian vs. Little Endian war here is wrong. --Nlu (talk) 19:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You can't just decide to change the format because you like it, which he has accused me off. Intoronto1125 (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, the links he dropped all but one not centralised, so are him have some problems to verify his editing or so... The previous line he wrote indicate that "Who's really like this way?" So, Intoronto1125, stop charging yourself, each time that the link you give indicate the wrong or you altered it to make you are right. --Aleen f 1 15:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You make no sense all the links i provided I did not make it centralized. Why are you wrongly accusing me? Intoronto1125 (talk) 18:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want make a probe, i can show you. So what try to do is you "trying" to fool other like me or you try to rescue yourself. Try to understand that, the name is that, no arguement, you can't try to say that is not yours. --Aleen f 1  11:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Folks, I think arguing on my talk page (or anywhere else) isn't going to accomplish anything. I suggest either of you should open an RFC. --Nlu (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Incase Aleenf1 cannot see I AM THE ONE WHO CREATED most of those calendars, so obviously I am going to be putting that tag. This guy is acting like a child. Intoronto1125 (talk) 15:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Intoronto1125, I still think this is better resolved by discussion. Creating the calendars doesn't mean you own them.  Again, let's see what the consensus is.  --Nlu (talk) 16:18, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean it like I owned it, all I was saying was it was centralized, because I created it how else would you expect me too do it? Intoronto1125 (talk) 18:38, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

move category
Category:Chinese Muslims needs to be moved to Category:Muslims from China, since {the uyghurs) in there certainly do not identify as ethnic chinese, Category:Chinese Islamists also needs to be moved to Category:Islamists from China since it exclusively covers Uyghurs and not Hui.ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ (talk) 04:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You can nominate it for moving at WP:CFD. However, I disagree substantively, since it is not true that all Uyghurs identify themselves as non-Chinese.  --Nlu (talk) 05:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

RFC/U on Tenmei
As an editor who has interacted with User:Tenmei on the Senkaku Islands pages, I would like to inform you that I have filed a Request for comment on user conduct of Tenmei. You may read that RFC/U at Requests for comment/Tenmei, and are welcome to comment on it as explained at Requests for comment/User conduct/Guidance2 once it has been certified. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I may make some comments in a few days, over the weekend, as I am kind of trying to recover from preparing for a trial (that case has now settled, but it almost went to trial).  --Nlu (talk) 13:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

sources published in china
some user has an issue over here at Talk:Xiao%27erjing over sources published in china, apparently he wants massive portions of the articles ripped out, even though i sourced alot of it with inline citations, and hes bringing up totally irrelavant claims, which even if true, have no bearing on whether the article should get deleted, like "Parts of the article imply that there has been one single orthography of Xiao’erjing. I doubt that"

I don't see where in the article where it said that. Many things he notes, such as lack of publishers, etc, are true of many other articles, yet he is only targeting the Xiaoerjing article! for example, look at Passion Hymns which totally lacks sources like thousands of other articles, and he comes onto xiaoerjing to complain, im getting the feeling that he has some sort of a grudge against the article. We need input from more people on this.Дунгане (talk) 20:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * As I indicated above as well, I need a couple more days to get my schedule back more manageable again, and I do plan to comment. However, one argument not to make is to go "but this other article has the same problem, too!"  That wouldn't be a convincing argument.  The best arguments that I can think of are to argue that the sources were nevertheless reliable and that they were also the best sources available on a clearly notable subject.  --Nlu (talk) 21:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Yongle the Great
Replied at ANI, you want WP:SPI. Set it up and I'll fix it if I think it's wrong. What a pain he is! Dougweller (talk) 10:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Click here, set it up and I'll take a look. Dougweller (talk) 10:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but before I actually do so, can you take a look at the (hidden) directions on reopening the case and see if you can understand it better than I can? Since it called for it to be handled by reopening the case rather than filing a new one, I am hesitant to simply open a new one.  --Nlu (talk) 11:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd left out the last letter, but add Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yongle the Great as the puppet master and look at preview. Dougweller (talk) 13:31, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, doesn't look as though this is Yongle the Great. Dougweller (talk) 14:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll trust your judgment on this one. Thanks for your help.  --Nlu (talk) 15:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Mei Zhu
Hi. Your dedication and attention to detail regarding the Mei Zhu decision impressed me. I appreciate your professionalism

kind regards, --UnicornTapestry (talk) 20:13, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Nlu (talk) 20:29, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Amendments to Carl Truscott
Nlu,

Thank you for the heads up. I am new to Wikipedia edits and am slowly learning the protocol and small bits of necessary coding. I'll be more adamant about following the procedures of the website when making amendments.

74.11.216.66 (talk) 21:02, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's good to see new contributors.  It will take time to learn all the Wiki stuff, but be brave about it and be willing to learn.  --Nlu (talk) 22:43, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Abel Coolen
Could you perhaps have a look at this one? It's an obvious hoax, but the CSD and PROD tags have been removed by an anonymous IP (probably the same as the article creator, who else would care...), so I'm unsure what to do with it now. Thanks! --Crusio (talk) 14:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Deleted. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  --Nlu (talk) 14:39, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Attention on Ming
There has been constant newby members removing contents in Ming Dynasty article. can you check it out? --LLTimes (talk) 02:36, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  --Nlu (talk) 02:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * My conclusion is that, as well as the two IPs, are all sockpuppets of . I've blocked the user/IPs and reverted their edits.  Thanks for bringing the matter to my attention.  --Nlu (talk) 02:44, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I thought so :) --LLTimes (talk) 02:45, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Zhen Luo / Lady Zhen
Hey dude, I just changed up the Zhen Luo article a bit, after finding no historical basis for her having the personal name 'Luo'. I added a new section to the talk page Talk:Zhen_Luo, proposing that we move the article contents to Lady Zhen or Mistress Zhen and redirect Zhen Luo there. I'd like to hear your input and/or corrections. Good health. Snuge purveyor (talk) 14:39, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've commented. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  --Nlu (talk) 15:57, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Buyeo/Fuyu, Balhae/Bohai should be listed as wiki china
Buyeo/Fuyu, Balhae/Bohai should be listed as wiki china too.

Those pages are too koreancentric. And Buyeo isnt even korean.

I think its best wiki China project should be involved in those pages. What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumber111 (talk • contribs) 13:24, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You can add it. I don't think that will bring an objection from anyone.  --Nlu (talk) 14:54, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Photo Question
I was wondering if we were able to use yfrog photos (link Twitpics, just a different site) here? It is of Frank Buckles lying in repose at the Arlington National Cemetery Chapel. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  •  Coor. Online Amb'dor  • 15:52, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If not, what about this image? It is taken by someone from the EPA, so it might be able to be released per PD-USGov. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  •  Coor. Online Amb'dor  • 15:59, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Answered. Thanks. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  •  Coor. Online Amb'dor  • 16:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * :-) Sorry I wasn't around quickly enough to answer it.  --Nlu (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Request Lock on Balhae/Bohai page
I saw recent vandalism by Ecthelion on the Balhae page. I think its best to lock the page immidiately until further notice.

What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumber111 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever it is, it really isn't vandalism. (Vandalism really has to be intentionally destructive.)  Regardless, I must say, I am tired of fighting over the issue of whether Goguyreo and Balhae are "Korean" or not.  It really doesn't mean much of anything historically.  --Nlu (talk) 04:12, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

RFD participation
Could you give your input on these two RFD's? "Zhejiang Railway Station" (4 March) and "Anzhou, china" (13 March)? Thanks. -- HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  18:55, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for bringing these to my attention.  (And I'm sorry that I didn't agree with you on these...)  --Nlu (talk) 19:27, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * not a problem. in fact, I had expected a vote for strong deletion on the first (sorry Zhejiang is 浙江 and Zhenjiang is 鎮江 and no reasonable pronunciation of Zhenjiang would exclude the "n") and neutral/keep on the second. -- HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  19:34, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You're correct that there is no reasonable pronunciation that misses the "n," but typing it makes it possible to miss the "n." (I've done it myself on a regular basis.)  --Nlu (talk) 19:35, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * well I don't think we should imply Zhejiang is 鎮江 or there is a railway station for an entire province, which is very confusing. -- HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  19:49, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. There is definitely a tradeoff here.  (But also see Eva Longoria and Evan Longoria.)  --Nlu (talk) 19:51, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

One more. I find Rossami's excuse of 'preserving page move history' to vote keep for "Datang town (Chengdu Datang)" (look under 03-26) just short of laughable. Exactly what we need here on WP. Those who zealously apply policy to the letter. -- HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  04:40, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Aquirata
I see you rightly removed Aquirata from AIV because of no edits for a day. However, for what it's worth, in answer to your earlier request for a 2nd opinion, Ii agree with you. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 16:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Uconnjoseph
During their brief stay with us as a registered user (for now, I suppose), Uconnjoseph created an AfD. Since I have participated, I don't want to do a non-admin closure, so if you want to roll through there and handle it, feel free! Strikerforce (talk) 17:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't think it should be speedily kept, but I've added my point to the discussion.  --Nlu (talk) 17:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Greg Anderson (trainer)
You may want to check out this edit by an ISP since it affects the context of your post. Cheers! Location (talk) 01:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Nlu (talk) 01:33, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for AIV work
Hi, Nlu! I just wanted to briefly express my appreciation for your response to my AIV report about an IP's edits to the Carl Truscott acticle, just now. Specifically, thanks for warning him again, on his talk page. Wikipedia would become useless in a month or two without the efforts of admins who fight to keep the barbarians from the gate, and I'm grateful for your work, so thanks! – OhioStandard  (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * And it can't function without diligent editors like you who report the vandalism/other wrongful edits. Thank you!  --Nlu (talk) 19:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Recent move from Fei Yi to Bi Yi
I knew why u choose "Fei" as the pronunciation, but actually 費禕's pronunciation is not a controversy (at least not when I was in HK). That's why i didn't put the following ref in the main article earlier (I thought a "name issue" section like the one in Lady Zhen was unnecessary)

《论语·雍也章》:“费音秘，为去声……费，季氏邑”

《辞源》also says the last name sounds "Bi" 费姓音“秘"

I'm too lazy to translate the ref. I knew u guys could understand Chinese. The particular character 費禕 appears in 出師表, which is taught in HK high school, so a 13 year old should know that.EkmanLi (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Also, do u know of a way (tool) to conveniently change his name in templates and related articles?EkmanLi (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see my further explanation on Talk:Fei Yi. I apologize for my tone earlier.  But I still think a move is uncalled for and improper.  --Nlu (talk) 02:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't blame u on that. On the contrary, I'm afraid I'm the one who's not being modest.EkmanLi (talk) 02:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, not your fault; fault's mine. Although on the merits of the edits I still believe that "Fei" rather than "Bi" should be used, for explanation I gave there.  --Nlu (talk) 02:22, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

this user appears to be a white supremacist should i bring this case to ANI?
contributions consist of bashing Gypsies and their IQ, editing articles on Crimes commited by black Africans, and adding a picture of a blond hair girl to the uyghur article

on his user page, he proudly has a swastika on display and identifies as "Racist"- User:Me ne frego

quote "...all of which is solely Gypsy fault and in fact they discriminate the majority. Segregation is just result of their low average intelligence which is largely innate, estimates are around IQ ~70."

ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I think bringing it to ANI is a good idea, but make your report concise and to the point. (I am a little too tired to look at this tonight myself -- had a long day in court -- but if no one had acted on it by tomorrow, I'll look at it then.)  Thanks for asking for my advice.  --Nlu (talk) 01:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Air Jordan
re: Sorry maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see the justification for revision deletion here. Can you explain this? -- &oelig; &trade; 18:45, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * inserted a reference to a male body part, and the reference was not removed until a few edits later, but then another similar vandalism was made; that's why I deleted all of the edits in that sequence. --Nlu (talk) 03:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * "ball sack"?? Are you serious? We get that kind of juvenile random vandalism all the time. This did not need a revdel. -- &oelig; &trade; 16:13, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I respect your opinion, but I disagree. --Nlu (talk) 17:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

100K

 * Thank you! I would have forgotten about it myself.  --Nlu (talk) 00:47, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

warn this ip
can you give this ip a warning for the mass deletions he did 219.79.207.97 at Century of humiliation, i restored the deleted parts but I have no idea how to warn him on the talk page.ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ (talk) 00:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I will do that, but you should take a look at WP:WARN for general guidelines on how to warn people. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  --Nlu (talk) 02:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Not Blocking
Can you please explain why so many administrates like you are so reluctant to block users that are obviously nothing but vandals. Jjrw's only edits consists of making 3 hoax pages. There is no chance he'll actually be a constructive editor. Why focus on technicalities like not being informed of the possibility of being blocked? This is not the first time this happened, and it will happen again. I just want to know why. JDDJS (talk) 16:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I would have blocked him/her had there been any kind of a warning that a block would be coming. I share your frustration, but the policies that we have to follow calls for a warning before a block.  --Nlu (talk) 17:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I need your input
Reliable_sources/Noticeboard

Talk:Boxer_Rebellion

Talk:Boxer_RebellionΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ (talk) 21:56, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

and User:John Smith's has a long history of writing pro Japanese POV and anti China POV on multiple articles, with a big block log- edit warring on nanking massacre, and obsessed with adding anti Chinese POV to articles- ΔΥΝΓΑΝΕ (talk) 22:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I've just a couple very, very busy weeks, and I am not sure that I can look at this right now. Looks like at least one other editor is already getting involved, which is good.  --Nlu (talk) 13:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)