User talk:Nnevillem

Welcome
{| style="background-color:#F5FFFA; padding:0;" cellpadding="0" {| width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top; background-color:lavender; padding:0;" ! Hello, Nnevillem! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~&#126;"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! Wwwhatsup (talk) 23:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you
Thanks for the welcome. I am still learning and have limited time to contribute. I would be grateful to understand how the 'babysitting' service works as I have a few concerns. I hope I put this in the right place. --Nnevillem (talk) 00:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Just keep bashing, you'll get the hang of it soon enough. If you blunder be assured that plenty of editors will be around to apply correction. Assume good faith and expect the same. I'll keep an eye on you. User boxes normally go on one's user page. I've moved the Visual Arts box for you. Wwwhatsup (talk) 08:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


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Guide to referencing
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Rachel Howard
Thank you for starting this article. The list of shows has been removed (it is in the history still) as it is a copyright violation of the list on the Rachel Howard web site. Also it is disproportionate to the article. We are looking for content, rather than a CV, so any extra information that can be included and referenced, would be welcome. A short list of shows would be appropriate, but with the wording tweaked, so it is not a direct copy of the source. Tyrenius (talk) 00:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Just wanted to say congratulations on a perfectly formatted reference! It provides credibility and is the way to ensure information will stay in the article. Tyrenius (talk) 01:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

And also a cautionary note. You've taken a sentence word for word from The Independent. That's not allowed, since it's a copyright violation, so I've tweaked it. Always make sure you paraphrase the original. Tyrenius (talk) 01:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

References and groundwork
One of the most important things is to learn how to reference properly. External links should be kept to a mininum. If there is valuable information on a link, it should be summarized and then the cited inline. Tyrenius has thoughtfully provided you with the tutorial above. Click 'show' on the right to read it.

Another important consideration when adding fresh articles is notability. Always try and have at least a couple of decent newspaper references or other authoritative secondary sources before adding any fact. Look before you leap, as it were.

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Subliminal Girls
If you had googled Subliminal Girls before adding them to the Art Brut infobox, you would have discovered their wikipedia article at Subliminal Girls (Band) which you could have linked to. In fact that capital B is bad style for wikipedia, so I have moved the article to Subliminal Girls (band). More to the point you would have discovered that while The Art Goblins are definitely an associated act, the Subliminal Girls connection is perhaps just a little too tenuous to merit inclusion in that category. That the band includes people that have played with Jasper & Eddie in side bands doesn't quite cut it, however similar they are. Note that Macaca Mulatta are notable automatically under WP:MUSIC as the band includes a former Art Brut member - they deserve an article. The Subliminal Girls article reads like a promo piece and is virtually unreferenced. As it stands it could be a candidate for deletion. That would be a good place to practice your referencing skills. Wwwhatsup (talk) 08:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks wwwhatsup. I had realised that the page as it stood before was just a blurb, and had attempted to start tiding it up. I have removed anything from the original post that was not referenced and will continue with research.Nnevillem (talk) 12:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Very good. Got your first properly formatted ref in there. Congrats on that. I've knocked out the native.tv, their site is down. What you should be clear on is the difference between primary refs and secondary. Primary is someone writing about their own stuff, such as, say Weekender writing about one of their bands, and secondary is somebody independently writing about that stuff. Generally speaking primary sources are ok as a reference for facts such as personnel, releases etc but not for opinions. In Wikipedia's opinion two-a-penny bloggers are not valid secondary sources, they have to be at least somewhat notable and authoritative - say Drowned in Sound for instance. As an alternative to knocking out uncited fame/acclaim claims you can just reference a couple of the more notable sources - you can even include a phrase in the ref template by adding a |quote= inside the curly brackets. You could even add a 'reviews' section - just as long as there are cites. Fortunately the chart placing is enough to establish notability, which is good because their doesn't appear to be one solid secondary source to be found on a quick google. The vids are there tho so I've added a videography. A small note on formatting titles - songs get the "quotes" while album titles get the double apostrophes. Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Sign
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appologies- I had remembered just as I hit 'save' then immediately went back to sign it.Nnevillem (talk) 14:29, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:BooSaville.jpg
hi did you take this pic?Genisock2 (talk) 18:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Yes, I took it at her opening event- did I do the right tags? Do let me know if I need to do anything else, many thanks.


 * thankyou for letting me know.Genisock2 (talk) 02:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

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