User talk:Noaghebreab

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sennay Ghebreab (May 9)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

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KylieTastic (talk) 11:41, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Sennay Ghebreab has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sennay Ghebreab. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 21:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)


 * You asked at hte Teahouse for additional comments. I said there:

Since I frequently work with academic bios, I was asked to comment. There are two major ways in which the draft is unsatisfactory (1) It is very highly promotional & not written in an objective fashion. It contains far too much material about person life, activities that do not amount to notability,   an impressionistic account of his teaching and work, and an account of his university department. A WP article focuses on a person's notability, sp the peripheral material needs to be removed. The style of writing needs to be improved also: the first step will be removing all the adjectives. (2) He is  borderline notable according to our standard, WP:PROF Notability in his field of work is judged primarily by showing the scientific work influential, as measured by citation o it in Google Scholar or Scopus, etc. In the biomedical standards, the minimum accepted here is at least 2 papets with well over 100 cites, but Google Scholar shows 123, 98, 65, ....   It's not a formal guide, but the results of recent article discussions here makes it clear that this is what people examining such articles at AfD  regard as acceptable. Perhaps it should be lower, or higher, or not used as an indicator at all, but it is what is used, and there is no point in accepting a Draft if the article is going to be rejected at WP:AFD. However, he's working in a specialized area, and, it might be one with lower citation density. But there's an objective way to sse how influential he is: compare his citation record with people in the same field whom he cites or who cite his work: .His most cited paper, with 132 cites, cites papers with 551, 430, 328, etc but that's not very indindicative as everyone can & usually does can cite the classic papers in their field, What is indicative is that his papers are cited by papers on very similar subjects with 503, 329, 309, 253. 219. 100, 98, 88 ... .. citations frome one of his better-cited papers, and 339, 219, 124, 92, 72 from another. , which is enough to show he is important in his field bt not one of the most important. On balance, I would accept it if the promotionalism gets fixed, and let it take its chances at AfD. After all, WP:Draft is just meant as a prelinary approval step to get rid of the drafts that are not going to pass. With the promotionalism in, it will not pass, with it removed, it might. I'm copying this to the user talk pa as a record.  DGG ( talk ) 17:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. Please note that Sennay Ghebreab is known for his engaged scholarship: he aims at making social impact with science rather than focussing on number of scientific publications and citation impact. This is also why he has been recognized as on of 200 most influential persons in the Netherlands in 2020. He is one of only four black people on this list which is created yearly by an internationally recognized organization that performs network and influence analysis. --Noaghebreab (talk) 14:11, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sennay Ghebreab (July 26)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Locomotive207 was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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🌀 Locomotive207 - talk  🌀  02:13, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I looked at Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. Could you please indicate which sources you find unreliable in the draft? --Noaghebreab (talk) 14:14, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sennay Ghebreab (October 2)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Scope creep was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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 scope_creep Talk  19:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 13:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)