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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Cahk (talk) 07:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rinaly (April 16)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jamiebuba was:

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Jamiebuba (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rinaly (April 25)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
Hello MusicSoundsGoodAgency. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:MusicSoundsGoodAgency. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I realise that you have made a general COI disclosure on your user page; thank you for that. However, given your user name, and the nature of your edits, I believe you may have the more specific paid-editing COI, which needs to be disclosed. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing
 * Hey thank you for the infotmation!I am not being paid by her if that matters, my management of her is to help me learn the business as I am just starting out in the music industry. Does that matter for the paid COI?
 * Purely thought we should setup a wiki for her because she has become noticable enough of a DJ. So for the edits, since she is a personal friend of mine, i just reach out about information to make sure its correct.
 * I can just pay for someone to make it though, as she deserves this I think. Do you know a service you trust? MusicSoundsGoodAgency (talk) 13:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for responding. If you're not getting paid or otherwise rewarded, and have nothing to gain financially, then you probably don't need to make the paid-editing disclosure, the general COI one you have on your user page may suffice.
 * I wouldn't advise you to pay anyone to create this, and I certainly couldn't recommend anyone. A hired editor would need to make the same disclosures and would be essentially in the same position as you with their COI. Also, there are so many less-than-scrupulous paid editors out there that you might find they take your money and fail to deliver what was agreed. And certainly don't respond to anyone approaching you, offering to create this article for money, that's unlikely to end well (see WP:SCAM for more on this).
 * Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing
 * thank you for letting me know! i was approached a few times but was trying to figure this out on my own. I will keep reviewing the rules and improve the article!
 * didnt know what i was getting into when I started this 😅 MusicSoundsGoodAgency (talk) 15:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, article creation is probably the most difficult thing one can do on Wikipedia (apart from all the administrator etc. stuff), especially where notability needs to be demonstrated (which it does, for most things) and/or where promotionality is an issue. I think I had been editing for nearly ten years before I attempted my first article, and even then I got more things wrong than right! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing
 * sorrycant figure out hiw to respond if i can in the help desk but that information is great thank you. I saw the notice of depreciated but it didnt state which site and thought i removed the right one. thank you for your patience and guidance. MusicSoundsGoodAgency (talk) 05:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Rinaly has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Rinaly. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 08:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
Welcome to Wikipedia. Your account has been blocked from editing because your username gives the impression that the account represents a group, club, organization, company, or website. '''Your username is the principal reason for the block. You are welcome to continue editing after you have chosen a new username that complies with Wikipedia's username policy, which is summarized here.'''

You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable, regardless of the username that you choose. Additionally, if your contributions to Wikipedia form all or part of work for which you are, or expect to be, paid or compensated in any way, you must disclose who is paying you to edit here. You may also read our FAQ for article subjects Please take a moment to either create a new account, or request a username change of your current account here. The new username that you choose must represent you as an individual person, and it must comply with Wikipedia's username policy.
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Thank you. &#126; ToBeFree (talk) 08:24, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I am not being paid but I requested a name change :) MusicSoundsGoodAgency (talk) 02:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification and the request! I'll unblock (or a renaming administrator may be faster) when the account is renamed successfully. &#126; ToBeFree (talk) 11:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If you work for https://musicsoundsgood.agency then you will be deemed to be a paid editor. Theroadislong (talk) 11:57, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Working for an article subject is a usually a financial conflict of interest and often comes with paid editing. &#126; ToBeFree (talk) 13:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If you see my companies website, she does not work with us, but I am friends with her. I'm not being paid for this. Should of chose a different name, I apologize :) Was unaware of all the rules getting into this, but that is why I put the COI in my profile. We are friends yes, she is letting me help her out as I learn the music buisness, but I wanted to do this for her as she has accomplished a lot and really is a influencual person in the EDM scene. Espcially overseas and starting to be known in America. Would I still need the paid editor tag if I am not making any money off it? MusicSoundsGoodAgency (talk) 18:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries. It's not strictly about money, it's about any form of compensation. If there is really none, you only have a conflict of interest. That should be disclosed, and you did so on your user page already, but there is then no need for a "paid editing" disclosure and the only guideline you'll need to follow is WP:COI. If I understand the situation correctly, once the username change is done, there's no disclosure action left to be done before continuing to edit. &#126; ToBeFree (talk) 05:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Username has been changed, sorry for the hassle! Noctorium (talk) 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks and welcome back! &#126; ToBeFree (talk) 23:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * How do I be able to publish the page when I am done correctly citing my sources? I noticed the button is gone. Noctorium (talk) 04:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Draft:Rinaly does still have a "Resubmit" button – are you sure it's gone? I can try thinking of possible technical reasons, but I hope it has just been overlooked. Please let me know if it's really not there on your screen. &#126; ToBeFree (talk) 09:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * There are two separate decline notices on this draft, mine from the 25th and below that Jamiebuba's from the 16th of April. The blue 'resubmit' button appears always on the bottom of the most recent decline notice.
 * And to answer your question about publishing this, you cannot publish it directly as you have a COI, you need to continue to put it through the AfC review process until it is accepted. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)