User talk:Noisetier/archive 2

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Edit warring at Israeli settlement
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 * That is fair. Next time I will take more care of my potential reverts. Noisetier (talk) 17:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

ALA
I have posted my thoughts on the page you linked to. —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:24, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

District of Safed
Hi, regarding your edit at Dallata. Because there are quite a few examples of more than one village in Palestine of the same name, we usually identify which district of Palestine it was in (sometimes even in the article name). The unwritten convention among the editors who work on the village articles is to use the 1945-8 districts since that is what most modern sources use. See Districts of the British Mandate of Palestine, last section, where you will notice that we should be calling them "sub-districts" rather than "districts". Also, writing that a village was in Mandatory Palestine won't do, since that entity only lasted about 25 years but most of the villages were there for centuries. Saying that they were in Palestine would be more accurate. It can be confusing, but I think "Palestine" along with the past tense is about the best short solution. What are your thoughts (please reply here)? Zerotalk 01:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Zero0000,
 * I didn't realize this. I should have looked inside the article
 * I think here about the "normal reader". Palestine alone could create conflicts. I would then suggest : "in the (sub-)disctrict of xxx, formerly in Palestine (today Israël)".
 * Noisetier (talk) 05:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi there. If I may interject, I find that its preferable to se a geographical descriptor or distance from a major city in the first sentence. Many articles that were created as stubs se "District of ...." but I try to avoid it in ones I've worked on, using it only in titles where there is more than one village by the same name and there is a need for disambiguation.
 * About your proposed wording, I reject using "formerly Palestine", since it is a word with a geographical meaning that is still in contemporary use. Generally, I don't include "Palestine" as a place in the introduction, and only use in the history section to avoid the controversy its political meaning carries for some people. In any case, most intros do mention that the village now lies within Israel or that Israeli localities have been built in their place, so there is rarely any confusion over their present location.
 * For Dallata, I will make an edit that encapsulated some of what I have outlined above so that you can better understand my suggestion.  T i a m u t talk 17:02, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems good to me. Zerotalk 12:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Current version of Dallata is for me the best possible writing. I will try to follow the same "template".
 * I would suggest to replace 1948 Palestine war by 1948 war which is a better compromise complying with both historians and wikipedians mind on the topic. Noisetier (talk) 06:30, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Fan of yours?
You missed the fun: Special:Contributions/Foo_Bar_Buzz_Netz  Zerotalk 15:43, 5 June 2011 (UTC)