User talk:Noorullah21/2024

A barnstar for you!

 * @ImperialAficionado Thank you for the barnstar. :) Noorullah (talk) 20:31, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Andrej Babić
Hi, thanks for taking part in the discussion but can you please sign your comment as it isn't showing, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Atlantic306 Fixed, thanks for letting me know. Noorullah (talk) 00:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Khalji Revolution
The article Khalji Revolution you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Khalji Revolution for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Catlemur -- Catlemur (talk) 20:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Dubious articles
With your expertise in Khilji era, can you look at this Dubious article Khilji-Mithila War. Take a look at Battle of Thane as well to review. It is another dubious article. This person Shakib ul hassan who is going on a rampage to write dubious articles is falsely doing this to publicize Hindu dynasties. 24.154.162.189 (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Result of the article
Hello as you reverted my edit in this article 1975 Panjshir Valley uprising stating in summary edit that its not political victory. however thats not true as i have stated reasons and citations with a discussion in talk page see the talk page :-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1975_Panjshir_Valley_uprising Rahim231 (talk) 11:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Further question about Abdul Wahab (Mughal historian)
Hi Noorullah21, hope you're doing well. I wanted to continue our conversation from your previous autopatrolled request. Thank you for updating Abdul Wahab (Mughal historian) with the Rahim (1961) source. I wanted to read more about the subject so I got that book, History of the Afghans in India, A.D. 1545-1631, from my library, but I'm not seeing Wahab mentioned on page 277 or in the index. Instead, page 277 in my book discusses Khan Jahan Lodi. Would it be possible for you to provide me with a scan or screenshot from your version of this source (via email would be great)? DanCherek (talk) 22:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @DanCherek Hi, I'm not sure how to send via email, but heres the link I used it from. . On page 277, it states
 * "Abdul Wahab - Intikhab-I-Jahangir Shahi. *Abdul Wahab was a companion of Jahangir and died in 1622-3 ( lo32 H. ). Being close to the court, he gives some valuable information of the reign of Jahangir, ho manuscript of his work is available. A few extracts of the work have been translated in 3311 iot, vol. VI." Noorullah (talk) 23:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I see. Thank you again! I think his Ph.D. thesis (1954) is a bit different from the published version (1961) so I'll go and adjust that in the article when I have some time. Happy editing. DanCherek (talk) 23:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive!
Welcome, welcome, welcome Noorullah21! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles. CactiStaccingCrane (talk)18:53, 1 February 2024 UTC //en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Noorullah21&action=purge refresh via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

The 1933 History of Ceylon
Hello! Thank you for your work adding sources to articles! I was looking at some of your edits for the drive (getting my bearings to potentially review some) and I noticed that you seem to be working through a 1933 History of Ceylon to cite various years of reigns. That general workflow is a great idea, but 1933 and the The Christian Literature Society for India & Africa both raise red flags for me in terms of reliability. (There's an essay touching on similar problems for sources about India at WP:RAJ.) Just citing the years ruled seems fine, but you might want to look for a more recent and less explicitly imperialist source. I think it would also be helpful to readers if you cited the publication year accurately, as I did here. Thanks again for your efforts and happy editing! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @LEvalyn Yeah I didn't want to use it for any main information itself because of issues like WP:RAJ which I am informed of, was just using it for the reign of rulers mostly. Definitely will also look for some better sources where possible and try to include the publication year properly, thanks.
 * Not sure why it was 2004, I used the automatic citation thing and just added in the page prefix where needed. Noorullah (talk) 04:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Glad you're on top of things! I do agree that it's fine for the years you were using it for, just wanted to check in in case. Thanks again for your work! ~ L 🌸  (talk) 04:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Review of WP:FEB24 contributions
Hi, I was reviewing your contributions to the drive. I removed the reference you added in Mayyit: you linked a self-published fiction work, which is not a reliable source. Please only use reliable sources in the references you use. Let me know if you need any help. Broc (talk) 11:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Broc Hi Broc, I added the source because I believe it didn't infringe on using it, however thank you for raising your concern. I'll try to find an alternative source for it. Noorullah (talk) 12:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * My concern is mostly on the fact it is a fictional work. I don't think we should use a novel as a reliable source. Thanks for looking into this! Broc (talk) 12:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Afghan Civil War (1793-1863)
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Concern regarding Draft:Afghan conflict (1793–1863)
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Afghan-Sikh Wars
Hello buddy. Some user who goes by the name of “historian” which is not a verified user was the last to edit the page’s result to “Sikh Victory” with no sourced provided and therefore undid your revision. After he did this, the page was altered to extended protection by another user who has a long history of editing Wikipedia but I believe he did not notice the sudden change prior to the extended protection coming into effect.

Can you please kindly revert the result to what you had done for the page prior to “historian”s edit warring tactic as your change for the result was accurate. I cannot change the result back to military stalemate as I don’t have authority.

Regards,

Pathaan Pathaan2024 (talk) 15:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I changed the article's result to the version prior to when Historian2325 and Dunki appeared, however, Noorullah, if you feel "Military stalemate" is a more accurate result, please change it to so, as I know you're much more knowledgeable on this subject than I am. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 18:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Pathaan2024@Suthasianhistorian8 I was just changing it to its original result. Should we move over to the page’s talk page to further discuss? Noorullah (talk) 19:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 20:34, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Msg
Hy Noorullah, I have Left a msg for you in wikimedia Commons. Can you check it please DeepstoneV (talk) 08:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I have Send the Links to you in Wikimedia, please Kindly check DeepstoneV (talk) 10:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Why you proposed deletion of 2024 Pakistan-Afghanistan skirmishes
It meets the notability criteria and it you check it out it's completely different and goes into detail about the ongoing round of skirmishes and it isn't a replica, you yourself can check it out for yourself Waleed Ukranian (talk) 04:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No need to worry, the community will determine whether the article should be retained or not. Keep up your good work but please ensure that reliable sources are cited and refrain from using blogs/forums like defence.pk etc. --— Saqib ( talk  |  contribs ) 08:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Well if you see that article no blog post has been cited, most citations are news articles and pretty reliable ones at that Waleed Ukranian (talk) 09:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * But the news articles are hosted on a unreliable website. --— Saqib ( talk  |  contribs ) 11:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)--— Saqib  ( talk  |  contribs ) 11:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Al Jazeera, DW, Dawn, AP etc are unreliable first Time hearing so Waleed Ukranian (talk) 13:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I am talking about defence.pk such as this. --— Saqib ( talk  |  contribs ) 13:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * In this article there's no citation of defence.pk you can check that's 1950 Afghan invasion of Balochistan and I think that 1950 Afghan invasion of Balochistan be renamed and transferred to 1950-51 Afghan invasions of Pakistan so that Invasion of Khyber, Radio Kabul campaign, dropping of propaganda leaflets and arms supply to Faqir of Ipi etc could be mentioned, then it'd be notable enough and I'll cite more sources for that article Waleed Ukranian (talk) 04:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Mapping
Assalamu Alaikum Noorullah, Could you please create accurate maps for notable Muslim Sultanates like the Hyderabad State of Nizam and the Golconda Sultanate? The current maps in their articles are highly inaccurate and smaller than the actual ones. DeepstoneV (talk) 22:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @DeepstoneV Walaykum as-salam, Yeah I can try to work on them soon. Noorullah (talk) 10:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * "Jazak Allah, Akhi. By the way, the Nizam Map in that atlas also includes the maps of Awadh and Bengal subah, so it would be better to create a single map incorporating all three." DeepstoneV (talk) 17:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Bengal Sultanate
''The flag was completely sourced and used in the previous versions of the article. Flag is a vital element and should not be removed. Thanks for your understanding.'' AimanAbir18plus (talk) 13:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @AimanAbir18plus The flag was not sourced at all. The fact that it was in previous revisions doesn't matter, it was removed because it was for all sakes and purposes, made up without a source. You were also reverted by another user who states the same thing. Noorullah (talk) 19:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Your thoughts?
Hello @Noorullah21, I have seen that you have some experience related to Maratha-related topics and so wanted to ask your opinion regarding Talk:Maratha Empire. PadFoot2008 12:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @PadFoot2008 Hi. I’ll check it out when I have time, thanks for letting me know about this discussion! Noorullah (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted
Hi Noorullah21, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the new page reviewer user right to your account. This means you now have access to the page curation tools and can start patrolling pages from the new pages feed. If you asked for this at requests for permissions, please check back there to see if your access is time-limited or if there are other comments.

This is a good time to re-acquaint yourself with the guidance at New pages patrol. Before you get started, please take the time to:


 * Add Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers to your watchlist to follow NPP-related discussions
 * If you use Twinkle, configure it to log your CSDs and PRODs
 * If you can read any languages other than English, add yourself to the list of reviewers with language proficiencies

You can find a list of other useful links and tools for patrollers at New pages patrol/Resources. If you are ever unsure what to do, ask your fellow patrollers or just leave the page for someone else to review – you're not alone! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Slow it down
Hey @Noorullah21. I'd like to ask you to slow it down a bit with your new page reviewing. We typically wouldn't expect several quality reviews in a single minute from a new new page reviewer, it signals that due diligence is likely not being performed. Pinging @Nove Prime, as I know this is something they sometimes monitor. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Accidently pinged the wrong person... fixing by pinging @Novem Linguae. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Hey man im josh Sure.
 * The method I usually do is I go onto the NPP and open a ton of tabs of new pages of topics I think would be relatively easy or things I’d like to patrol (i.e Military history, Football related, etc). Then begin patrolling in relatively quick succession — But if you think this might signify that it could not be patrolled properly quality-wise, I’ll slow it down. Noorullah (talk) 16:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I do the same as well actually. But it's concerning from our point of view that you might not have exercised proper care (I haven't done a deep dive myself yet, just noticed you had reviewed over 200 articles in the last day). So, please just make sure there's no appropriate tags to add, take your time, and make sure we're getting it right :) Hey man im josh (talk) 16:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Hey man im josh Of course, I understand your concern since I am just a new page patroller as well. From now on I’ll take it slower, thank you. Noorullah (talk) 16:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Evaluating WP:GNG when an article doesn't qualify for WP:SNG is what can take a lot of time for many articles, especially borderline or poorly sourced ones, because it involves opening each citation and evaluating it until you find enough that pass GNG. And then if you don't find enough passing sources, doing a WP:BEFORE search and evaluating those sources too. So please be careful that you are including a GNG evaluation in your workflow, where appropriate. – Novem Linguae (talk) 18:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Ghurids
The article is slowly becmonig an iranian advertisement. First there was no mention of tajiks in the opening but instead " unknown origins" and now as you have seen, some sources is changed to " most " sources, despite the fact that nearly all -- 2023 and 2024 sources call them Afghans. You are active there  it is your moral duty to take a stance! 84.210.149.236 (talk) 17:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * This is - even- from andre wink whom is qoated in the article.
 * "Ghaznavids and Ghurids, and the contemporary Afghans- artillery . Between 1508 and 1519 he received his first supply of guns and cannon"
 * Counting ghurids as Afghans in his latest 2024 book. 84.210.149.236 (talk) 19:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * That doesn't say the Ghurids were of Afghan origin.


 * "The immediate successors of the Ghaznavids, the twelfth-century dynasty of the Ghurids, originally came from Ghur - the almost inaccessible, arid, and mountainous center of what is now Afghanistan, and they were not Turkish nomads but instead of sedentary Tajik origin." --The Making of the Indo-Islamic World: c.700–1800 CE, André Wink, Cambridge University Press, page 78.
 * Now watch the IP ignore this blatant fact. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * One more, by Wink. Sorry for blowing up your talk page Noorullah21.


 * "The Shansabani or 'Ghurid' sultans who superseded the Ghaznavids in the second half of the twelfth century and finally succeeded in extending Islamic dominion beyond the Panjab were of eastern Iranian or Tajik origin...." --Al-Hind: The Slavic Kings and the Islamic conquest, 11th-13th centuries, André Wink, Vol. 2, Brill, page 135. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kansas Bear Haha no problem, I actually like interactions on my talk page. Noorullah (talk) 21:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * At least pay attention to what is being discussed then reply. We all know your favorite source winks books, but what i said is his latest 2024 book ( like all other new sources) call them Afghan! And why i qoute winks? Just because he is mentioned in the article. 84.210.149.236 (talk) 21:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * And surprise, surprise. The IP did ignore the two quotes. LMAO. Done here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the reliability of the references
I've asked an administrator for the Wikipedia policy regarding the use of snippet sources, as well as opened a thread at RSN for the reliability of Yogendra Mishra. I would appreciate if you stop editing these articles for a while till some consensus is achieved – I don't want this matter to end up at WP:ANI. Sutyarashi (talk) 06:32, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Sur empire
Hey I added a small sentence into the sur empire page to clarify that the empire emerged out of the Bengal Sultante. I was wondering why you deleted. It stumped me and a few others so now that I actually understand what happened I would like to put that piece of info on the wiki page. 82.44.0.125 (talk) 00:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


 * What you're adding is nonsense nor is supported by other sources. No sources state that the Sur Empire emerged from the Bengal Sultanate. Especially as it's capital was based in Bihar, where Sher Shah was first ruler. Noorullah (talk) 00:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The bengal sultanate was in control of bihar. Sher shah emerged out of bihar and took the rest of the bengal lands. 82.44.0.125 (talk) 08:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The Bengal Sultanate was not in control of Bihar, stop adding nonsense unto the page. Noorullah (talk) 16:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

HaughtonBrit SPI
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that Festivalfalcon873 and Alvin1783 were both blocked as obvious socks. It might also be helpful, in case you nominate any other articles that involve the Sikhs, to disclose in the nomination statement that these AFDs are being targeted by a sockmaster using numerous accounts to vote and twist the result in his favour. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 22:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Southasianhistorian8 Sounds good thanks, nice work by the way. Noorullah (talk) 22:53, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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