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GoCE BEDs
Hi Noraft, Trust this finds you well. I just saw your note and thought I would drop you a more personal message. When I was reading the discussions for the new drive here, I saw that your name was missing. I assumed that you must have discussed this with Diannaa and decided to drop out. Nothing is cast in stone yet, so do let me know if you want to participate in any way. Perhaps a role in PR? When I split the drives to include a main page, I ensured that each drive can have its own set of coordinators. One can coordinate a drive, take a rest for the next, and still return. Whatever your decision, I want you to know that as we were both the two initial instigators of the very first drive, I value your all your past contributions, and more importantly, your friendship, a lot. Thanks for everything and please don't feel that you've been ousted. Let me know if you want in. Cheers. – S Masters (talk) 06:45, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey man, don't sweat it. I actually was surprised to be appointed to head this last one, as you and Diannaa were doing all the work. I was more like a figurehead that would occasionally swoop in to make a decision or fix a problem. You all deserve to be coordinating. I'm thinking about starting a Wikiproject Backlog, that does BEDs for all the different backlogged areas, but if I do that, it will be down the road a bit. Anyway, enjoy! I'll watch the progress. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 06:51, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, that's cool. Don't be a stranger and let me know if we can work together again. Cheers. - S Masters (talk) 16:38, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the main reason Noraft had his name on the banner in September was because I had to be out of town, and could not do it. Noraft with his, erm, dare I say encyclopedic knowledge was the perfect person to be available for pressing matters while I was gone. But he was already ready to move on even in September, and I realised that. Hope this clarifies. -- Diannaa (Talk) 15:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

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Hi its Braydengerr, I have some free time again so i started editing again. Think you could help me get going again (haha if you remmember me).
 * What can I do for you? ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 00:27, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

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 * Very cool! Thanks. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 03:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Carlos Celdran
The article Carlos Celdran you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Carlos Celdran for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:10, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I took a look at the reassessment page, which says:
 * If you disagree with a delisting or failed nomination, read the review first. If you can fix the concerns, find them unreasonable, or the review inadequate, it is usually best to renominate the article at Wikipedia:Good article nominations, rather than requesting a community reassessment: there is no minimum time limit between nominations!
 * It is rarely helpful to request a community reassessment for an article which has not had a proper review: simply renominate it.
 * So I think maybe offering a reassessment isn't the best way to go about it. Maybe just invite them to talk to you? Anyway, I don't think the quickfail was justified. I've already fixed a couple of the issues, your concern about his blog as an unreliable source doesn't fit with WP:ABOUTSELF, and if you don't mind I'd like some more guidance about what in the article you consider to be "overly promotional" so I can fix that. Thanks for your review, as it had been a long time. Hopefully I can get this article up to snuff. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 06:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Over promotional? The whole tone of the article is promotional.  There is no critical perspective of the subject just the subject's own statements on blogs and a few passing mentions in news articles, including some decidely dubious sources such as huffington pots, national inquirer and some Filipino web sites. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Um, okay. I asked you to point out some specific places/phrases that you felt there was promotional language specifically because I don't see it. You responded by being vague again, which means I can't improve the article, which is what we're here to do, right? I agree that there is no critical commentary. I'd be happy to write some if I could find any criticism of him in reputable sources. Regarding the sources, it isn't the National Inquirer. It is the Philippine Daily Inquirer which is one of the three big newspapers in the country. There is one Huffington Post article in the list of 23 references. Its right under TIME Magazine. And calling "some Filipino websites" "decidedly dubious sources" just because they're Filipino? Do you know what that sounds like? They're all reputable journalistic sources. I'm getting a better understanding of why you failed it, though. Don't bother answering my questions anymore. I'm going to renominate and find a reviewer who I feel is a little more neutral, and a little more multiculturally sensitive. Thanks anyway. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 13:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Noraft!

If you're still interested in being a mentor this term, please add your profile to Online Ambassadors/Mentors. If you have any questions about the ambassador role or what you're interested in doing as an Online Ambassador (whether mentoring, pitching in in other ways, or something else), please let me know.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been having trouble adding my profile. The code isn't parsing right for some reason. Probably my error, but I'm not sure. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 20:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll add a slot for you and you can fill in the details. Sorry; I know tables are awful.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 00:32, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

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Hello, My name is Griffin Michalczyk and I am in a Writing, Rhetoric and Technical Communication course at James Madison University that works on wikipedia editing and creating articles related to United States Public Policy. I was curious if you would be my mentor during this process.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michalge (talk • contribs) 21:48, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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Hey Noraft. One of the classes working with the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, Jonathan Obar's Media and Telecommunication Policy, is working in small groups and would like us to assign a mentor to each group (rather than having students request the mentors they'd like, as other classes are doing).

I invite you to sign on as the mentor for one or more groups, especially if any of the topics catch your interest. To sign up, go to the course page and add yourself as "Mentor: you" in the section for that group. They students and/or professor or campus ambassadors should be cleaning things up soon to list all the usernames for each group and add a few more groups. Once you know who the students are in the group, you can leave them each a quick introduction to let them know you'll be mentoring their group.

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 * Hi Sage, I just picked up an individual a couple days ago, and I'd like to see how time intensive that is before I take on more work, if that's okay. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 07:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, my name is Trang Pham and I am a student in the Public Policy school of Indiana University. I'm currently taking a course of International Trading Policy and interested in writing about economics, public policy and other topics on Wikipedia. I'm a totally new user and would like to ask you as my Wiki mentor. Thank you.1betterworld (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)1betterworld

mentor request
Hello! I was wondering if you would be my mentor on Wikipedia. I am a masters student and will be writing/editing mainly in international economics and trade and public policy. Thanks! kathy Nadajoy (talk) 00:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to be your mentor. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 00:53, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

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Online Ambassador Program
Please take a look at this project page and see if you can be a mentor to one of the many Areas of Study. If you can, please put your name in the "Online Mentor" area of the Area of Study of your choice and then contact the students you will be working with. As the Coordinating Online Ambassador for this project, please let me know if I can be of assistance. Take Care...<small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 04:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you can. I've had a number of people requesting mentors ask me either via my talk page, or direct email, and I've answered them, letting them know I'd be happy to mentor them, and then I never hear from them again. Is this common? Is there something else I should be doing? ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 04:20, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure really. I think alot of the students aren't sure they can begin editing unless they have the greenlight from Wikipedia.  So the Campus Ambassadors are giving the greenlight and alot is moving along, at least in my project.  We are getting mentors with students right now. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 04:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, generally students get very active just before their assignments are due. So requesting mentors was an early assignment for many of them, and now they have some space while they learn enough to write intelligently about their topics before they get back to editing.  But most that have requested mentors will become active and complete their assignments of significant article contributions.  By the way, did you respond off-wiki to this request below from Enveconmatt?  --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:49, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I am a first time contributor to wikipedia and I am looking for a mentor for a class project. I am a grad student at Indiana University and will be working on a policy project. Will you be my mentor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enveconmatt (talk • contribs) 21:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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Hello, I am working with Syracuse University with the Public Policy WIkipedia Project. We are editing wikipedia as a class. I was wondering if you would be my online ambassador for help with editing and such for wikipedia. I am also unsure if i am even doing this correctly so yes I am pretty new at this whole thing. If you could let me know that would be great! thanks. AbbeyTurt (talk) 20:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)AbbeyTurt
 * Hi Abbey, while I'd love to help you, I'm currently full! Please choose a different ambassador from the list. And by the way, you left this message for my just perfectly. Do it exactly this way again. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 08:22, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello Noraft,

My name is Fabiola Lara and I am a sophomore at Syracuse University studying International Relations and French. I am currently enrolled in the course, part of the Public Policy Initiative, Transnational NGOs in World Affairs and I would really appreciate it if you could guide and mentor me in editing the article on Primary Education. Growing up with a mother who has been an educator for 20 years, I always knew the importance of education that first started with building a strong foundation in early education. I am exceedingly passionate about the subject and am looking forward to researching and improving the article! Thank you and I will look forward to hearing from you very soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falara (talk • contribs) 02:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Aww, I'd love to help, but I'm currently full, and can barely handle the mentees I have. Sorry! ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 03:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

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 * I was not aware. Been busy in real life. Well, I'd say previously awarded W's should stay awarded, and the rules should altered to require FL's and FS's... What do you think?  ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 01:55, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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Online mentor
Greetings Noraft, I wanted to ask if you would be an online mentor for me as I write an article for wikipedia as part of a graduate Environmental law class. The project will go for the next 6 weeks and is part of the public policy initiative at wikipedia. I am a graduate student at the Univ of San Francisco and will be choosing a topic of environmental law to add or edit on wikipedia. I am excited about researching a case / issue and contributing to wikipedia but am a little overwhelmed at all the code and impending barage of editing pens that may slash and burn my efforts.

I imagine I may need help setting up the page and maybe formatting. here is a link to our class page Spring_2011/Environmental_Law. hmm tried to link - hope it worked...

Please let me know if you have time, we are just getting started picking topics and I will be working with a campus ambassador as well.

Thanks for any feedback. Gbfalcone (talk) 22:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi! I'd love to help, but I've got a couple mentees now, and can't really take more on at this time. Sorry! ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 01:55, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

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Amy Roth (Research Analyst, Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 20:43, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Daphne Oseña-Paez
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, regarding that article, there are a few odd revisions of Qingdao in its history. I presume those were copy&pasted and can be deleted? Or should I move everything prior to back to your sandbox?  Amalthea  12:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, that's a general sandbox page I use to prep articles for mainspace. You can delete anything in the article history that does not pertain to the subject, no need to move it back to my sandbox, thanks. I'll be more careful next time so that it isn't so messy. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 16:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. I did move them back to your sandbox after all, leaving them there deleted might have them get in the way with future history merges or some such. Thanks & Cheers, Amalthea  19:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE elections
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GOCE drive invitation
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Ambassador Program: assessment drive
Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.

In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.

Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:28, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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RH Bill
Thanks for your efforts to clean up that article. It's a mess, but I don't even know where to start. Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 16:33, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Its an issue that's important to me, and I want to see it represented fairly, without all the bias. I think the best place to start is by attacking bad references. The RS Noticeboard came out and said that National Perfidy was not a reliable source, so I think we need to put something on the talk page referencing that and stating that repeated inclusion is edit-warring or something. There are other poor sources as well. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 00:21, 8 August 2011 (UTC)