User talk:Norcioflatline

Speedy deletion of Norcio
A tag has been placed on Norcio requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Non-dropframe (talk) 17:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia, because it has been identified as an account used for promotion of a company or group, with a username that implies that this has been done by that company or group. See Business' FAQ and Conflict of interest.

This kind of activity is considered spamming and is forbidden by Wikipedia policies. In addition, the use of a username like yours violates our username policy.

You may appeal this block by adding the text  or emailing the administrator who blocked you. Your reason should include your response to this issue and a new username you wish to adopt that does not violate our username policy (specifically, understand that accounts are for individuals, not companies or groups, and that your username should reflect this). Usernames that have already been taken are listed here.

You should carefully read the notability criteria, and decide:
 * Does this band meet the notability criteria?
 * If they don't... do you still want an active account, or was this the only subject you were interested in writing about? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:06, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Norcio may or may not be ready for a Wikipedia article. But I can say that the article you posted was blatantly inappropriate.  Wikipedia articles must conform to a neutral point of view and language like "sexy riffs" and "awesome rhythm section" can only be viewed as promotional.  Furthermore, it looks like you copied an interview from a magazine or something, which violates copyright rules.  Yup, here's the original: .  If you want to try to create an article on this group that conforms to Wikipedia standards, it may be reasonable.  What you would need to do is: (1) assemble all the reliable sources you can about the band, and then write an article with completely new text, based on that information, from a neutral point of view.  Use the "show preview" button instead of posting the article prematurely.  Can you agree to approach it this way?  If so I think an unblock would be reasonable.  Mango juice talk 13:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello. What you could do is email me a copy of that article, and let me neutralise it. Thank you, Mr. SvMvP (talk) 17:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

The article might be a steaming pile of crap, or it might be a Featured Article in the making, who knows. However, I don't think indef blocking this guy at this point is the right thing to do. -- Ned Scott 06:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Indef doesn't mean forever. Right now it means that he is blocked until he responds to the comments and shows that he understands. Templarion (talk) 14:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm very concerned that your only interest seems to be promoting this one band, since Wikipedia is not a forum for advertising. I'm also concerned because I wasn't able to find much evidence that the band meets the notability criteria; there's not even an entry on them at allmusic. If this is your own band, or friends of yours, you really ought not to be writing about them. You have said that the band meets the criteria and that you have sources, but you haven't said what specific part of the notability criteria the band meets, nor have you presented any sources. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

That would be why I asked if I needed to provide the sources here. When I first put the information up there I wasn't even done with it. I'm not trying to promote or advertise, but merely trying to tell their story. Norcio is becoming a part of the louisiana culture and expressing their lifestyles and unique music. And there is only so many sites out there. You can't expect to be on all of them. here is some articles and links. http://www.reverbnation.com/norcio. http://www.myspace.com/norcio. http://www.thetenthritual.com/?content=lineup. http://www.thetenthritual.com/?em1=1933_-1__0_~0_-1_10_2008_0_0&content=artist_info. (Louisiana State University Newspaper Front page) http://tigerweekly.com/. http://tigerweekly.com/article/10-22-2008/9531. http://tigerweekly.com/article/10-08-2008/9398. (Baton Rouge Community College Newspaper article) http://a875.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/97/l_05e8544d96775bf9a84a3f5920c6c63a.jpg. http://blog.nola.com/nsmusic/2008/10/norcio_starts_it_with_a_bang_a.html#post.

Fuse TV was also at the Voodoo Music Experience and will be aired 10-27-08. Norcio will have a profile on Fuse TV.

Norcio meets the notability criteria for 1,7, and 10.
 * Those sources do confirm that Norcio performed at the Voodoo Music Experience. I am not convinced, however, that performing at that particular event, by itself, makes a band notable.  Several of those links come directly from the band, and thus are not 'independent'; several others are college newspapers, and not 'nontrivial.'  The only source on your list that would meet the reliable sources criteria is Tiger Weekly, which describes Norcia as a local band that has not yet been signed by a record label or attained critical attention; it's described by that source as a band that may one day become notable.  In my opinion, the sources you've presented do not clearly demonstrate notability.  I remain concerned that your username and contributions are consistent of those with a person with a conflict of interest, such as a member of the band or a friend or family member of a band member.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

First of all two of the links came from the band. the others are newspaper and other publishing websites. Not from the band. "A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:"    It does not say you have to be signed by a major label to be meet the requirements. Just any one of them. Norcio has meet three of the requirements so far. And No. I am not a member of the band. I am simply a loyal and dedicated fan that wants to see their favorite band on wikipedia so other people can learn more about what they do and who they are. Ya'll let so many stupid and pointless articles get put up, but when a band who isn't signed by a major label and has such a large and dedicated fan base trys to get put up here ya'll deny it. Its music. Its not about advertising. How about you try listening to the band.
 * Listening to the band would not give any useful information about notability. I actually did listen to them, a bit, on their MySpace page, and didn't care for them, but that has nothing to do with the claim to notability.  You claim that this band has met criteria 1, 7, and 10.  One says that the band has been the subject of multiple independent non-trivial works; I've already explained why I don't feel this is the case.  In my opinion, the sources you've offered do not meet the standard of 'nontrivial.'  7 says 'Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city,' but that doesn't appear to be the case for this band, or if it is, your sources don't support the claim.  10 says 'Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album, etc,' but I don't see any of the sources claiming that, either.  You said that the band will be appearing on television in the future, but that doesn't seem to have happened yet.   This appears, from the sources, to be a band which may one day become notable, but not a band which is already notable.  In addition, please note that you do not need to open more unblock requests; you still have an unblock request open. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * This conversation ought to not be happening while the user is blocked. Norcio -- I believe your username is no problem, since you aren't affiliated with the band, but just a fan.  However, this band, if notable, seems to be clearly a borderline case.  So I am willing to unblock you if you agree to (1) not post another copyright violation, (2) to put any new drafts in your userspace initially, and (3) to go through the deletion review process when you are ready to try it.  (I can help with the technical details.)  Mango juice talk 12:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)