User talk:Norden1990/Archive 12

President of Brazil
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New working group
Dear and ! I've created a sub-page under my userpage: User:Norden1990/Identification of Hungarian royalty. We hope that this will be the basis of a successful article that all three of us can work on. Feel free to edit. We can discuss all important things on the talk page belonging to this sub-page. We can freely discuss in Hungarian, since it is a non-public talk page. If you know editor(s) who might be interested in this project, feel free to include them in the work. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:30, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Ciz Ispán
Hello again

Do you happen to have any more information on the Ispan called Ciz during the time of Stephen II?

Kind regards

~ Gibby01 (talk) 17:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi . His name is mentioned by the Illuminated Chronicle only. He was killed during the Byzantine–Hungarian War (1127–1129). His office is unknown. Historian Gyula Pauler identified his name with the Slavic-sounding Chys or Chyz ("Csiz"), which name relatively frequently appears within the Bogátradvány clan of Bohemian origin. There were also locations called Chys in Gömör and Csongrád counties (Gy. Pauler: A magyar nemzet története az Árpád-házi királyok alatt Vol. 1. page 475). --Norden1990 (talk) 20:03, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I found an old book that connects it to Turkic çiz, siz "to draw, cut, engrave", and claims the original form of the name was was Csize or Csizi, "painful", but that name isn't recorded in any Turkic context elsewhere. A Slavic connection sounds much more logical in that case. Reference: TURUL A Magyar Heraldikai és Genealógiai Társaság Közlöny, FEJÉRPATAKY LÁSZLÓ
 * This book should be available online, I've noticed there are multiple books but not all of them deal with etymologies. Unfortunately I've never found anything about Velek though.
 * PS: Do you also know if the Szálok genus claimed descend from Tonuzoba? Anonymous mentions this was the name of Ösbő's son. The wiki article on Tonuzoba says clan Szálok descends from him and the Szálok genus wiki claims the first known ancestor of the clan was called Baja, but both are unsourced. Gibby01 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Beside Anonymus, members of the Szalók clan first appeared in contemporary records only in the last decades of the 13th century. So their origin is very unclear. I'am not sure about their connection with Tonuzoba, who – as historians agree – was ancestor of the Tomaj clan of Pecheneg origin. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:34, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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Byzantine–Hungarian War (1180–1185)
Hi Norden1990. You've added the short form reference "B. Nagy 2013" to Byzantine–Hungarian War (1180–1185), but that work isn't defined in the article. It's seems unlikely but you did mean "B. Szabó 2013"? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 12:53, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, fixed. Thank you very much! --Norden1990 (talk) 18:57, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you very much! --Norden1990 (talk) 21:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:VeressLajos.jpg
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Coat of arms
Hi Norden1990! Could you give me advice? I am updating this article: List of Hungarian monarchs. I am not sure the coat of arms of Peter Orseolo and Samuel Aba, I know they are usually on the family tree of the Arpad dynasty. What is your opinion? What would be the correct? Or it is ok what I did? OrionNimrod (talk) 09:44, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hm. I think your version is OK, because both of them are considered rulers from the Árpád dynasty. In Wikimedia Commons, you can find coat-of-arms of the Aba kindred and the House of Orseolo, but including them in the list I think exhausts the concept of WP:OR. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! OrionNimrod (talk) 13:35, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

List of Papal Tithes
Hi Norden1990! I created this: List of Papal Tithes from 1332–1337 in the Kingdom of Hungary I provided a lot of sources, could you help me what missing? Thank you!

"The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline." OrionNimrod (talk) 18:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Wow! Great article! --Norden1990 (talk) 19:17, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Cumans
Hi Norden1990!

Could you help me? This user denies the the Kuns would relate to Cumans: 1

Even the Pechenegs on the list who also died out much eralier. OrionNimrod (talk) 12:14, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Removing Hungarian related contents and strange modifications on Hungarian related articles
Hi Norden1990! An user started removing Hungarian related contents and strange modifications on Hungarian related articles:

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hungary OrionNimrod (talk) 14:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Domonkos II, Archbishop of Esztergom
Szia! A fenti cikkben forrásként a Beke-féle Esztergomi érsekek c. könyvet adtad meg. Pont most tartok ott, hogy nézegetem ezt a könyvet, milyen további információkat tartalmaz Domonkosról, de pont hogy nem tartalmaz róla semmit: az 1012 és 1046 közötti időszakról nincs benne szó, sőt, e két sarokdátum előtti és utáni érsekek elődjéről és utódjáról sincs említés. Tudom, hogy több mint tíz éves a cikk, mégis arra kérlek próbálj visszaemlékezni: biztos vagy-e ebben a forrásban, és ha igen, vajon hol, hányadik oldalon találtad az említést? (480 oldalas a könyv.) Megmondom őszintén azért kérdem, mert lehet, hogy nem is létezett ez a személy, legalábbis a mai források erre engednek következtetni. Amelyek szerint létezett, azok nagyon régi, meghaladott források, kivéve a Beke-könyvet, de abban meg én nem találom. Kösz előre is Pallor (talk) 09:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * U. i.: Itt összegeztem a kételyeimet, és gyűjtöttem össze a forrásokat. Szia! Pallor (talk) 10:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you very much for you recent two positive edits on Zipser Willkür! All the best and keep up the good work on the respective article! Happy editing here on Wikipedia as well! Rosenborg BK Fan (talk) 16:36, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

György Budaházy's pardone
Hi Norden1990! You forgot to write György Budaházy's page, to write the pardoned thing. Katalin Novák is pardoned György Budaházy, and his comrades, and they are released from the prison. You can take the source, on the Telex, or the Index website. That's all, have nice day! --86.101.125.180 (talk) 17:15, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Baky Albert
Szia. Köszi a szép szavaidat. Azért írok, mert elkészítettem a Psiki ütközet szócikkét, és találtam egy jó képet hozzá: Baky Albert 1896-ban készült festményét a csatáról. A gond ott van, hogy ha felteszem a wikimédiára, hogy felhasználhassam a cikk illusztrációjaként, biztosan le fogják venni, ahogy már több hasonló képet is leszedtek, amelyet feltöltöttem. Mert az interneten sehol sem található egy olyan online forrás, amely igazolná, hogy 1896-ban készült. Én találtam egy 2013-as könyvet, amelyben illusztrációként benne van, és írja alatta: "A piski csata: 1849 február 9. Baky Albert festménye, 1896" A könyv: Nagy csaták 15. Hermann Róbert: A magyar önvédelmi háború 1848-1849, 76 o. De ha felteszem, mint forrás, akkor azt mondják, hogy a könyv 2013-as. Tehát van-e valamilyen lehetőség, hogy ezt a kitűnő képet feltegyem, de ne szedjék le? Kár lenne érte.

--Sylvain1975 (talk) 13:52, 01 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , persze, hiszen ezt a forrást kell megadnod. Oldalszámmal együtt nem lesz gond. Baky Albert egyébiránt 1944-ben meghalt, így minden festménye közkincs, mert 70+ éve halott, így lényegtelen, hogy mikor festette azt a képet. Bár az USA-ban más törvények vonatkoznak, az tény. Viszont ha a megadott forrás explicite mondja, hogy 1896-ban festették a képet, akkor vitának helye nincs. Ha törlésre jelölik, szólj, majd segítek érvelni. --Norden1990 (talk) 19:13, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Köszi szépen. Egyébként megtaláltam a magyar történelmi múzeum oldalán, és azt adtam meg forrásnak. Sylvain1975 (talk) 19:56, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

POV
Hello. I was discouraged when I saw this edit of yours despite the clear neutrality problem in the article. I please ask some good faith and for comprehension for the other side. I don't like seeing only Hungarian sources discussing crucial aspects of the history of Romania and neither would you, understandably, if the case was reverse. Super  Ψ   Dro  20:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Lampert
Szia! A Thuróczy krónikában vak Bélánál ez a cím van: (magyar fordításban és a Latin szövegben is) "MÁSODIK VAK BÉLA URALKODÁSA. Ő ÁLMOS HERCEG FIA, LAMPÉRT UNOKÁJA, ELSŐ BÉLA KIRÁLY DÉDUNOKÁJA" Szerinted hibásan van ez írva a krónikában, mert ugye Álmos Géza fia hivatalosan és nem Lampérté. Mit gondolsz? OrionNimrod (talk) 11:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , Thuróczi itt tévedett. Az Anjou-korig ő nem igazán releváns forrás, hiszen más munkákat vonatolt ki (többek között a Képes Krónikát). A KK egyértelműen leírja, hogy Álmos Géza herceg fia volt. --Norden1990 (talk) 20:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Koszi a valaszt! OrionNimrod (talk) 14:33, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Battle of Cibakháza
Szia! Elkészítettem a cibakházai ütközetről szóló szócikket, erre előáll valaki, hogy nincs benne lábjegyzet, pedig majdnem minden mondat után odatettem. Lehet, hogy az zavarta, hogy két munkát használtam fel. Mit tegyek, ha csak két munka ír erről részletesen? Azokat kellett idéznem. Nem idézhettem olyant, amely nem ír róla... Sylvain1975 (talk) 15:33, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Töröltem a jelzést, Csikány műve az egyetlen monográfia a témában. Csak így tovább! --Norden1990 (talk) 19:53, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Epithoma
Hi Norden1990! I really do not understand why in every source Epithoma rerum Hungaricarum this work has different names, you can check the marked sources on the article, all academic and use different names:

Epithoma rerum Hungaricarum

Epithoma rerum Hungararum

Epithoma rerum Hungarorum

Epithoma rerum Ungaricarum

Do you know any solution?

OrionNimrod (talk) 09:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I do not know. Perhaps because these titles are post-issues by publishers, archivists, etc. --Norden1990 (talk) 10:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I found some write Epithoma, some Epitome, some Epitoma, what would be the main title? The corvina one? https://corvina.hu/en/corvina/virtual-corvinas/codlat249-en/

"Epitome rerum Hungaricarum" or the easier "Epithoma rerum Hungarorum"? OrionNimrod (talk) 11:05, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the current title of the article is OK. You can create redirects with the other frequent titles. --Norden1990 (talk) 11:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

, in order to avoid WP:Overlinking, it is sufficient to wikilink the appearing proper names at their first appearance. Although I know that the article is not ready yet, I think it is definitely worth addressing the geographical aspects of the chronicle, as it is a very valuable source in this respect, much more valuable than its historical part. A preface study of the Hungarian-language version contains clever analysis. --Norden1990 (talk) 16:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the feedback! I have read that analysis. Could you write that geographical section in the article? OrionNimrod (talk) 16:16, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I made a draft already Draft:Rerum Hungaricarum Decades OrionNimrod (talk) 17:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think "decades" with little "d" is more grammatically correct. --Norden1990 (talk) 18:04, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, first I was thinking about the English always capital title, then I see this is Latin text with tilted font. OrionNimrod (talk) 18:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * , There is a map in the aforementioned Hungarian-language version, which contains which settlements Ranzano mentions (and where he places them). It might be worth considering making a map for Wikipedia based on this. --Norden1990 (talk) 18:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the cooperation, great job! OrionNimrod (talk) 15:14, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

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King Charles II
Hi @Norden1990

Charles III of Naples, he is called "short", but in Hungarian it would be proper to use the "little" word, I also see in the Latin translation is "little" from "paruus" what is in the picture

File:Nádasdy Mausoleum - II. Károly király.jpg

What do you think? OrionNimrod (talk) 11:00, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hm, I am uncertain. In The Realm of St Stephen: A History of Medieval Hungary, 895–1526., the epithet "the Small" is used. It is necessary to see which version is the most common in monographs in English. --Norden1990 (talk) 19:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I can see the "small" translation below 2 times: Charles III of Naples OrionNimrod (talk) 11:25, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Mátyás
Szia!

Mátyás osztrák főhercegi dátumára te tudsz jó forrást? Többet látok.

Matthias Corvinus Itt 1487-

https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._Mátyás_magyar_király itt 1486- "Ausztria uralkodó főhercege 1486-tól haláláig."

List of rulers of Austria itt: "1485-1490: Matthias Corvinus, king of Hungary, occupied the proper Duchies of Austria and Styria, claimed the title Archduke of Austria."

OrionNimrod (talk) 11:27, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * A Mátyásról szóló cikk tartalmazza az infót. "Matthias assumed the title of Duke of Austria at the Diet of the Lower Austrian Estates in Ebenfurth in 1487." Kubinyi 2008, p. 103. --Norden1990 (talk) 20:13, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Szabados
Frankly, I'm very disappointed to see that you're giving the benefit of doubt to someone who peddles the "double conquest" pseudohistory. Szabados is obviously a very biased "historian", which is why he was employed by Orban. The fact that you believe that people are "political" and "biased" for pointing this out, is just pure projection on your part. Azure94 (talk) 14:52, 31 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Azure94 about the bias.
 * You added this content here: then marked this source:  Well I contacted with the author, Kocsis Károly. He provided me the source  he said he did not say that thing in that source what you put in the article, he said that is true for the pre-Trianon Hungary and not for the postwar Hungary. So please follow your advice what you provided me "Be more careful next time" Talk:Gesta Hungarorum
 * However the double standard is certain, in some cases your personal pov is more important for you than the academic sources (just Wikipedia is not a personal bog) I see you are not so carefully when you deliberately refuse the usage of the language of 30+ academic sources (several authors from several countries) and even you refuse to use the language of your favorite political blogger Balogh in this case: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hungary. Well at least I used sources from many kind of historians as I am not political biased as you.
 * I am very disappointed that you harrass Hungarian editors and you make a witch hunt against academic Hungarian historians. You know that always the actual Hungarian government give the payslip for all Hungarian employee (more than million of people, all employed personally by Orban :D), schools, universities, institutes, kindergardens, hospitals, railways, municipalities, factories, churches, etc etc... and in all country is same.
 * I bet you did not read the works of Szabados at all. I would be very interesting which content by Szabados here Emese is not good? Please talk about the content not about the person. OrionNimrod (talk) 15:15, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Images
Hi Norden1990,

One of my reason was to collect all chronicle images together for the future usage (I still plan to buy a book to upload better images)

So we can easier copy paste them to the articles.

Chronicon Pictum

Chronica Hungarorum OrionNimrod (talk) 20:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Michael I of Wallachia
Sorry, Norden1990, I thought it was NeimWiki again putting back the image. Gyalu22 (talk) 10:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem. Cheers, --Norden1990 (talk) 10:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Battle of Nicopolis
Hi! Do you have modern Hungarian historian sources about this battle? I am interesting in the numbers of armies, casualties. Thanks! OrionNimrod (talk) 14:47, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * . You can find studies regarding the subject here. --Norden1990 (talk) 18:42, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! OrionNimrod (talk) 20:42, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Norden1990! Do you have source about the Hungarian custom to carry the bloody sword through the country when the king call of duty to go to war? OrionNimrod (talk) 11:23, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Battle checking
Hi! Could you check the newly created article? Talk:Battle of Tahtalu

Is the provided Islamic encyclopedia is reliable or not? (written by users like Wiki?)

Because an article written by an user which claim the 14 years old King Matthias of Hungary attacked an Ottoman area deep in Serbia with 50,000 solders against Mehmed II and lost. But I do not find anything about this in Hungarian sources, I suppose it should be any mention of this high scale royal campaign if it was real.

Do you know anything about this? OrionNimrod (talk) 18:42, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * İslâm Ansiklopedisi is a reliable academic source. I never heard of this battle (which is not surprising, because I am not an expert on the era). You can check the 1458–59 events here: . Currently, Tamás Pálosfalvi is the most significant expert of the 15th-century Hungary and the Hungarian–Ottoman wars, so I recommend to study his publications. --Norden1990 (talk) 19:29, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Very useful!
 * I found the gathering military and Matthias was in Nandorfehervar, however the Turkish source say different event than the Hungarian one. I start to collect them on the talk page. OrionNimrod (talk) 19:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

copy editing
Szia, a tegnap fejeztem be az egyik újabb cikkemet az 1848-49-es csatákról, ütközetekről. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Het%C3%A9ny-Kurtakeszi-Izsa Erre előállt egy kotnyeleskedő, hogy sok benne a "grammar, style, cohesion, tone, or spelling" hiba. Át tudnád nézni és kijavítani, vagy ismersz valakit, aki ezt meg tudná csinálni? Köszi. Sylvain1975 (talk) 11:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ha lesz időm, ránézek. Első ránézésére nekem nem tűnik indokoltnak a kihelyezett sablon, de sajnos az én angolom sem perfekt. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

User page
Szia!

Hogyan tudok oldalakat csinálni a saját nevem alatt, mint ahogy te szoktad: (pl Norden/Gesta)? A draft oldalaimat ide raknám addig míg nincsenek készen. OrionNimrod (talk) 14:20, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Egyszerűen csak mozgasd át a kívánt elnevezéssel. --Norden1990 (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Szia! Talán ismered, lehet hasznos lehet: http://epa.oszk.hu/00500/00595/00022/pdf/EPA00595_Egyutt_2007_2_73-79.pdf OrionNimrod (talk) 21:09, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Köszi. Nem ismertem. Ez egy jó összefoglaló ehhez a zűrzavaros témához. Az ősgeszta után majd akarok írni a 14. sz-i krónikakompozícióról (illetve az azt megelőző budai minorita krónikáról). --Norden1990 (talk) 21:46, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Talaltam egy jo osszefoglalot muvekrol szerzokrol, olyanok is vannak akiket nem ismertem. http://www.galamus.hu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=41444:sovargott-joev-a-mult-tuekreben&catid=68:cssandorklara&Itemid=105
 * Majd a Kepes kronika cikket bovitenem ki mint a Ransanus kronikat es elkezdtem a vazlatat Bonfini kronikajanak is aztan tervezem Heltai kronikajat is. OrionNimrod (talk) 22:37, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ez megvan neked? Ezt is tervezem majd megcsinalni.
 * Tarih-i Üngürüs: Veszprémy 2019
 * OrionNimrod (talk) 22:42, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * A Tarih-i Üngürüs nekem megvan, az 1982-es legelső magyar fordítás (Magvető). A Hazai György-féle kritikai kiadás (1996, 2009) a legjobb, de az kb. beszerezhetetlen (könyvtárban talán megvan). Sok a tévhit és az áltudományos vonulat a mű körül. Szerintem itt szó sincs az őgesztáról, hanem valóban a Thuróczy-krónika egy kissé editált és nagyvonalú török fordításáról van szó. De majd az Urgesta-cikkben erről írok egy-két bekezdésben, mert fontos.
 * Más: szerintem érdemes lenne majd külön szedni a Budai krónikát és a Thuróczy-krónikát (jelenleg egy cikk tárgyalja). Az előbbi a 14. századi krónikakompozíció tagja, utóbbi egy különálló alkotás. A kompozíciót illetően akarok majd írni egy teljes listát, melyik kódexek melyik családba tartoznak bele. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:57, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Én is gondolkodtam már azon hogy ketté kellene vágni a cikket, csak még korábban olyan szűk volt a Budai krónika rész amit kibővítettem. Igen látom a krónika családokat. Viszont az meg zavaró hogy mindkettő neve Chronica Hungarorum. Talán át kéne írni és két cikket csinálni Buda Chronicle és Thuroczy Chronicle (magyarul ez az elterjedt név)? Bár a Chronica Hungarorum az elterjedt angolul és talán ez a név többet is mond, vagy a Thuroczyra meghagyni ezt mint főnév és a Budaira mint másodlagos név említve? OrionNimrod (talk) 09:38, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Igen, inkább az utóbbival értek egyet. A Thuróczy-krónika ismertebb és történetileg értékesebb krónika (a budai krónika jelentősége csak annyiban áll, hogy a legelső kinyomtatott könyv Magyarországon). --Norden1990 (talk) 12:15, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Az oldala végülis megvan https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Buda_Chronicle&redirect=no OrionNimrod (talk) 12:34, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Kemény

 * Used to source his resignation from the Hungarian Olympic Committee in 1907:
 * Used to source his nomination of Franz Joseph I for the Nobel Peace Prize:
 * Used as an external link:

I can tell from an OpenLibrary search that many more freely-avalable, quality sources are available. Good luck! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:08, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Gesta
Congratulation! You did again a great job a great article! Urgesta OrionNimrod (talk) 21:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you!--Norden1990 (talk) 10:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Geréb family has been nominated for deletion
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Byzantine–Hungarian War (1149–1155)

 * Thank you very much! --Norden1990 (talk) 10:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem; I've marked several subsections with quotefarm because they have lengthy quotations that don't provide much context to the article. I also think the lead should be expanded to summarize the article. Anyway, good luck with the article and cheers,  Baffle☿gab  03:51, 25 October 2023 (UTC).

Category:Bocskai family has been nominated for merging
Category:Bocskai family has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Dobokai family has been nominated for merging
Category:Dobokai family has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:55, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Semsey family has been nominated for deletion
Category:Semsey family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:01, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Herceg family has been nominated for merging
Category:Herceg family has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:31, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Losonci family has been nominated for deletion
Category:Losonci family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Himfi family has been nominated for deletion
Category:Himfi family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Bánfi family has been nominated for deletion
Category:Bánfi family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:47, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Lorántffy family has been nominated for deletion
Category:Lorántffy family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:19, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Dersffy family has been nominated for deletion
Category:Dersffy family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

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